Huge project, few questions

Raknarg · **Posted:** Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:23 pm

You're already on a better start than most people ever will, imho.

Nathan4102 · **Posted:** Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:30 pm

Better start at what?

Raknarg · **Posted:** Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:36 pm

just the learning process in general, and your extent of knowledge. As far as I know.

Nathan4102 · **Posted:** Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:41 pm

Oh, well thanks, I guess. I don't think I'm doing any better than normal though. In fact, I feel I'm at a huge disadvantage to most since the only languages I know are dead/useless. Logic/knowledge is no good without a way to express it.

Just got an android phone though, so I'm hopefully gonna get into app development in Java, assuming this plan doesn't get put aside like all my other plans to learn Java :p

Raknarg · **Posted:** Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:46 pm

everything I've learned from Turing has passed into Java as well. It may be annoying not beingable to express it, but it carries over quite easily.

You're grade 10 right? No one expects you to be amazing right now. I'm just saying you seem to be at a strong starting point

Raknarg · **Posted:** Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:49 pm

btw @chris, you just blew my mind, the Input.KeyDown stuff makes sense now.

Nathan4102 · **Posted:** Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:56 pm

Oh well thats good to know. I was expecting the transition from Turing to the OOP world of Java to be quite challenging.

Yeah, grade 10 last year, grade 11 this September. Thanks for the compliments, you don't seem too bad either. Wink

Raknarg · **Posted:** Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:59 pm

Turing can be pretty OOP, if you let it become that way. You just need to learn how classes work is all.

Well I am going to university for it, so I'd hope i'm at least somewhat competent Razz

and I just like to see students with real potential, who wants to learn, I don't get to see it all the time. I thinks its a good thing to see in any discipline, really.

Nathan4102 · **Posted:** Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:14 pm

Turing can be OOP? It might be a good idea to learn the concept of OOP here then... Hmm.....

And I agree with you. Even if you're naturally good, you're only going to be able to go so far without a willingness to learn.

Raknarg · **Posted:** Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:18 pm

mhm. Do you know how classes work in java at all? Because if you do, it's more or less the same concept inn turing with some syntax differences.

Nathan4102 · **Posted:** Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:25 pm

Nope, I know next to nothing about classes. I read a bit about them a while back, but I just couldn't wrap my head around it.

Raknarg · **Posted:** Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:27 pm

You could look at the Turing Walkthrough. Alternatively I could try my hand.. tomorrow

Nathan4102 · **Posted:** Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:33 pm

I'll give it a read in the morning, getting pretty late now. Ill let ya know how it goes.

chrisbrown · **Posted:** Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:35 pm

@Raknarg: The fun doesn't have to stop there. Look up indexType in the Turing documentation if you're interested. I was playing around for a bit and came up with a quick demo of the usefulness of Turing's range capabilities.

Turing:

setscreen("text")

for i : char
%put i
end for
put "-----"

for i : boolean
put i
end for
put "-----"

type CustomIntRange : 2 .. 10
for i : CustomIntRange by 2
put i
end for
put "-----"

type CustomCharRange : 'a' .. 'e'
for i : CustomCharRange
put i
end for
put "-----"

var a : array CustomCharRange of int := init(5, 4, 3, 2, 1)
for i : CustomCharRange
put i, " ", a(i)
end for
put "-----"

Raknarg · **Posted:** Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:46 pm

do other languages do this at all?

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