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VB3CK




PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:23 pm   Post subject: Jobs [good paying]

Is their jobs in comp science world which pays you over 75k(75 000 a year)
(In Canada or U.S)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:28 pm   Post subject: RE:Jobs [good paying]

Yes.

To answer the question you were really wanting to ask, the answer is "yes, but you're going to have to do a fair bit of work first". A lot of those jobs are probably in managing teams of developers, not actually writing the code yourself. Some are in administration (database, server, network) as well.

The better question is whether or not you enjoy computer science, because if you don't, the chances are slim that you'll get anywhere near the 75k mark, and you'll hate your life while you're doing it. Don't make a career decision based on it being "high earning" - not just because you won't enjoy it, but also because high-earning fields can become low-earning while you're still in school.
VB3CK




PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:33 pm   Post subject: RE:Jobs [good paying]

Ah Thanks for the quick reply.
So according to your post only Administration jobs get payed 75k or more..
Thanks for the answer
~VBC3K
jbking




PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:37 pm   Post subject: Re: Jobs [good paying]

I'll second that they do exist, S.i. Systems has more than a few of these jobs on their site, though some are contract positions, they still do have good pay. 75k a year is about $37.50/hour, for those wanting to see an hourly figure. Most of them require at least a handful of years experience in their fields which can vary a bit around the Software Development Life Cycle like project managers, business analysts, etc.

I am assuming you are talking about gross salaries as opposed net salaries, please correct me if that isn't the case.[/url]
Vermette




PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:38 pm   Post subject: RE:Jobs [good paying]

He did not say "only Administration jobs". I personally know some network admins that pull 70k before benefits. One fellow I know managed to get a lot of overtime approved and got above 100k some time back.

Another thing you have to consider though is the average salary for that type of work in the area you live. $70k salaries in Silicon Valley put you in a lower standard of living than making the same amount of money in say, Thunder Bay.
Tony




PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:45 pm   Post subject: RE:Jobs [good paying]

Having the right set of skills, experience, and opportunity could net one up to, perhaps, $120K, before hitting the "go into management to earn more" wall. Though this is the high-end of the bellcurve.

I would expect a good developer to pull in 75K.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:48 pm   Post subject: RE:Jobs [good paying]

can't edit my last post for some reason: that should say junior network admins.
btiffin




PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:18 pm   Post subject: Re: Jobs [good paying]

Old guy ramble
Just so ya know; and I don't work there full-time anymore, but when I contract to the big corporation it's $800+ a day.

The highest per diem I ever pulled was $1500 for an emergency call that took 15 minutes to fix (plus the hour to get there and the hour back).

This isn't management; this is coding and two decades of domain expertise. For this, either stick it out and become an expert (10,000 hours) at something/anything, find a niche, or get in with the big iron boys (having demonstrated the skills).

Oh, and don't screw with your security rating. Live a life that can be analyzed by the RCMP and still afford you Secret or Top Secret clearance. And some advice; that doesn't necessarily mean a "church" life, it is more a life without lies. Get in trouble; fess up. That is more important to the people that may need to trust you some day. But it does exclude writing underground "cracks"; even though it may make you look smart, it bones your chance at clearance. If you do feel the need to write cracks, or troll the chatlines for cracker warez, be open about it the whole way through and perhaps apply to a security analysis firm before starting so you have plausible explanations for the activity. Security specialists, CSIS and the RCMP are not dumb and they can find the rarest of traces of underground activity, years after the fact.

And to be honest, I prefer a more reasonable remuneration; $20 an hour is all well and good money.

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VB3CK




PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:55 pm   Post subject: RE:Jobs [good paying]

so how much years does it take to earn that much money? (50 000)
Tony




PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:07 pm   Post subject: RE:Jobs [good paying]

That depends more of how good you are and where you are working. Some co-op students get paid at 50K/year rate while in school. This whole "years of experience" deal is more for HR staff to discriminated against.
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btiffin




PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:52 pm   Post subject: RE:Jobs [good paying]

Tony is right VB3CK; That all depends are where you are and what you do.

If you get a Jr Programmer position with a Jr Programmer mindset, expect it to take awhile. If you get that same job with a positive attitude, some skills and some ethics, you may find yourself with a raise and new duties within 4 months.

If you expect to eek out 4% a year increases and "stay with the herd", well ...

Cheers
jernst




PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:45 am   Post subject: Re: Jobs [good paying]

while i've been going to school ive worked alot of crappy jobs to make ends meat (bar, tim hortons, warehouse etc.). Compared to all of those jobs, I would be happy doing any type of programming, research or whatever else related...even for terrible pay.
VB3CK




PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:47 pm   Post subject: Re: RE:Jobs [good paying]

btiffin @ Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:52 pm wrote:
Tony is right VB3CK; That all depends are where you are and what you do.

If you get a Jr Programmer position with a Jr Programmer mindset, expect it to take awhile. If you get that same job with a positive attitude, some skills and some ethics, you may find yourself with a raise and new duties within 4 months.

If you expect to eek out 4% a year increases and "stay with the herd", well ...

Cheers


Interesting read..
Attitude+Skills+Experince=$
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:15 pm   Post subject: Re: RE:Jobs [good paying]

VB3CK @ Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:47 pm wrote:


Interesting read..
Attitude+Skills+Experince=$


You really did not see that coming?
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