Ontario Election

[Dan]

The ontario election is today! If you are elibale to vote make shure to get to the polls today and cast a vote on both the election and refurened!

Polls open at 9am and close at 9pm, you need to bring your id. If you do not know where to vote go to http://elections.on.ca and use the "Where Do I Vote" featuer.

If you have not hured about the refurenedum question or do not understand it check out this site for more info: http://www.yourbigdecision.ca/en_ca/default.aspx



Don't throw away your power, VOTE!

[md]

For reference ID is a voter card, pasport, or other form of provincial or federal issue photo ID. A health card doesn't count.

Also, please vote for anyone who says they'll revoke the law that just came into effect on the 30th. It would really make my life oh so much better.

[Zampano]

What was that law?

[Ultrahex]

md can i guess speeding ticket for over 50km/hr and the following:

Quote:

The new initiatives, to begin September 30th, 2007 means police can charge drivers who are speeding more than 50 km/h over the posted limit with significantly stiffer penalties than they face now. These new penalties could include:



? An immediate, seven-day licence suspension and seven-day vehicle impoundment
? If convicted, a possible maximum fine of $10,000
? For a second conviction, within 10 years of the first, a possible court-ordered licence suspension of up to 10 years



So how many people could these new initiatives affect? According to the provincial government, on average, there are 2500 convictions for this extreme speeding ticket every year.

[Zampano]

md, if you were going that fast, your position looks very nearly indefensible.

[octopi]

I'm kind of mad about the changes to the blood alcohol limit.

If your pulled over and have a limit of 0.05-0.08 its a 3 day suspension of your license for the first offense, 7day + have to attend course for second offense, and for the third its a 30day, attend course again, and have to have a breathalizer installed in your car.

[Mazer]

For those of us who don't have experience with drinking [even a little] and driving, just how much would one need to drink in order to have a BAC of 0.05+? It doesn't seem crazy to me, but that's just because I don't drink if I'll be driving anyways so my point of view may well be skewed.

[octopi]

It depends on the person, but anywhere from 1-2 drinks can put you at 0.05, 2-3 is 0.08

BAC drops 0.01 for every 40minutes since the drink was drunken.




Also on a side note, I'm mildly retarded, Although I've voted before, I was a complete idiot when I was doing it today, and had no clue what I was doing, it made for quiet the laugh (in my head) the workers probably thought I was retarded.

[Tony]

I think I was trying to figure this out before - two coolers (8%) spaced over a period of 1 hour should place me at 0.08 BAC.

Although it's more than BAC alone - the absorption rate plays a lot as well. Depending on what you ate, sometimes I feel like I should not be driving even when I know I'm under the legal limit. Othertimes I feel fine even when I know I'm just over. Personally I play it safe and don't drink at all if I'm driving. Even though, having a breathalizer installed in your car for 0.05 seems kind of excessive.

[Naveg]

Well lets not exaggerate here. You get a breathalizer installed on the third offense. That means you got caught doing something like speeding three times with a near-illegal BAC. I think the idea is that if you're getting caught that often when you're under the limit, best make sure you aren't driving at all when you're over.

[md]

Zampano @ 2007-10-10, 2:46 pm wrote:

md, if you were going that fast, your position looks very nearly indefensible.

I don't think that means what you think it means. Unless you are saying that I can easily beat the charge. And no I wasn't going *that* fast, fast perhaps... but not enough that I should have been charged under the new law. The cop is simply an ass.

[octopi]

Naveg, you don't have to be speeding to be pulled over. I've been pulled over 4 times in my life so far, only one was for speeding. The other 3 times were for no apparent reason, they just asked me what I was doing etc.....

A cop actually asked me if I had the keys to the vehicle the one time, for some reason he thought I stole it...retarded cops...

Also its very easy to hit 150 while driving.....I've governed my blazer (about 162ish) without even realizing it on the way to school a few times. Although not recently (after my speeding ticket a year or so ago)

[Clayton]

octopi wrote:

I've governed my blazer....

Just a little excessive no? Also... 160 is the govern limit on your blazer? Seems comparatively low to me...

[octopi]

No, my point is that its not excessive. Sometimes the speed of traffic is 130+ in the middle lane, left lane faster, so its quite easy to get going too fast without knowing it.

[Naveg]

Laws aren't made to accommodate people. People have to make accommodations for laws. You're right, the speed of traffic is sometimes 130 in the middle lane, and even faster in the left lane. That's one of the reasons this law was created - to slow people down.