Athlon or Pentium

[zomg]

This is it! the final showdown between Intel and AMD
which do u think is better

I personally like AMD athlon's better for a few reasons
1)there more geared to play games
2)AMD realizes processor speed is not clock frequency
3)they make there processors better
4)Intel isnt releasing 64 bit windows processors yet thus screwing its customers for future 64 bit apps
5)AMD processors run alot cooler than Intels

im speaking from experience, my friend has p4 3.2ghz while i have an athlon 64 2800+ 1.8ghz... benchmark shows that his comp is just %1 faster than mine and both were running 32bit OS's and benchmarking tool. i cant wait till 64 bit apps are released

[Tony]

I hear that in a physical stress test - ie. throwing the processor against the floor AMDs are not as reliable..

but then again I've heard that from a frustraited, overworked and underpaid tech support person who was in a bad mood... so statement is unreliable

as for your post - you did not make any points in favour of Intel. So why is it even an option?

[zomg]

of course i didnt make any good points about intel because its an opinion answer, i dont like intel therfore i wont say anything in support of them

[josh]

I voted for AMD beccause my AMD Athalon 2600 + at home is (from what I have seen so far) way better than the P4 that is in the dells I have at school.

However I think for notebooks Intel might be better but I have never owned a notebook so I don't know for sure. I also like AMD becuase I really like the look of the 64 FX line and I am saving up to build a computer with one of those babyes.

[Blade]

shadow master wrote:

I personally like AMD athlon's better for a few reasons
1)there more geared to play games
2)AMD realizes processor speed is not clock frequency
3)they make there processors better
4)Intel isnt releasing 64 bit windows processors yet thus screwing its customers for future 64 bit apps
5)AMD processors run alot cooler than Intels

actually, anymore amd is not the only one gearing it towards videogames. in recent benchmarks the P4 is quite comparable to only the socket 939 version of the athlon 64's .. however in most new games ony the FX is powerful enough to make the p4 look bad

intel released some version of the pentium that does the same thing with the clock cycles... i think tony posted it somewheres

as of right now 64 bit technology is useless.... everybody knows that intel WILL release it when it becomes popular enough... for the people that speak through Linux, that is still only the minority... all the geeks really used was amd in the beginning and still now thats all they use... intel makes their money off of the majority of people... as in the people that think numbers matter... so they wont go 64 bit until a lot of the software companies and gaming companies start putting out both 64bit and 32bit versions of their software... they might do that to cover everyone because that is what gaming companies are doing - as in releasing games in both cd version and dvd version.. (vhs/dvd you know the deal)

the only reason that amd processors run cooler than intels is because intel's clock speed is much higher

[Dan]

Also i blive that intel is doing a better job on the laptop front and amd has some cectching up to do there.

[Andy]

pshhhhhh juss wait 4-5 months, then we see whos pwning the mobile field my vote = athlon only cuz turion isnt a option

[Mazer]

Yay Intel! *vote*

[wtd]

Other.

My vote goes to the PowerPC.

[Leftover]

shadow master wrote:

1)there more geared to play games
2)AMD realizes processor speed is not clock frequency
3)they make there processors better
4)Intel isnt releasing 64 bit windows processors yet thus screwing its customers for future 64 bit apps
5)AMD processors run alot cooler than Intels

1) AMD does own in that department (currently I guess), but I WOULD pick Intel for a photoshop or 3d design box any day.

2) The differences between AMD and Intel speeds are gay, but I believe AMD to be more realistic like you say

3) They are both manufactured in the same way, with the chip it self and the board that you connect your mobo to the chip with.

4) Their customer base will still be large with the professional world

5) Quite wrong, most AMD CPU's run 10-15 degrees C on average hotter then intel PC's. An intel 2.4CPU clocked 600mhz higher still cuns cooler then an unclocked Athlon.

The professional world probably contains about the same amount of gamers out there, so both brands will probably be around for awhile.

[Martin]

shadow master wrote:

This is it! the final showdown between Intel and AMD
which do u think is better

I personally like AMD athlon's better for a few reasons
1)there more geared to play games
2)AMD realizes processor speed is not clock frequency
3)they make there processors better
4)Intel isnt releasing 64 bit windows processors yet thus screwing its customers for future 64 bit apps
5)AMD processors run alot cooler than Intels

im speaking from experience, my friend has p4 3.2ghz while i have an athlon 64 2800+ 1.8ghz... benchmark shows that his comp is just %1 faster than mine and both were running 32bit OS's and benchmarking tool. i cant wait till 64 bit apps are released

Bullshit. I love AMD, but for different reasons. Back yours.
1. More geared to play games? How so? Intel has its 'Extreme Edition,' which is specifically geared towards gamers.
2. Okay, and your point is?
3. Come now, your backing.
4. AMD released a 64 bit extension of the 32 bit x86 archetecture, for which I am extremely disappointed. Intel was trying to push a real 64 bit (and much better archetecture than x86_64), and AMD came in and added 10 years to the life of this already ancient chipset. BIG thumbs down.
5. Temperature is neglegable, and it has been my experience that Intel processors deal with heat much better than AMD chips. With liquid or compressor cooling though, it doesn't matter.

When you are comparing your AMD XP 2800+ and a 3.2GHz Pentium 4, unless a few things are true.

1. You are using a fresh, identical OS install.
2. All other hardware that you are using is identical, and the drivers are the same.

If this was true, the P4 would kill the AMD chip.

[Leftover]

martin wrote:

shadow master wrote:

This is it! the final showdown between Intel and AMD
which do u think is better

I personally like AMD athlon's better for a few reasons
1)there more geared to play games
2)AMD realizes processor speed is not clock frequency
3)they make there processors better
4)Intel isnt releasing 64 bit windows processors yet thus screwing its customers for future 64 bit apps
5)AMD processors run alot cooler than Intels

im speaking from experience, my friend has p4 3.2ghz while i have an athlon 64 2800+ 1.8ghz... benchmark shows that his comp is just %1 faster than mine and both were running 32bit OS's and benchmarking tool. i cant wait till 64 bit apps are released

Bullshit. I love AMD, but for different reasons. Back yours.
1. More geared to play games? How so? Intel has its 'Extreme Edition,' which is specifically geared towards gamers.
2. Okay, and your point is?
3. Come now, your backing.
4. AMD released a 64 bit extension of the 32 bit x86 archetecture, for which I am extremely disappointed. Intel was trying to push a real 64 bit (and much better archetecture than x86_64), and AMD came in and added 10 years to the life of this already ancient chipset. BIG thumbs down.
5. Temperature is neglegable, and it has been my experience that Intel processors deal with heat much better than AMD chips. With liquid or compressor cooling though, it doesn't matter.

When you are comparing your AMD XP 2800+ and a 3.2GHz Pentium 4, unless a few things are true.

1. You are using a fresh, identical OS install.
2. All other hardware that you are using is identical, and the drivers are the same.

If this was true, the P4 would kill the AMD chip.

AMD gears processors towards gaming, and Intel gears processors towards the professional world (photoshop, 3ds, etc). At the price of the EE Intel CPU's, a gamer would have to have one hell of a budget for a gaming PC...

[josh]

Leftover wrote:

martin wrote:

shadow master wrote:

This is it! the final showdown between Intel and AMD
which do u think is better

I personally like AMD athlon's better for a few reasons
1)there more geared to play games
2)AMD realizes processor speed is not clock frequency
3)they make there processors better
4)Intel isnt releasing 64 bit windows processors yet thus screwing its customers for future 64 bit apps
5)AMD processors run alot cooler than Intels

im speaking from experience, my friend has p4 3.2ghz while i have an athlon 64 2800+ 1.8ghz... benchmark shows that his comp is just %1 faster than mine and both were running 32bit OS's and benchmarking tool. i cant wait till 64 bit apps are released

Bullshit. I love AMD, but for different reasons. Back yours.
1. More geared to play games? How so? Intel has its 'Extreme Edition,' which is specifically geared towards gamers.
2. Okay, and your point is?
3. Come now, your backing.
4. AMD released a 64 bit extension of the 32 bit x86 archetecture, for which I am extremely disappointed. Intel was trying to push a real 64 bit (and much better archetecture than x86_64), and AMD came in and added 10 years to the life of this already ancient chipset. BIG thumbs down.
5. Temperature is neglegable, and it has been my experience that Intel processors deal with heat much better than AMD chips. With liquid or compressor cooling though, it doesn't matter.

When you are comparing your AMD XP 2800+ and a 3.2GHz Pentium 4, unless a few things are true.

1. You are using a fresh, identical OS install.
2. All other hardware that you are using is identical, and the drivers are the same.

If this was true, the P4 would kill the AMD chip.

AMD gears processors towards gaming, and Intel gears processors towards the professional world (photoshop, 3ds, etc). At the price of the EE Intel CPU's, a gamer would have to have one hell of a budget for a gaming PC...

any real proffesional who needs to do alot of photo or video editing will probobly get a PowerPC processor in a Mac.

[Martin]

I really don't see where you get this whole AMD gears towards gaming thing. Some evidence?

[Maverick]

shadow master wrote:

1)there more geared to play games
2)AMD realizes processor speed is not clock frequency
3)they make there processors better
4)Intel isnt releasing 64 bit windows processors yet thus screwing its customers for future 64 bit apps
5)AMD processors run alot cooler than Intels

Lets see you made up number 1,2,3,4 and 5

First of all what mainstream 64 bit apps are out anyway? And isnt the 64 bit processor coming out in the future when you say these apps are, so really its perfect timing. You have no proof for #1 or 2, and you apparently have noi idea how processors are made. And number 5 is completely wrong. Intels run much cooler.