Timecube = Disproved
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lapo3399
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:38 pm Post subject: Timecube = Disproved |
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I recently saw the Timecube post from about a month ago, and after learning about the theory, I - apart from almost choking because of this man's apparent lack of any hint of actively firing neurons - instantly knew why it couldn't work. It relies on two concepts - calculus and the theory of relativity.
Note: Most of you have probably already assumed that this circus
freak is so idiotic that he makes George Bush look like Einstein. However, I ask that you let me, an uber math geek, work my magic... for it is what I do for fun. P.S. If you haven't visited his site yet, go there (www.timecube.com) and read at least 10 lines.
First of all: this man believes that the Earth has 4 distinctive time quadrants, each with it's own daily progression. For example, one quadrant may progress from midday to midday, or dawn to dawn, etc. I challenge this by stating, "Who decided that the Earth should be divided into 4 quadrants? Why not 6? Why not 830?"
His immediate answer (and anyone who has visited this nutjob's site can attest to this) would be "Because everything exists in opposites." (He would probably follow with "You heathen atheist I'm-going-to-rot-in-hell nonbeliever," but that does nothing to contribute to my argument (besides making him look like a moron), so let's continue)
I would then reply to him "But don't all pairs exhibit this 'double' behaviour? Since you've decided not to limit the term double to the number 2, why can't I use any even number to describe the number of time quadrants the Earth has?"
This logic is obvious. If I were to decide on a 24-Quadrant system, that would mean that the day, instead of being divided into sections like midnight-to-midnight, would be divided into periods of 'hour24-to-hour24."
Here his answer would be unclear. He might respond with a statement such as "God spoke to me." He might also intoduce another discriminative slur. Nonetheless, I would then altogether disprove to him the 'quadrant' system - assumign he can understand a little elementary calculus.
As aforementioned, the quadrant system should be able to utilize any even number of divisions. This applies to all even numbers up to infinity. To be most accurate, shouldn't all longitudinal degrees, minutes, and seconds (down to an infinitely small division of area) have their own quadrants? Wouldn't that make the most sense?
This can be represented by (possibly) the most simple calculus operation possible. If we represent the number of quadrants by y=x, where y is the number of divisions and x is any number such that x modulus 2 is 0, then take the limit of this equation as x approaches infinity, we arrive at the answer of "infinity."
Back to freako's 4-Quadrant system: why should a poor Assyrian farmer have to hang in limbo for 4 hours waiting for midday to arrive so that his body can start moving again because time has resumed!? How would he be expected to milk the goats?
In any case, the system we have arrived at is correct, because it accounts for every space on Earth. This means that every point on earth goes through it's own 24 hour cycle of rotation. There is no "beginning" or "end" to the earth's daily cycle. This not only disproves his theory of quadrants, but it also disproves his theory of dualism having to do with numbers (not that I don't believe in dualism... I believe in it on a physical level, not a philosophical one), because infinity is neither even nor odd. There is still a point opposite to any point on the globe, but the two locations don't have to be in specific quadrants to form a pair.
On to the theory of relativity. Einstein said almost exactly what I have just stated : everyone has their own "personal" clock. Time flows at a different rate for everyone and everything, depending on their state (i.e. change in location relative to something else). In my model of the earth, the theory of relativity holds true. I won't even begin to discuss the implications of psycho's model.
I hope you have understood my explanation. That isn't really what matters though. What matters is that Mr. Ray understands. So I can get the money.
Final Note: I am not in any way discrediting the Timezone system we have in place. The way I have described the Earth's time behaviour is correct, but I believe that it is absolutely necessary to use this system as a simplification. Do you realize what a pain in the ass it would be to keep time without it? |
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Dan
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject: (No subject) |
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Ummm, timecube is a joke like Flying Spaghetti Monsterisum.
If you look at his site for a few seconds you will see that it is, or at least one whould hope it is. Consdiering he blives that -1 x -1= +1 is wrong and a lie i realy don't think there is a need to try to dispove him and is why most adcmentics just ignore him out right.
Also if we realy where going to try to dispove it, you whould have to take in to acount all his claims incuding the 1 x -1= +1. Witch means the math system you are using in your disproof is not vaild to him. He basiclky has set it up so he can not be dispovien by claiming that math, sincens and all reasion is fake and made to brainwash us.
I think he is a fool, and that peoleop are just wasting time reading his site and thinking about it. But it is not my time so go nuts, peoleop blive crazyer more harmfull things.... |
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md
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:38 am Post subject: (No subject) |
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Give me my five minutes back. Both for that link and the rant. |
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Clayton
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject: (No subject) |
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you actually read the whole thing? you should be proud of yourself... lol
anyways, i agree completely with Dan, as soon as i saw that -1(-1) = -1 i just stopped reading, as i knew that there would be no point. |
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MysticVegeta
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:34 am Post subject: (No subject) |
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Hmm. he is really stupid. I dont get it. If all the mathmaticians used, -1 * -1 = 1, why the heck would he argue that? All the electronics and other circuits and whatnot are working because todays mathematics base is correct, otherwise they would cease to work, wouldnt they? I was actually laughing my ass off lol. And the font and stuff is really annoying. |
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md
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:47 am Post subject: (No subject) |
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MysticVegeta wrote: Hmm. he is really stupid. I dont get it. If all the mathmaticians used, -1 * -1 = 1, why the heck would he argue that? All the electronics and other circuits and whatnot are working because todays mathematics base is correct, otherwise they would cease to work, wouldnt they? I was actually laughing my ass off lol. And the font and stuff is really annoying.
Dude... old posts, stupid topic that is definitely not in need of being brought up again; why are you posting here?
That you even considered thinking about what the moron was saying on his oh so beautiful webpage shows a that you aren't much better then the genious who put that page together. Good job failing at life. |
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MysticVegeta
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: (No subject) |
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It was on the first page and only 10 days old... and considering all the people who posted in this thread are still here, I posted it. Sorry if I did anything wrong... I just dont see the point of me getting yelled at. I was just commenting on his ridiculous opinion, didnt really swear or anything...
"Good job failing in life"
man, cornflake, you have some temper issues man, no seriously, I have taken this long enough.
I am not even gonna bother replying after you call me a moron in the next post you post. man, try to chill... |
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Cervantes
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:37 pm Post subject: (No subject) |
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Haha, nice Cornflake.
MysticVegeta, realize that Cornflake is just the sort of guy who will wickedly insult someone who deserves a very small fraction of his wrath. It's kinda funny. Take it as a joke. |
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bugzpodder
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 1:45 pm Post subject: (No subject) |
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a friend of mine (TA) was trying for half an hour explaining to a 3rd year CS student here at waterloo why n^2 is always non-negative.
it only takes 3 seconds to decide that site is works of nutjub. Any sane person wont even bother to read more than 2 setentence of it.
while looking at some of the quantum stuff on the net, i found a paper that said multiplying two large primes give you a prime number. nuts. |
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