Whoa! Cool . . .

[Zampano]

http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Home%20Page
Lojban on WIkipedia

Lobjan is a language created which limits ambiguities in the meanings of words. Though it is not a casual language anywhere, it has a small following of a a couple hundred follower.
I never knew something like this existed. Though you have all probably been made aware of this at some point in the past, I thought I'd bring it up here.
A discovery as interesting as this warrants at least a half-hearted attempt to learn the basics of the language from me and I hope from others.
Please share your thoughts.

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[StealthArcher]

Wiki link is broken, remove second http.

[Zampano]

Ironically, your informing me of the error makes it impossible to fix it, as replied to posts cannot be edited.

[StealthArcher]

Zampano @ Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:53 am wrote:

http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Home%20Page
Lojban on WIkipedia

Lobjan is a language created which limits ambiguities in the meanings of words. Though it is not a casual language anywhere, it has a small following of a a couple hundred follower.
I never knew something like this existed. Though you have all probably been made aware of this at some point in the past, I thought I'd bring it up here.
A discovery as interesting as this warrants at least a half-hearted attempt to learn the basics of the language from me and I hope from others.
Please share your thoughts.

There fixed, and weird.

[Tony]

Zampano @ Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:53 am wrote:

Lobjan is a language created which limits ambiguities in the meanings of words.

Wouldn't that hinder creativity? Flirting relies on the ambiguities in the meanings of words. And so are some other forms of creative expression.

[StealthArcher]

Exactly, just look at LOLCODE.

[Zampano]

Tony @ Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:06 pm wrote:

Zampano @ Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:53 am wrote:

Lobjan is a language created which limits ambiguities in the meanings of words.

Wouldn't that hinder creativity? Flirting relies on the ambiguities in the meanings of words. And so are some other forms of creative expression.

Sorry to bump a topic, but I'm not sure I explained it clearly enough.

As I understand it, when people try to express thoughts about ideas not known about much, they find themselves restrained by the fact that English or another language doesn't have words to describe the idea. That's why poetry often sounds like fgarbage. Either because the poet is writing about something trite, obvious, and redundant, or he has no means to make the words mean what he wants (consequently making it sound like crud). Lojban tries to eliminate this (I think) by making every word in the language unambiguous to the point that you can only mean one thing by any word. Somehow Lojban does this with relatively few words.
The main point is that Lojban helps creative expression by being more concise than other languages. Though it seems to be a contradiction that creative concepts can be expressed concisely, it makes a lot of sense once you stop thinking in the box that says 'art is the opposite of science'; if you stop thinking that way, you will realize 'there is no art, it is all science'. No idea cannot be expressed clearly as long as it is real idea applicable to our universe, because it must work in a precise manner to operate in our universe, and therfore must be explicable by words.