wow, self teaching C++ is hard...

[omni]

I am trying to self teach my self C++. I've downloaded tutorials and stuff and I have Dev C++ for my IDE. C++ is a change from Turing and the 2 other languages I know (TI-Basic and TI_ASM for TI-83plus).

Question: I dont know how to start. I need some sort of first program to make. What can I do with only the standard C++ libraries?

[Genesis]

I don't know much about C++, but if you're learning it, try checking out your local library (like the builidng full of books) for programming books.

My city's library sucks, but it's got tons of programming books. Plenty on C++. Most books do a good job starting you off, and then tutorials and such are a big help. That's how I learned Java.

Good luck!

[Dan]

Well if u know turing and did that in hs, and u whont some things to do to try to learn/test your slef at C++ why not use some of the turing asments u had/have and do them in C++. Or remake some of your turing stuff in C++.

Althougth the graficks whould be a problem with just the standered libs.

[Andy]

the hardest transition is the oop, other than that, learn the syntax in a week and u'll be fine

[wtd]

Make sure you're learning C++. Lots of places teach "C/C++", which isn't actually a programming language. They often consider C++ to be "C with classes." C++ is much more complex and powerful than that, and acknowledging the truth of its nature is the first step in mastering it.

[omni]

yeah, i thought about re-making my old turing programs, BUT the graphics are a problem. There aren't any standard graphics libraries, which SUCKs.

[AsianSensation]

well, there are standard graphic libraries. Technically speaking, MFC is "standard", since M$ made it.

[wtd]

AsianSensation wrote:

well, there are standard graphic libraries. Technically speaking, MFC is "standard", since M$ made it.

No, it's not.

[rizzix]

yep not even close to standard. hmm there are technically no libraries with C++. its a standalone language unlike a lot of other languages. but there is the standard template library. that usualy comes with most compilers.

[AsianSensation]

fo' real?

I always thought that MFC was standard microsoft classes? Or are there some other reasons that it's called Microsoft Foundation Classes?

Or is it because MFC was related with Visual C++? Am I just having C++ and Visual C++ confused or something?

[wtd]

AsianSensation wrote:

fo' real?

I always thought that MFC was standard microsoft classes? Or are there some other reasons that it's called Microsoft Foundation Classes?

Or is it because MFC was related with Visual C++? Am I just having C++ and Visual C++ confused or something?

There is C++, and Microsoft created a bunch of libraries in C++ which they bundled together and called MFC, and they include this all with a product they call Visual C++.

Visual C++ is not a language. It's a (bad, expensive) compiler for C++. Many of Microsoft's own libraries take advantage of the flaws and nonstandard eccentricities in Visual C++, thus tying them to that compiler.

[omni]

o yeah, if I just have a basic C++ program:

#include <iostream.h>
int main ()
{
cout << "Hello World!";
return 0;

}
and I compile and run it, the window closes before I can see the text. How do i keep the window open after execution is done and the only way I the window closes is when I close it myself?

[Catalyst]

well you could run it from the console as it is meant to, or you could add a small line to get input from the user to halt the program, such as

code:

std::string hold; std::cin>>hold;

or you could use the un-portable (and possibly dangerous)

code:

system("PAUSE");

[omni]

Whats STD stand for (aside from sexually transmitted disease, haha)?

[Dan]

wtd wrote:

AsianSensation wrote:

well, there are standard graphic libraries. Technically speaking, MFC is "standard", since M$ made it.

No, it's not.

Thanks for saving me a rant

Quote:

or you could use the un-portable (and possibly dangerous)

Code:

system("PAUSE");

Ahhhhhhhhh, ya that is evil. It is up there with goto. Uhsely there is a option in the IDE (if u are using one) that lets u make it keep the window open.