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 Sprites do not show up/Games that use sprites don't work?
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Taz




PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:59 pm   Post subject: Sprites do not show up/Games that use sprites don't work?

I've just started learning Turing a few weeks ago in school, found out it was possible to make a game with it, and ended up here eventually.

See, it just so happened me and a friend both had the sudden urge to get into the world of game development. So with our hopes set on creating a simple 2D mech-type game, we set out..

And I got stuck.

First I decided I should just learn C++. Then I was told Python would work fine for me. Then I started to consider how much easier it'd make my life if I learned Turing for the game, considering I already have a class for it.

Went ahead and learned some basics, though I'm still struggling along. [I can make a 200x200 window open up, count from 10 to 0 and close itself!]

Tonight I decided to try sinking my teeth into basic movement, and sprites. Tired as I was, I found myself avoiding movement and going onto Sprites. Then I got stuck.

See, at first I just couldn't get any output. No sprite image or anything. I even downloaded some guy's game and tried running it, but it simply wouldn't play past the title. So I browsed around some more and found out Sprites don't work in Turing 4.0.5. [Which I had.] So I downloaded 4.1.1 and nothing changed.

Games that require sprites simply aren't working, and I'm not sure why. I'd give more information, but that's really all I know about the problem.

What I'd like to get out of posting this would be...

1. Finding out why Sprites aren't existing for me, and how to make 'em work.
2. Opinion towards whether or not I should stick with Turing to output a simple 2D side-scrolling mech game. [I've sort of a Megaman type thing in mind. Mech with a simple gun, simple sword, random enemies. I don't want to get ahead of myself, but that's what I plan to make at the least.]

I can't imagine myself not using Sprites for what I plan to make..So this is sort of depressing.

Thanks in advance! [Also The Turing Tutorial is a lot of help. Just wanted to get that out there.]
 
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Clayton




PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:09 am   Post subject: RE:Sprites do not show up/Games that use sprites don\'t work?

It would help if you posted some code of what you were trying to run. What kind of errors were you getting (if any)? This kind of information helps greatly when it comes to helping you.
 
S_Grimm




PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:20 am   Post subject: RE:Sprites do not show up/Games that use sprites don\'t work?

Clayton's right. also, turing is REALLY limited in what you can do with it. I suggest java or C++ or VB
 
Clayton




PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:05 am   Post subject: RE:Sprites do not show up/Games that use sprites don\'t work?

That is not really all that true at all A/V. You can do some pretty neat things with Turing, you just need to put the time and effort into it.
 
S_Grimm




PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:26 am   Post subject: RE:Sprites do not show up/Games that use sprites don\'t work?

but it is a big headache to DO anything good in it... not that java is much better, but it is still useful in the real world.
 
Taz




PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:02 pm   Post subject: RE:Sprites do not show up/Games that use sprites don\'t work?

http://compsci.ca/v3/viewtopic.php?t=18876&postdays=0&postorder=asc

http://compsci.ca/v3/viewtopic.php?t=4598&highlight=sprite

The above contain codes regarding sprites, which output nothing for me. [Of course, I changed the name of the picture to the name of the sprite I wanted to use, in the same folder.]

The file RUNS, but I just end up looking at a blank screen.

Also, a game someone made somewhere on here wouldn't work either. I just remember you could choose between Cloud or Sephiroth, then a screen of a road with a sign that said "Village" or something would appear, and nothing would happen. Also, after looking at the files in the folder, the image of the sign should've had some more details to it that weren't there. Couldn't find the file, though. Think it was called MMORPG1/2 or something.

Also, I did try to learn Python from random tutorials I found, but it just didn't work out at all, and I kept getting confused because I had just begun learning Turing. It was a really bad tutorial IMO.

If I were to learn C++ or another language, would there be decent tutorials for beginnings here that would help me along, like the Turing one? [I wonder why I don't just check myself. It's only about 5 clicks away.]
 
S_Grimm




PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:46 am   Post subject: RE:Sprites do not show up/Games that use sprites don\'t work?

try going to the library and borowwing "Sams Teach yourself C++ in 25 minutes"
 
Insectoid




PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:20 am   Post subject: RE:Sprites do not show up/Games that use sprites don\'t work?

Quote:


Also, I did try to learn Python from random tutorials I found, but it just didn't work out at all, and I kept getting confused because I had just begun learning Turing. It was a really bad tutorial IMO.


I don't think it was a bad tutorial, but a tutorial for people with previous programming experience looking to learn another language.
 
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Taz




PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:38 am   Post subject: Re: RE:Sprites do not show up/Games that use sprites don\'t work?

insectoid @ Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:20 am wrote:
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Also, I did try to learn Python from random tutorials I found, but it just didn't work out at all, and I kept getting confused because I had just begun learning Turing. It was a really bad tutorial IMO.


I don't think it was a bad tutorial, but a tutorial for people with previous programming experience looking to learn another language.


You're entirely right, actually. I was gonna mention it, but figured it was unnecessary.

Still no idea why sprites don't work for me, but I am miles ahead of my class.

I sort of feel bad for the people next to me who still don't quite understand things like why Turing won't add the equations that are inside the quotations.

Example;

put "1 + 4 is equal to 1 + 4"

Now that's quite obviously not going to give you anything, and I'm sure they'd realize how silly it is if it looked that simple, but I guess when you're using different variables and such, they just don't absorb it, and when I tell them how it works, they just change that single error to be right and never remember it. Argh.

Friendly people, but jeeze... Neutral
 
Insectoid




PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:43 am   Post subject: RE:Sprites do not show up/Games that use sprites don\'t work?

I feel the same. Last year, my teacher actually abandoned the class and made me help people. I had no time to work on my own project(s).
 
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