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Cervantes




PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:42 pm   Post subject: Re: The <a href=

Cervantes wrote:

Next, it would be a good idea to quickly learn about the Sys module would be good to learn. We don't have a tutorial on this topic. Check the help file, starting with Sys.Exec. Once again, if anyone would write a tutorial on this topic, it would be greatly appreciated.


Do you guys think that should really by in the Walkthrough? I'm considering removing it, as I don't think it's all that important. File I/O and the Dir module--yes. Sys.Exec? Probably not.
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Tony




PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:02 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

I'd agree. It doesn't even return anything other than run/fail. Not Walkthrough material.
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[Gandalf]




PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:58 am   Post subject: (No subject)

Not too mention what kind of potentially harmful ideas it would bring up in people...

Although some of those functions (mainly their potential uses) are a bit interesting. System.FetchArg()? Sys.GetEnv()? Sys.GetPid? Still, I don't think that warrants a walkthrough.

*edit* Argh, I can't spell today. One of my many mistakes being misspelling "edit" as "exit". Rolling Eyes Anyway...
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Next, it would be a good idea to quickly learn about the Sys module would be good to learn.

Does this make sense to anyone?
Clayton




PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:12 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

I read that before to and i was like,"hm, I wonder if took english 101?" but anyways to make this post mean something, I agree with [Gandalf], if there was a tutorial on the Sys module, who knows what some people will come up with Confused
Cervantes




PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:54 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

[Gandalf] wrote:

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Next, it would be a good idea to quickly learn about the Sys module would be good to learn.

Does this make sense to anyone?

And you guys didn't tell me? Gosh!

The Sys section has been removed. Though [Gandalf] is right: Sys.FetchArg is something that is good to know. Well, maybe someone will right a brief tutorial exclusively for Sys.FetchArg. That could then float around in free space or possibly be included in the Walkthrough.
Foundation




PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:17 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

Thanks for the walkthrough, I find it easier to learn from here first and then in class.
wtd




PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:58 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

May I suggest giving fucntions/procedures greater priority?
Tony




PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:28 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

as in higher on the list? I would probably agree. Perhaps right after the If statements and Loops, before the graphics. It seems to be a reasonable transition.. figure out how to repeat stuff in a loop, then export that common code to a function.
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wtd




PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:16 am   Post subject: (No subject)

Tony wrote:
as in higher on the list?


Exactly.
Cervantes




PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:59 am   Post subject: (No subject)

Terrific idea. It's been changed.

More suggestions are more than welcome!
wtd




PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:15 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

Ok.

How about moving recursion up to accompany the change?

Perhaps arrays and records should also come earlier.
Cervantes




PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:39 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

What about extracting all the junk about drawing and mouse input and the like. Put that in a separate section that can be learned at pretty much any point in the Walkthrough. Sort of like, "if you're bored with the real stuff, go here for a bit to relax".
[Gandalf]




PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:10 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

How about a "concepts" section, and then a "Turing specific" section or something along those lines.

Arrays and records could be put a bit earlier, that I agree with, recursion not so much. Wink
Clayton




PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:26 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

But recursion is a fairly big concept (or important as another word for it), I agree with wtd in that it should be higher up in the list.

The idea of a "concepts" part of the walkthrough and a "Turing Specific" part is one that i like Razz
BenLi




PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:59 pm   Post subject: (No subject)

I think something that hasn't been discussed and stressed enough is proper style with procedures and functions. Stuff like global variables and parameters. Becasue I didn't learn this, my Final Project turned out really bad: a sea of global variables and parameter-less procedures:

http://www.compsci.ca/v2/viewtopic.php?t=13146

After seeing the source code, you can see what i mean
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