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				|  Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 7:50 pm    Post subject: Is ANYONE gonna post here? |  |   
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				| man its been a week since theres been a single vb help post, is every one pro or smthn? |  
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				|  Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 10:53 pm    Post subject: (No subject) |  |   
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				| haha  yeah   
 actually I think its just me and homer here
  Reason being there're other much larger VB forums out there  compsci.ca is still relativly new |  
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:12 pm    Post subject: (No subject) |  |   
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				| hehe yeah... and there's only been 2 programs posted other than mine... |  
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:19 pm    Post subject: (No subject) |  |   
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				| I think it has to do with the curriculum taught in the province. I know that I teach VB at the gr10 level. The vast majority of them are not looking to go "above and beyond" they are happy if their programs work. I know that a lot of schools don't even touch VB. |  
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 1:54 pm    Post subject: (No subject) |  |   
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				| my school has the whole microsoft visual studio on ALL their computers...yet they teach turing, to everyone....although they may teach java next year, although i highly doubt it |  
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:19 pm    Post subject: (No subject) |  |   
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				| Grade 10 = Logic and Turing Grade 11 = Advanced Turing , Binary writing
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:27 pm    Post subject: (No subject) |  |   
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				| while we are on the topic.. is there anything important taught in the gr11 course that is needed for the gr12.. i'm thinking of skipping to java  |  
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 4:27 pm    Post subject: (No subject) |  |   
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				| WEll java is really different , and if your willing to jsut learn some at home or teach yourself , you should be fine , most people who take grade 12 do really well , there to ones who actually were good at 10 & 11 , it will be no walk in the park , but if you lok carefully your school would probably pay for you to take your sun certification at hte end of the corse , its suposedly one of the hardest certifications to get but once you have it , it would look awsome on any resume |  
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:33 pm    Post subject: (No subject) |  |   
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				| im in gr eleven and i am just finishing a java course in which i have done well. last year we did turing and i found that the ppl who were taught turing last yesr did better in java than those who didnt take turing -in gr 12 visual C++
 personally, i am interested in vb and that is one reason im posting...
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:29 pm    Post subject: (No subject) |  |   
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				| my teacher just said that i'm way ahead of the class and that it'll take some time, but i could easily manage it. i'm just trying to see if i should go for it or not.. |  
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:59 pm    Post subject: (No subject) |  |   
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				| don't even think of skipping java, since it's THE language 8) I think all first year CS uni courses are in Java  |  
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				|  Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:26 am    Post subject: (No subject) |  |   
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				| man... i hate java! i wish they'd teach c++ in 12  |  
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				|  Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 8:44 am    Post subject: (No subject) |  |   
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				| As this VB topic evolves into a VC++ vs Java debate perhaps this is a good place to bounce my ideas off people. I've been teaching C in gr12 and C++ in OAC for years. With the loss of OAC I've dropped the ANSI-C and went straight to C++. As Tony points out Java is used in quite a few Universities and it is gaining support in the workplace. I'm planning on teaching Java next year for gr12. Homer - why do you hate Java?
 Tony - why do you love it?
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				|  Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 10:06 am    Post subject: (No subject) |  |   
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				| I have no problem learning java next year , what rocks is my school pays for any first try of certification , i get a shot at the A+ next year at the end of grade 12 engineering , I thnk java is pretty useful , but im not sure if il keep it up well it really depends what the university of ontario will teaches ( Where i would like to go ) , i think that they Do C++ , ohh and on ht er site the do Java aswell, so really both of those languages are useful |  
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				|  Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 10:07 am    Post subject: (No subject) |  |   
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				| Someone should move this to general discussion and change the name to something else , so people can see what they will belearing in the future and what its like , |  
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