Crush the python!

[Insectoid]

[BigBear]

But Python received the Linux New Media Award in the category Best Open Source Programming Language.
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[DtY]

BigBear @ Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:50 pm wrote:

But Python received the Linux New Media Award in the category Best Open Source Programming Language.
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Don't forget that python comes with libraries to do anything you could possibly ever want to do.

(Except pygame)

[Shah-Cuber]

As a python programmer (mainly), I strongly disagree with this ...
Python FTW!

[Insectoid]

Lol, I saw this while looking up that picture of uncle sam pointing at the reader. Just had to share it. Plus, I use Ruby, so while I don't think python sucks, python sucks compared to ruby.

[DtY]

insectoid @ Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:14 pm wrote:

Lol, I saw this while looking up that picture of uncle sam pointing at the reader. Just had to share it. Plus, I use Ruby, so while I don't think python sucks, python sucks compared to ruby.

Ruby does have much nicer syntax. I think the only reason Ruby is a better language is that you can attach new methods to pre-existing classes. If python had that, I think I would have no reason to continue using Ruby.

[edit] And the method names, like:

Ruby:

class Something def *(other) self * other end end

Is much nicer looking than:

Python:

class Something:     def __mul__(a,b):         return a*b

[Alexmula]

leave python alone !

[andrew.]

I don't have much experience with Ruby, but I think that Python is a great language in general.

[Dan]

DtY @ 17th June 2009, 11:34 am wrote:

I think the only reason Ruby is a better language is that you can attach new methods to pre-existing classes. If python had that, I think I would have no reason to continue using Ruby.

Dos'nt every OOP langue have that threw inheritence? (Make a child class with the new method).

If you mean dynamically then thats posible too:

Python:

class foo:    pass     bar = foo() def new_method(self):    print "Hello World"     foo.method = new_method bar.method()

[rdrake]

I think he means that you can attach and even replace methods from existing classes without needing inheritance.

Hell, you can add methods to even sealed classes in C# if you wanted to.

[DtY]

Oh wow, I never thought of that. That's awesome!
It doesn't seem to work for builtin types though, which is a shame.

Python:

>>> def inc(self): ...     self+=1 ... >>> int <type 'int'> >>> int.inc = inc Traceback (most recent call last):   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> TypeError: can't set attributes of built-in/extension type 'int'

[rizzix]

rdrake @ Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:55 pm wrote:

I think he means that you can attach and even replace methods from existing classes without needing inheritance.

Hell, you can add methods to even sealed classes in C# if you wanted to.

A seemingly powerful but dangerous feature, since you've changed the semantics of a class without formally declaring to do so. But then again, Ruby is not strictly typed.

[rdrake]

You can do funny things.

Ruby:

rdrake@HEXLEY:~$ irb irb(main):001:0> class Fixnum irb(main):002:1>   def to_s irb(main):003:2>     "42" irb(main):004:2>   end irb(main):005:1> end => nil irb(main):006:42>

[Zeroth]

Actually, thats only CPython for which that is true. Its not part of the python specification. Its only true for a specific interpreter.

code:

Jython 2.2.1 on java1.6.0_0 Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> dict <type 'dict'> >>> dict.test = lambda x: '42' >>> dict.test() Traceback (innermost last):   File "<console>", line 1, in ? TypeError: unbound method <lambda>() must be called with dict instance as first argument (got nothing instead) >>> d=dict() >>> d.test <method dict.<lambda> of dict instance 1> >>> d.test() '42' >>>

Now, as to the special method names, Python has a philosophy of using as few non-alphanumeric symbols as possible, where logical. They only use symbols for math, periods, commas, colons, semi-colons, brackets, etc. Besides, how would you differentiate in Ruby the difference between right multiplication, left multiplication, and normal multiplication? Python lets you define all three, where the left and right versions of multiply deal with situations where the other object doesn't have a multiply overload.

[DtY]

Isn't CPython the python specification? Writing a python script that wont work in CPython is useless.