Ecoo 2009

saltpro15 · **Posted:** Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:21 pm

alright, no problems then, we can use Turing for those

Analysis Mode · **Posted:** Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:47 pm

how come ECOO requires competitors to know graphics? (i.e. what is the reason behind including graphics as part of the material that one needs to know)

saltpro15 · **Posted:** Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:49 pm

ex Q1 "draw a smiley face in Turing, it should include 2 eyes, some form of nose and a mouth"

lol just kidding, I actually have no idea Very Happy

Analysis Mode · **Posted:** Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:53 pm

yeah it's peculiar, I don't know of any other contests that require you to know graphics.

DanielG · **Posted:** Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:52 am

an example question from last year was to draw lines on a grid between two points (moving only up/down and left/right) between two pairs of points. It uses the graphics to check your pathfinding as well as obviously, your ability to draw the paths.

McKenzie · **Posted:** Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:34 am

I don't know of any other contest that requires graphics either but ECOO is a different for a number of reasons. Most contests are judged by machines where they compare your output with a text file, it would be a pain to try to mark graphics in this format. With ECOO, the answers are checked by real people so it is possible to have graphics checked.

I hear a lot of complaints about the fact that graphics are on the ECOO contest. Usually it surrounds around how much of a pain graphics are in C/C++/Java as upposed to Turing. Many people feel that if they have gone through the pain of learning a "better" language it should always help them. The truth is every language has advantages and disadvantages (e.g. C++ STL, Python eval, Java Geometry ....) As far as ECOO is concerned Turing's easy graphics is an obvious advantage.

The truth of why graphics are on ECOO is that the problem setter finds the problems interesting and fun.

saltpro15 · **Posted:** Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:58 am

graphics are possible in C++, I agree with you that they are a pain though Sad

it's almost as if they want you to use Turing... Wink

A.J · **Posted:** Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:11 pm

saltpro15 wrote:

graphics are possible in C++, I agree with you that they are a pain though ( it's almost as if they want you to use Turing... Wink

I know....its funny how that works Neutral

Regardless, I like the ECOO problems, as they are quite interesting. Ad Hoc problems can be quite fun, actually, as they don't require you to just implement a specific algorithm.

Analysis Mode · **Posted:** Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:50 pm

MAckenzie you teach at MAssey right? Do you run the ECOO contest? Do you head the "problem-setter committee"?

Analysis Mode · **Posted:** Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:50 pm

and is PAscal allowed at ECOO (i.e. for graphics)?

McKenzie · **Posted:** Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:10 pm

Yes to all of the above.
Massey, ECOO, Pascal. This is my first year being involved with the problem-setting.

phleet · **Posted:** Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:58 pm

In terms of C++, look up the allegro game library. This is what our team used last year for regionals. It's a simple method of generating 2D graphics.

saltpro15 · **Posted:** Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:31 pm

McKenzie, where is Massey? and can I transfer? :p
and @ phleet, thanks Smile

but we will probably use Turing anyway

A.J · **Posted:** Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:57 pm

saltpro15 wrote:

McKenzie, where is Massey? and can I transfer? p
and @ phleet, thanks ) but we will probably use Turing anyway

Vincent Massey is a school in Windsor. And it is Mr. McKenzie to you Laughing

saltpro15 · **Posted:** Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:58 pm

cool, and oops Razz

sry Mr.McKenzie, I'm used to calling people by their username's

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