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Martin




PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:29 pm   Post subject: Modulos i

Let i be the number such that i * i = -1

Let ~ mean 'is congruent to'

i * i ~ -1 (mod 10)

i * i ~ 9 (mod 10)

.: i ~ 3 (mod 10)

Is there any flaw to this logic?
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Tony




PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:03 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

yes, where did you get i * i ~ 9 from?
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Martin




PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:23 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Congruence.html
Tony




PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:32 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

eh, too much reading...

in short - you're wrong
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Andy




PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:34 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

couldnt u two just fite at home? instead of here? *sigh* its kinda getting old...
Martin




PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:51 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

Ignore Tony. Does anyone have an answer to my question? More generically:

i ~ k (mod k^2 + 1) for all k in N.
Martin




PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:49 am   Post subject: (No subject)

*** not posted by martin***

since i^2 is -1 (as a complex number), using your logic the root of -1 = 3 mod 10.

me thinks you have an error in your logic

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md




PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:05 am   Post subject: (No subject)

the above was me in case anyone is confused...

anyway, after further consideration, the proof is definitly wrong since any two numbers multiplyed together are always greater than or equal to 0 (in the reals), since the assumption is wrong, it follows that the rest of the solution is also wrong

therefore, martin, your wrong.

[edit] martin seems to be unsure about wether or not we're talking about the complex or real numbers...
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Tony




PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:22 am   Post subject: (No subject)

Cornflake wrote:
therefore, martin, your wrong.

tony wrote:
in short - you're wrong

Just what I said in the beginning Laughing
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bugzpodder




PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:45 am   Post subject: (No subject)

actually, those identities are not the point of finding a congruence eqn for i. Consider equations such as:

x^2+y^2=0 (mod 25), x,y are positive integers

then we can use first factor:

(x+yi)(x-yi)=0 (mod 25), since i=7 (mod 25)
then we get:
(x+7y)(x-7y)=0 (mod 25)
etc...
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