Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject: IsoBeta
Hey, everyone... here's a glimpse of what I'm working on for my Compsci Summative. I'm using VB, not T***** of course, for all those who dis VB over T***** should try to this in T*****, with smooth playability.
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wtd
Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 5:56 pm Post subject: (No subject)
Coming from Turing, VB is going to probably seem decent. If you actually like VB, though, then you need to a wider variety of experience.
VB6 or VB.NET?
TheXploder
Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 6:13 pm Post subject: (No subject)
What do they learn in the US in compsci class, I don't think they use Turing...
This is with VB6, well if my school would be VB.Net compatible I would use that...
wtd
Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject: (No subject)
TheXploder wrote:
What do they learn in the US in compsci class, I don't think they use Turing...
This is with VB6, well if my school would be VB.Net compatible I would use that...
Many high schools use Java. Some probably still use Pascal. There might also be some using C++.
I wouldn't use any of them for an intro class.
[Gandalf]
Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 9:37 pm Post subject: (No subject)
Shouldn't this be in the VB section? or general programming at least?
I was talking to this guy in one of my class' - and trying to get him into programming, and he mentioned knowing logo .
Hikaru79
Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 9:38 pm Post subject: Re: IsoBeta
TheXploder wrote:
I'm using VB, not T***** of course, for all those who dis VB over T***** should try to this in T*****, with smooth playability.
If I still had my minor dice project from last year, I would post it. It was pretty much the same as what I can tell from your single screenshot, but in Turing. Also, my friend Gennie did an RPG for her FINAL project which looked quite similar.
It can definetly be done, especially if you're familiar with Turing's object-oriented features.
md
Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 9:57 pm Post subject: (No subject)
wtd wrote:
TheXploder wrote:
What do they learn in the US in compsci class, I don't think they use Turing...
This is with VB6, well if my school would be VB.Net compatible I would use that...
Many high schools use Java. Some probably still use Pascal. There might also be some using C++.
I wouldn't use any of them for an intro class.
What's wrong with pascal for learning? I'd say it's a great language for learning to program, and if you get some kind of basic graphics routines then you can do some nifty things there as well as cool algorythms!
wtd
Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 9:59 pm Post subject: (No subject)
Cornflake wrote:
wtd wrote:
TheXploder wrote:
What do they learn in the US in compsci class, I don't think they use Turing...
This is with VB6, well if my school would be VB.Net compatible I would use that...
Many high schools use Java. Some probably still use Pascal. There might also be some using C++.
I wouldn't use any of them for an intro class.
What's wrong with pascal for learning? I'd say it's a great language for learning to program, and if you get some kind of basic graphics routines then you can do some nifty things there as well as cool algorythms!
It's decent, and a few years ago I would have agreed with you, but the benefits of interactive interpretation for education can't be underestimated.
And yes, there are languages with interactive interpreters and strong, static type systems.
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TheXploder
Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: IsoBeta
Hikaru79 wrote:
TheXploder wrote:
I'm using VB, not T***** of course, for all those who dis VB over T***** should try to this in T*****, with smooth playability.
If I still had my minor dice project from last year, I would post it. It was pretty much the same as what I can tell from your single screenshot, but in Turing. Also, my friend Gennie did an RPG for her FINAL project which looked quite similar.
It can definetly be done, especially if you're familiar with Turing's object-oriented features.
I did this in T***** before, but it was really slow... With a simple 10x10 plane.. and just some walls, I posted it a while. But in VB this is a 19x19 plane and runs much smother. What do you mean by Dice project?
Mazer
Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 11:01 pm Post subject: (No subject)
TheXploder: you do realise you're allowed to say "Turing" right? We won't flame you or ban or account for that, seriously.
Turing isn't as weak graphically, as you seem to think. Unless you're doing some intense AI or physics calculations or HDRI lighting there, it looks like Turing could handle it.
Hikaru79 was referring to the old Massey computer science tradition of making a game involving dice (or at least, a focus on some random numbers) for a project in the middle of the year. I don't know if they do it any more, but mine was Dungeon Dice from Yugioh.
Hikaru79
Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 1:12 am Post subject: (No subject)
Coutsos wrote:
Hikaru79 was referring to the old Massey computer science tradition of making a game involving dice (or at least, a focus on some random numbers) for a project in the middle of the year. I don't know if they do it any more, but mine was Dungeon Dice from Yugioh.
Woah, sic! Dungeon Dice Monsters, I've never played it, but it always looked interesting in the anime ^_^; What an original idea, I just ended up doing a turn-based RPG like 95% of my class Do you happen to still have this around? It'd be fun to play!
zylum
Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 4:00 pm Post subject: (No subject)
the only reason turing wouldnt run as smooth is because of picMerge... since isometric games need picMerge, they will run slower on turing. if you made a normal 2d rpg then there wouldnt be a problem.
md
Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 8:00 pm Post subject: (No subject)
infact since VB has interfaces to directX, you could use hardware acceleration in VB which is not possible to use in turing, thus making VB very much faster. However, VB and turing are both poor choices as C, C++, pascal, or even C# and VB.NET all provide those same interfaces except with much better execution speeds.
wtd
Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 3:44 am Post subject: (No subject)
Cornflake wrote:
infact since VB has interfaces to directX, you could use hardware acceleration in VB which is not possible to use in turing, thus making VB very much faster. However, VB and turing are both poor choices as C, C++, pascal, or even C# and VB.NET all provide those same interfaces except with much better execution speeds.
And indeed, many languages are themselves implemented in C, meaning it's relatively straightforward to write a wrapper around the native libraries.
You might write:
code:
some_char.move(10, 20)
some_char.draw
In Ruby, for instance, and the message is sent via Ruby, but the internal changes happen in native code.
Paul
Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:23 am Post subject: (No subject)
From what I've seen of his game, its not turn based, its real time.