Shoes Help:

[TokenHerbz]

So I've been learning ruby, and now getting into shoes. I'm just wondering if the ruby help forums would be the correct spot to ask questions about shoes since it does use ruby type code, since i cant find a dedicated "shoes" help forum. Unless directed otherwise, maybe its fine here? just wanted to ask before the questions come.... thanks! (p.s. if its the right spot, any ruby related GUI/gem/etc questions good to post here?)

[Tony]

Around here, this is probably the best place to post. Although personally I have not had much experience with Shoes, so will likely not be able to help with Shoes-specific questions.

[TokenHerbz]

Well another random question i have is, Is it possible to create my own application windows with RUBY? because in turing i made alot of custom class's to use as the structure of the programming language, and im sure i could set the basics of lines and dots and box's with ruby to draw onto this application window.

i'm not sure where to start about it. ideas tony?

shoes kinda ugly looking and imo, is more application uses web/charts/grids/etc.

[Sur_real]

I don't know much about ruby but I think Lifehacker did a recent article on it http://lifehacker.com/5719091/hackety-hack-teaches-ruby-programming-to-aspiring-beginners-for-free where they talked about Hackety Hack (http://hackety-hack.com/)

I don't know, maybe you try there as a start

[Tony]

I don't really have many ideas. I've been using Ruby for command-line scripts and web-applications. Which is where its strength is.

You could also try Appcelerator Titanium to turn Ruby (or Python, JavaScript)/HTML/CSS web apps into native desktop (or mobile) apps. I haven't tried this either, although I've been meaning to for a while.

[TokenHerbz]

I hope its what i'm looking for, i want turings type platform for ruby's power. I got into this language for its power in OOP which "can" be used for games. i just need graphics with it, ill take a look into it tho tony, thanks.

[TokenHerbz]

I been playing in Shoes for a bit, I don't like it. Any other recommendations or ...am i stuck with it for graphical things in ruby.

or maybe is there another language "like ruby" (as in pure OOP/ straight to the point type coding, that supports the use of a GUI (like turing) so i can get right into apps and stuff.

I never tried rails or web apps, but would i beable to make games on those things?! I figured it would be more charty type a dealeo..

[Tony]

What kind of games are you looking to make? In most cases you'd need to pick up on a bunch of JavaScript for client-side.

[TokenHerbz]

to start could be just the basic one player games.

pong/worms/graphical little RPG, then get into a basic 2player over net game, perhaps 2 player pong, etc.

[Tony]

So you want the games to run client-side. Rails is for server-side web applications.

I've looked some more into Titanium. You can run Ruby code that's glued with JavaScript for all the rendering (and input) and a custom API for UI.

[TokenHerbz]

javascript and ruby can be mixed up?

[Tony]

This is the example I've seen
http://developer.appcelerator.com/doc/desktop/ruby

code:

<script type="text/ruby">   def my_ruby_function(l)     n = 0     l.each { |i| n+=i }     return n   end </script>   <script>   alert(my_ruby_function([1, 2, 3, 4])); </script>

Titanium uses something called Kroll to build the bridge between the two languages (object translation and message passing). As far as I can tell, it might be their own thing.