Which degree is better for computer jobs? and other Qs.

[tedbean]

I have no ideas about programming

Which degree will give me most computer knowledge from programming to website design and php staff.

Bachelor of Science? Information system? Information technology? Software engineering?

I don't have good physics understanding btw.

I am not interested in business data stuff.

Do I need advanced maths?

What is php?

I also don't understand anything programming

Please help me to become a computer specialist and help me get through the computer study.

Thanks.

[Tony]

tedbean @ Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:05 pm wrote:

I also don't understand anything programming

So how do you figure that this is something that you want to pursue?

[md]

Tony @ 2012-01-17, 12:24 pm wrote:

tedbean @ Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:05 pm wrote:

I also don't understand anything programming

So how do you figure that this is something that you want to pursue?

Isn't it obvious? He wants to make lots of money! Who cares if he enjoys the field in which he'll spend the rest of his life working!

Given the quality of the English and focus on "website design and php staff" I'd say arts might be the best place.

[tedbean]

Tony @ Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:24 am wrote:

tedbean @ Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:05 pm wrote:

I also don't understand anything programming

So how do you figure that this is something that you want to pursue?

I want a job. There are many jobs out there, I have been comparing those for a long time now. It looks like the computing programming would be a really good job for me (I am not sure about my IQ though ). I also want to work anytime I want and not many jobs allow that. I also want a desk job. I love typing keyboard

[mirhagk]

Are you in high school? Take a computer science course in your high school if you can. If you can't then look at tutorials and stuff online, and try to figure out how to do it. Or you could take a course on computer science.

Regardless, I'd suggest you know a bit about programming before you spend $10 000 a year on a program you may not like.

[tedbean]

@md, arts could be good but I am not Picasso

[tedbean]

mirhagk @ Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:21 am wrote:

Are you in high school? Take a computer science course in your high school if you can. If you can't then look at tutorials and stuff online, and try to figure out how to do it. Or you could take a course on computer science.

Regardless, I'd suggest you know a bit about programming before you spend $10 000 a year on a program you may not like.

I am trying, that is how I found out about this forum. The programming languages (eg Java and C) look so difficult, why so many {{{{{}}}}} ( ) [ ]] , I am so confused.

I am not in high school, left long ago. I really need to retrain my brain, it is going to be really tough though!

[mirhagk]

Well I'd suggest looking into a quick night class, or online course on intro to computer science. If you want a language to first learn with, Turing is arguably the simplest to learn, and C# with Visual studio is great to start out, as it's similar to C and Java, and it has many features that help you learn all of the language, and remember how to use different parts.

[md]

tedbean @ 2012-01-17, 1:27 pm wrote:

@md, arts could be good but I am not Picasso

Arts != fine arts.

If you're truly interested in developing software I would suggest starting with the basics (there are lots of good tutorials both on this site and others) and see if you enjoy it enough to work at it on your own. If you can't get into programming as a hobby then you will likely not enjoy writing code for a living and certainly won't be very good at it if you do decide to go that route.

Once you've decided that you do want to work writing software then you can decide if you want to go the CS/Engineering route or go through a college program. The merits of each depend a lot on what you want to do and what your skills are and the best way of figuring that out is really to try a bunch of different things.

[OneOffDriveByPoster]

Just to throw it out there:
Are you actually interested in programming or just IT in general?

There are lots of non-programming jobs out there in IT which is not simply data entry.
System or network administration and configuration for example.

[mirhagk]

The poster seems to want to make their own hours and work at a desk job with a keyboard, this would imply a programmer. (or a mundane data entry job)

[tedbean]

@md, what does this != mean?
@Oneoffdrive, I want to become a computer specialist not involved in the business side of things, I find the financial data boring. I don't want administrative jobs, I want a job I can work anytime anywhere I want.



I don't even know what is developing software! I know the hardware is the things I can touch like the keyboard and mobile phone; my understanding of software is the things on the screen, they change just like TV programs. They are 'soft' because they don't have a concrete existence.

I will definitely start the degree in March this year, it will involve maths and intro to programming. There are a number of unis offering computer degrees, I am applying for all of them. The software engineering degree seems the hardest one because it needs physics and maths (I really don't want to study physics, I am not even sure about maths, the proof is the hardest part. I have no clue but I did score top 5% in my state in the highschool senior standard maths exam(the maths that required for student who want to study economics and commerce in uni), but that is not enough maths for engineering ). The business information system looks like the easiest one, but I am not interested in financial data.

I know maths is really important for the computer scientist, should I study the more difficult level but I would very likely fail I still don't know why maths is related to computer programming!! Actually, I don't even know what is computer programming, those codes look so hard!!! But sitting in front of the computer, typing something make me feel intelligent , I hope my IQ rises sharply as a result of making those hard programs .

It is going to be a really big struggle this year, I hope I pass all the subjects especially the Java programming!!!

[tedbean]

mirhagk @ Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:10 pm wrote:

The poster seems to want to make their own hours and work at a desk job with a keyboard, this would imply a programmer. (or a mundane data entry job)

Most data entry jobs are related to financial matters I hate looking at invoices, so boring!

[OneOffDriveByPoster]

tedbean @ Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:29 am wrote:

I don't want administrative jobs, I want a job I can work anytime anywhere I want.

I'm afraid it ends up being all the time, and wherever you happen to be... Fulfilling software jobs probably involve issues and solutions which take some amount of thinking and inspiration. Translation: it leaves you thinking (or possibly frustrated) even when you are not "at work".

[tedbean]

OneOffDriveByPoster @ Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:49 am wrote:

tedbean @ Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:29 am wrote:

I don't want administrative jobs, I want a job I can work anytime anywhere I want.

I'm afraid it ends up being all the time, and wherever you happen to be... Fulfilling software jobs probably involve issues and solutions which take some amount of thinking and inspiration. Translation: it leaves you thinking (or possibly frustrated) even when you are not "at work".

But what is software job exactly? Some simple examples would be really good. Is designing a website such job?