laptop

[rizzix]

yea but my point is.. you can play games.

[Dan]

agen, i did not say you could not....

What i ment about the comabity is that apple has a bad habit of making there hardware only work with there hardware or hardware just made for apple computers. Also if it can not run the windows or linux OSs it thends to loss the use of any progames that are only on thos OS (not counting the use of am emunaltor)

[Blade]

the_short1 wrote:

... 3000 mhz! and not bad price... only 1800! wow... thats pretty good... since ive seen 3GHZ computers with similiar specs for 2.5 K$$!

the athlon 64 3000+ internal clock speed is only 2.0 Ghz

3000+ is only the model number... same with the athlon xp's.. the 2500+ runs at 1.8 ghz... and 2400+ runs at 2.0, etc..

[wtd]

Hacker Dan wrote:

agen, i did not say you could not....

What i ment about the comabity is that apple has a bad habit of making there hardware only work with there hardware or hardware just made for apple computers. Also if it can not run the windows or linux OSs it thends to loss the use of any progames that are only on thos OS (not counting the use of am emunaltor)

It can run both. Windows can be run via VirtualPC. There's a performance penalty for this, of course, and VPC doesn't allow for graphics acceleration, but it's useful for all but the most CPU-intensive Windows programs. You don't need an emulator to use the native Mac OS X versions of Windows Media Player, Microsoft's Remote Desktop software, or Office, though.

Linux can also be run in VirtualPC (it emulates an x86 computer, not any particular OS running on said computer) or you can install one of the many native PowerPC versions. Mac OSX includes a full X11 implementation, so you can run most major "Linux programs" without needing to actually install Linux.

Apple computers work with standard USB 2.0 or Firewire 400/800 peripherals, and the Powerbooks can accomodate standard PCMCIA cards. The graphics output on the Powerbooks is standard DVI, so they'll work with any digital LCD monitors, or VGA monitors via an adapter. Standards-compliant and industry-leading 802.11 and bluetooth capabilities are there too.

Most major games are available for Mac OS X and Windows, but then again, if gaming's your primary reason for needing a computer, I suggest buying a PS2/XBox/GameCube and a large TV. Both combined will cost less than a decent gaming laptop and provide better gameplay.

[Dan]

Hacker Dan wrote:

(not counting the use of am emunaltor)

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[shorthair]

Blade Said :

Quote:

the athlon 64 3000+ internal clock speed is only 2.0 Ghz

3000+ is only the model number... same with the athlon xp's.. the 2500+ runs at 1.8 ghz... and 2400+ runs at 2.0, etc

Okay , im sorry but for a person posting in this thread you should at least know what your talking about , you just butchered what the entire meaning of that number is

a 3000+ FOR example , dosent run at that speed but its telling you that to match the speed of it with an INTEL processor, you would need to buy a 3GHZ


2600+ means you would need to buy a 2.6 Ghz intel to match the speed of it .

So now we have things straight lets continue


go to

www.ibuypower.com

They have a system with a Radeon 9600 / 700
with a AMD 64 3000+
256meg of ddr 2700

for 1399 american

they ship free ot canada , and with ship it as a used part so no duty on it ,

also all hte machines they sell are fully custamizable ,EVERY PART down to hte color of hte shelll

[the_short1]

so i was partyly rite... cuz i use intel... not AMD.... <<although i would like to own an AMD 3000+.... it would prob be too fast for my needs..... id be done b4 i would be ready... cuz im used to my slow comps

[wtd]

shorthair wrote:

Blade Said :

Quote:

the athlon 64 3000+ internal clock speed is only 2.0 Ghz

3000+ is only the model number... same with the athlon xp's.. the 2500+ runs at 1.8 ghz... and 2400+ runs at 2.0, etc

Okay , im sorry but for a person posting in this thread you should at least know what your talking about , you just butchered what the entire meaning of that number is

a 3000+ FOR example , dosent run at that speed but its telling you that to match the speed of it with an INTEL processor, you would need to buy a 3GHZ

And someone attempting to correct someone else should know what they're talking about. The AMD performance ratings are relative to their "Thunderbird" processor. A Thunderbird would have to run at 3,000MHz to match the performance of a 3000+ rated system.

[wtd]

Hacker Dan wrote:

Hacker Dan wrote:

(not counting the use of am emunaltor)

...

Well, if you buy an Intel or AMD based machine running Windows or Linux you technically can emulate Mac OS X, but only at 1/40th the speed of your normal CPU. VirtualPC give you Windows on a Mac at about 1/2 or 1/3 normal speed.

Two machines for the price of one...

I wouldn't be so quick to write off emulaion.

[shorthair]

wtd

can i jsut say that , your jumping into an argument you dont belong in and your completly wrong , im not sure if youre ever heard of a thing called benchmarking , but if you havent thats where all the answers lie to find out about performance and how good and fast products are , you are sadly mistaken about your comment becasue

if it were only for hte thunderbird , why the hell do they put it on the box of all their cpu's NAD IN THE DARN MANUAL EXPLAINING HTE NUMBERS EXACTLY THE WAY I DID

[wtd]

shorthair wrote:

wtd

can i jsut say that , your jumping into an argument you dont belong in

I wasn't aware I had to be invited.

shorthair wrote:

and your completly wrong

Nope. From the horse's mouth...

http://www.ocfaq.com/article.php/overclocking/AMD/36

[Dan]

wtd wrote:

Two machines for the price of one...

But a PC can run both windows and linux at 100% CPU, so i still think that you are wrong about that. When i buy a comp i dont whont ot run at 1/2 or 1/3 the normal speed. if i did i whould buy a comp that is 1/3 or 1/2 slower. (probly could buy a mac and a pc for the same price if there where 1/3 slower). Also i think you are adgarating a bit with 1/40 for emulation of mac.

[wtd]

Hacker Dan wrote:

wtd wrote:

Two machines for the price of one...

But a PC can run both windows and linux at 100% CPU, so i still think that you are wrong about that. When i buy a comp i dont whont ot run at 1/2 or 1/3 the normal speed. if i did i whould buy a comp that is 1/3 or 1/2 slower. (probly could buy a mac and a pc for the same price if there where 1/3 slower). Also i think you are adgarating a bit with 1/40 for emulation of mac.

I'm not exaggerating. It's amazing that it's possible at all for an x86 processor to emulate a PowerPC processor. The emulator that has achieved this normally runs at about 1/1000th the normal speed, but with Just-in-Time compilation of programs from x86 code to PowerPC code, it cana chieve 1/40th.

[wtd]

I should mention, that aside from being an Apple aficionado, the reason I push Apple's laptop offerings so heavily in this thread is that they're just plain well-built and reliable. That counts for a lot.

[rizzix]

no kidding