Visual C++ 2008

[joaomello]

Hi all?!
Visual C++ 2008, is good? It use netFrame (programs will need to have netFrame)?
Visual C++ 6, is better?

Has better IDE for C++?

Sorry my stupid questions, but I'm starting at C++

Mello.

[syntax_error]

if your just starting, why pay for an IDE? Also, are you really going to start using netFrames as a beginner lesson? I think not. Get some free one that will meet the basic needs:

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--> debugger
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--> complier
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--> syntax highlighter
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--> [extra] project management


and such your just starting out, my best bet would be use a text editor such as notepad++ and cmd.

that is all you need.

[petree08]

does any one know where to download a c++ builder?

[apomb]

here

[wtd]

You'll need to learn the difference between a compiler and an integrated development environment first if you have any hope of becoming a decent programmer.

[petree08]

thanks for the link
+ bits

[joaomello]

thanks!
I only asked ;p
Builder C++ is good? ;p
xD

[apomb]

builder C++ is only "good" if you know what it does, and how to use it

[btiffin]

If you want a nice free C++ environment, get cygwin at http://www.cygwin.com/ and install the base. If it looks good, then setup.exe install gcc, binutils, gdb and make; plus any others, like ctags.

GNU does make for a pretty nice dev env.

Cheers

[rdrake]

As suggested above, learning the difference between a compiler and IDE is most important.

Afterwards you can get Visual C++ Express 2008 for free, despite popular belief.

[joaomello]

so... dev c++ will be good for me?!

thanks all!

[apomb]

joaomello @ Wed May 28, 2008 8:26 am wrote:

so... dev c++ will be good for me?!

thanks all!

again, only if you know how to use it effectively.

Using an IDE is NOT neccesary when writing C++ programs. In fact, wtd made a very good point that IDEs usually get in the way of new programmers actually learning a language.

so maybe before hesitating to write code because you cant find an IDE you like, try writing code in a text editor with a good syntax highlighter (in Windows, id suggest Notepad++. Linux text editor works perfectly) and then learning how to compile at the command line. its as simple as

code:

gcc -o <output file> <inputfile.cpp>

then

code:

./<output file>

[joaomello]

Understood!
Thanks!