wtd, what do u use for programming??

[dsantamassino]

hi wtd,

What programming languages u know?? What do u do?? r u a programmer?? Is coding different from programming but requires a knowledge of programming?? Do u have skills in building an full size kernel from group up including building the source code for the kernel?? Do u have the skills in building an advanced OS that is not command line and get windows applications to recognize?? Do u have the skills in all of that?? What do u have skills in??

[Dan]

dsantamassino, i have a question for you........have you ever hured of the PM system?

[dsantamassino]

Hacker Dan wrote:

dsantamassino, i have a question for you........have you ever hured of the PM system?

thats a joke. Of course but very lazy. lol. yea i go hit it right now.

[wtd]

Oh, what the heck... other people might have been wondering the same.

Programming languages I know, eh?

• Ruby
  
• Python
  
• Perl
  
• O'Caml
  
• C
  
• C++
  
• Objective-C
  
• D
  
• Java
  
• Javascript
  
• Pascal
  
• Eiffel
  
• Pike
  
• SQL
  
• HTML/XHTML

What do I do?

I'm an independent computer consultant. I offer advice on home and small business computing, and provide guidance in implementing systems in these realms.

This means I do a little of everything.

I am an open source software advocate, and a fan of Apple computers.

"Coding"?

Programmers write source code. Source code is a form of computer language that's readable by humans. It gets translated into a language the processor itself can understand, called machine language.

The "code" in the above is where we get the term "coding".

However, much more goes into programming than just coding. Coding is the mechanical part of the process. For projects of any size, much more time should be given to analyzing the problem and planning how you're going to solve it. Once you figure this out, writing the code is easy.

Building an OS?

Sorry. I don't have the skills or the desire to tackle such a problem.

What do I know?

I know a great deal, and more importantly, I know how to go about learning more. I know my own capabilities, and I know my own limits.

I know how to break problems down to make them easier to tackle.

I know how to size up someone's needs and desires regarding computing and deliver an ideal solution within a given budget.

[dsantamassino]

wtd wrote:

Oh, what the heck... other people might have been wondering the same.

Programming languages I know, eh?

• Ruby
  
• Python
  
• Perl
  
• O'Caml
  
• C
  
• C++
  
• Objective-C
  
• D
  
• Java
  
• Javascript
  
• Pascal
  
• Eiffel
  
• Pike
  
• SQL
  
• HTML/XHTML

What do I do?

I'm an independent computer consultant. I offer advice on home and small business computing, and provide guidance in implementing systems in these realms.

This means I do a little of everything.

I am an open source software advocate, and a fan of Apple computers.

"Coding"?

Programmers write source code. Source code is a form of computer language that's readable by humans. It gets translated into a language the processor itself can understand, called machine language.

The "code" in the above is where we get the term "coding".

However, much more goes into programming than just coding. Coding is the mechanical part of the process. For projects of any size, much more time should be given to analyzing the problem and planning how you're going to solve it. Once you figure this out, writing the code is easy.

Building an OS?

Sorry. I don't have the skills or the desire to tackle such a problem.

What do I know?

I know a great deal, and more importantly, I know how to go about learning more. I know my own capabilities, and I know my own limits.

I know how to break problems down to make them easier to tackle.

I know how to size up someone's needs and desires regarding computing and deliver an ideal solution within a given budget.

Ok. So basically you can get me up to programming and after that im on my own finding someone to help me write an OS and build a kernel?? Is that the deal??

[wtd]

It'll be a long time before you're that good.

But you can always look and get an idea of what you're asking about.

http://www.inglorion.net/documents/tutorials/x86ostut/getting_started/

[Neo]

You know all those languages but not turing??
How do you even remember all the commands for all of them?!?

[wtd]

Until I came here and decided to help out, I had no reason to use Turing. I have enough knowledge of it to help from time to time, now.

And I have a lot of practice, whichhelps me remember a lot of the details of those languages, but mostly I know how to look for information I can't remember.

Remember this: you're better off learning to use reference material than trying to memorize everything.

[Hikaru79]

Eh, he knows Turing. Probably just forgot to list it. But he's got tutorials in the Turing forum, and he helps people from there and stuff.

EDIT: Oops. Too late, you already answered ^ ^;;

[dsantamassino]

wtd wrote:

It'll be a long time before you're that good.

But you can always look and get an idea of what you're asking about.

http://www.inglorion.net/documents/tutorials/x86ostut/getting_started/

Yeah i want to write source code for the hell of it.

[JHanson90]

wtd wrote:

Programming languages I know, eh?

• Ruby
  
• Python
  
• Perl
  
• O'Caml
  
• C
  
• C++
  
• Objective-C
  
• D
  
• Java
  
• Javascript
  
• Pascal
  
• Eiffel
  
• Pike
  
• SQL
  
• HTML/XHTML

Two questions: (1) What is Pike? (2) How long does it take for you to learn most languages (most meaning languages that aren't as complex as C++ or a few others)?

EDIT: Another question; do you always make sure that your HTML or XHTML is totally standards compliant? How easy is it? I tried to, and found that I had to use CSS for like everything.

If I may take a guess, I would say that you like Ruby the best. When asked what the best and most powerful programming languages there are, the very first one in your list was Ruby, and also in this list here of all that you know. Am I right?

[Martin]

From my experience, the language that takes the longest to learn is the first one that you learn. After that, you know the methods, just not the syntax, and it's much easier to learn syntax than to learn a new concept.

Right now, I'd say that I only *know* 3 languages, namely C++, Java and Turing. The next on my list to learn is ActionScript 2.

[wtd]

JHanson90 wrote:

Two questions: (1) What is Pike? (2) How long does it take for you to learn most languages (most meaning languages that aren't as complex as C++ or a few others)?

Pike is an object-oriented language with a C-like syntax. It's most commonly used as a scripting language for Roxen's web server software.

It varies, depending on how "rich" the syntax is, and how much it differs ideologically. One of the hardest for me to learn was O'Caml, as it embraces a functional paradigm.

JHanson90 wrote:

EDIT: Another question; do you always make sure that your HTML or XHTML is totally standards compliant? How easy is it? I tried to, and found that I had to use CSS for like everything.

Honestly, I try to, but if a client isn't paying me all that much, or makes it clear that they don't care, I usually don't take the time.

JHanson90 wrote:

If I may take a guess, I would say that you like Ruby the best. When asked what the best and most powerful programming languages there are, the very first one in your list was Ruby, and also in this list here of all that you know. Am I right?

Ruby is up there, but I enjoy a lot of languages. I enjoy the ideological purity of Ruby and Eiffel. I like the power of O'Caml and C++. It really depends on what mood I'm in and what I'm doing.

[dsantamassino]

wtd wrote:

Oh, what the heck... other people might have been wondering the same.

Programming languages I know, eh?

• Ruby
  
• Python
  
• Perl
  
• O'Caml
  
• C
  
• C++
  
• Objective-C
  
• D
  
• Java
  
• Javascript
  
• Pascal
  
• Eiffel
  
• Pike
  
• SQL
  
• HTML/XHTML

from the above list. I want to learn the following.

Python
Perl
O'Caml
C++
C
Objective-C
Java
Javascript
Pascal
Pike
SQL
HTML
XHTML

and others u havent named i want to learn will be below

CSS
PHP
Assembly.

What do I do?

I'm an independent computer consultant. I offer advice on home and small business computing, and provide guidance in implementing systems in these realms.

This means I do a little of everything.

I am an open source software advocate, and a fan of Apple computers.

"Coding"?

Programmers write source code. Source code is a form of computer language that's readable by humans. It gets translated into a language the processor itself can understand, called machine language.

The "code" in the above is where we get the term "coding".

However, much more goes into programming than just coding. Coding is the mechanical part of the process. For projects of any size, much more time should be given to analyzing the problem and planning how you're going to solve it. Once you figure this out, writing the code is easy.

Building an OS?

Sorry. I don't have the skills or the desire to tackle such a problem.

What do I know?

I know a great deal, and more importantly, I know how to go about learning more. I know my own capabilities, and I know my own limits.

I know how to break problems down to make them easier to tackle.

I know how to size up someone's needs and desires regarding computing and deliver an ideal solution within a given budget.

[dsantamassino]

sorry but dont know how to quote well or how to quote part of a reply.