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zuber




PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:02 pm   Post subject: List of commands

I have absolutely NO experience with Java,the only language I know is turing.
I run my turing programs on Turing 4.04(Yes I am going somewhere with this)
Now, ever since I got past if statements I've learned everything I know about turing from it's help files,and what I want to know is:

Are there any similar files for java? (Meaning the command itself,a brief description and a very short code using it)

All the Java guides I've found all have large amounts of theoretical stuff I really don't need, and a simple help fil would be greatly appreciated
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1of42




PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:31 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/

That has the specs for every function in the Java core library. Doesn't have code examples for every function, but you can only get so much Razz
[Gandalf]




PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:39 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

How about a more updated version:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/
and everything here might also come in handy:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/index.html

Of course... I'm hoping you're not using Ready to Program...
person




PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:09 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

I dont understand why using Ready to Program is bad if your just begginning. I know there are many flaws with it but using something like NetBeans can be confusing if your just starting out. I say use Ready for half a month or so and then move on.

PS: use cmd to compile and run
[Gandalf]




PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:35 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

It's bad mostly because it uses an outdated compiler which is missing many features introduced in 5.0 (yes, many of which a beginner might use).

If you are looking to avoid a complex IDE, why not just use a text editor and compile from the command line? Or do what I do usually, get an editor which can link key shortcuts to the compiler (a la macros). I use Crimson Editor.
codemage




PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:43 am   Post subject: (No subject)

The biggest fault I have with Ready to Program is that they don't have a comprehensive, high-school-level-student-friendly system of help files.

IMHO, that's the best feature of Turing. A student wants to check the syntax for loops, he searches for loops, then opens the article.

In RTP, the student searches the Java library for loops, the search returns 50 documents that have nothing to do with loops; the student tries loops in the index, gets the help file on loops... which turns out has nothing to do with looping structures; the student closes the ridiculous morass of information, googles: java loop tutorial, and then gets at least 1000 pages where the concept is explained far better than the native help files.
MysticVegeta




PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:55 am   Post subject: (No subject)

Well the HSA does most of the job for the graphics and userInput so if the person does move on, he is just going to get confused on how to do it "naturally" in java and would rather stick with Ready and his outdated features lke Gandalf said
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