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				  Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 8:16 am    Post subject: VB Books  | 
	
				
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				Hello,
 
 
I have decided that Java will not work for me, it is by far my least favourite language and leanring it won't improve my programming skills because I have no interest. 
 
 
I have decided to go with VB.
 
 
I need a book that has great lessons on FSO and MSXML and converting them between each other. THe book also needs to have sections on Math from a text file before converting to XML.
 
 
I want a book rather than a website, because I prefer reading and learning in something I can grasp in my hands. Although if it is a really good website then I might use it. 
 
 
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				  Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 10:22 am    Post subject: (No subject)  | 
	
				
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				Totally not following you here. THe book also needs to have sections on Math from a text file before converting to XML. Huh?
 
 
What problems are you having with Java? | 
			 
			
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				  Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 10:45 am    Post subject: (No subject)  | 
	
				
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				| XML and Math? VB? You're better off going with C# instead. | 
			 
			
				 
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				  Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:18 pm    Post subject: (No subject)  | 
	
				
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				Tony wrote: You're better off going with C# instead. 
 
I predict he will find that "too similar" to Java and decide to not learn it.  It's interesting how he chose to go from something he finds crappy to something a whole lot of people find even more crappy. | 
			 
			
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				  Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:24 pm    Post subject: (No subject)  | 
	
				
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				| yeah, but C# and VB are virtually the same.. they both use the same API, and he picked that for some reason. | 
			 
			
				 
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				  Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 6:30 am    Post subject: (No subject)  | 
	
				
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				Well, if you really want to know why I picked VB over java, it for the quickest way to learn, because this is a school project that will be implemented next year when I am gone, I can't and won't come back to update the program, on top of that my compsci teacher know VB like the back of his hand which makes him a reference, something I need going into a new language. Maybe I am a little harsh with java, it just doesn't appeal to me, from the first time I tryed was in grade 11 with Ready, horrid mistake, got a 98 in the class but still not good choice. Then I tryed using other methods and form them slow and not well layed out. I perfer languages that are solid, which java is not, I know it is like C++ but it is more of a rip off to me. I also can't learn a whole language out right, I need to get the job done first, I will wait for college to get a better idea, right now RL is more important.
 
 
btw that math part was a mistake, when I read it over it sounds so stupid.
 
 
Edit: THe other reason why I am not going with java, is becasue as when I turned for help here, no one pointed me in a direction. THen I was reading tutorials on XML at W3schools an they state that Vb is better with xml and text file conversion. | 
			 
			
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				  Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 6:47 am    Post subject: (No subject)  | 
	
				
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				And there you have it.. Ready killed Java for StarGateSG-1
 
 
and I'm starting to get an odd feeling that you're actually refering to VB6, not VB.Net   The former is dead, the latter might as well be C#. | 
			 
			
				 
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				  Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:48 am    Post subject: (No subject)  | 
	
				
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				| VB6 is what I will be using. | 
			 
			
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				  Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 10:59 am    Post subject: (No subject)  | 
	
				
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				| Tony's absolutely right.  VB6 is dead.  I have no great love for Java, but it's a far better choice.[/i] | 
			 
			
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				  Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 6:49 pm    Post subject: (No subject)  | 
	
				
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				To summerize why I am using VB6:
 
 
-My teacher has lots of knowledge with it.
 
-I have books on it.
 
-It is fairly straight forward language related to C++.
 
-I don't have to worry about designing the appereacne becasue it is drop and click.
 
-I have only 2 months to leanr the language and write the program and release it.
 
-VB has all the functions I need all in one place and easy to understand.
 
-It gets good reviews on the web for converting text to xml. | 
			 
			
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				  Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:49 pm    Post subject: (No subject)  | 
	
				
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				StarGateSG-1 wrote: -My teacher has lots of knowledge with it. 
 
Programming is more about logic, algorythms and concepts, not language specific syntax. Reading a Java program should be straigh-forward
 
StarGateSG-1 wrote: -I have books on it. 
 
API, Documentation, Samples, FAQ. Then there's [Java Help]
 
StarGateSG-1 wrote: -It is fairly straight forward language related to C++. 
 
I'd argue that Java is much closer to C++ than VB6
 
StarGateSG-1 wrote: -I don't have to worry about designing the appereacne becasue it is drop and click. 
 
Same with Java, and it actually looks more impressive than what I remember VB6 to be..
 
StarGateSG-1 wrote: -I have only 2 months to leanr the language and write the program and release it. 
 
Are you already compitent in VB6?
 
StarGateSG-1 wrote: -VB has all the functions I need all in one place and easy to understand. 
 
Looking for something specific?
 
StarGateSG-1 wrote: -It gets good reviews on the web for converting text to xml. 
 
Google vb xml = 38 mil
 
Google java xml = 299 mil | 
			 
			
				 
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				  Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject: (No subject)  | 
	
				
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				| vb net and vb6 are almost the same although u guys are kinda right about saying vb6 is dead because now everyone uses vb net! i learned vb6 very easily! i'm trying to learn java now. ya not so easy! at times i wanna quit but i'm going to keep on trying until i learn. u shouldn't give up on a language. if u really wanna learn vb 6 u should check some tutorials online they are sometimes better than books! | 
			 
			
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				  Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:56 pm    Post subject: (No subject)  | 
	
				
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				cool dude wrote: vb net and vb6 are almost the same 
 
 
Really, trust me, they are two entirely distinct languages. | 
			 
			
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				  Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:57 pm    Post subject: (No subject)  | 
	
				
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				cool dude wrote: u guys are kinda right about saying vb6 is dead because now everyone uses vb net! 
 
No, we're right because Microsoft has discontinued support for VB6 | 
			 
			
				 
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				  Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 9:04 pm    Post subject: (No subject)  | 
	
				
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				wtd wrote: cool dude wrote: vb net and vb6 are almost the same 
Really, trust me, they are two entirely distinct languages.  
 
 
wat is so different about them. i think they're pretty similar and if u know one u could learn the other really easily | 
			 
			
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