Mac's like windows???

[ecookman]

After watching a episode of C|Net TV yesterday i saw that in the new OSX using Boot Camp...it gives you the option of seting up partitions for windows...and it clearly says [something] WINDOWS.

If mac's mac's are doing this...aren't they practally saying go go windows...we suck...here I will help you get rid of me??

[saltpro15]

well, assuming you still paid them >1000$ for your Mac, I don't think they're too worried about which OS you use on it. It's an apples vs oranges thing, I think they're just trying to please everyone

[ecookman]

i just find it extremely weird that another OS gives you a step by step process and walks you through installing their biggest competitor's OS

[jbking]

ecookman @ Thu May 21, 2009 2:31 pm wrote:

If mac's mac's are doing this...aren't they practally saying go go windows...we suck...here I will help you get rid of me??

No, they are saying, "We do windows too!" which means that for those that would like to be able to run both Mac OS and Windows on the same hardware, this is a means to do that, which means some developers will use Apple computers for their development environment. Don't forget that Apple sells both software and hardware. I rarely see ads saying, "Come buy Mac OS X," while I do see ads for a combination of hardware and software from Apple.

[Tony]

The strategy here is that Windows users (which is still a majority market) can now buy Mac hardware. The next step could be viewed from two perspectives:

1. For conservative users, their Mac comes with a copy of OSX which they can try out, but don't have to use.
2. For more adventurous users, they can dive right into OSX, but the machine comes with that safety of still having familiar Windows that will run that one app you couldn't get working in OSX.

[ecookman]

ooooohhhhhhhhhh
it all makes sense now...hun never thought of it that way....

thanks tony

[Dan]

Well the sinical side of me says:

It's so they can counter any aurgment aginsted OSX in the form of "Well windows dose X..." with "Well Mac's can run windows". Witch just plays into the marketing stargey of mixing up hardware and software (both mac hardware and software vs windows or both mac hardware and software vs pc hardware, rather then a fair comprason of an OS and an OS or hardware and hardware).

And they allready have your money for the hardware and the OS so what you do with it after that dose not effect them much (only losing out on OS upgrades in a few years).


However to be fair it's not the only OS that helps you dule boot or install another OS. Serveral Unix and Linux distros come with tools to help set up dual booting computer and it makes sence that a proper OS should help you format your harddrive how ever you like.

So you could say that it is just providing basic functionality that any OS should provied.

[Insectoid]

I think it's rather funny how Apple is putting huge emphasis about running Windows on mac, and then playing ads that rip on Windows. Are they promoting Windows or demoting it? What are they doing? I think Steve is just confuzled.

[rdrake]

Apple needs to help convince people to justify blowing a ridiculous amount of extra money to get an Apple logo on their computer. They make no money on the OS, and likely don't care what you put on there so long as you still buy their hardware.

The reason why Windows PCs don't run OS X is because Apple makes no money from their OS, and has no reason to make it possible (note it is possible, just not endorsed or made easy).

[wtd]

Apple's competitors are very much hardware vendors and not Microsoft itself, and Apple knows this quite well. When you realize that, Boot Camp makes much more sense.

[md]

rdrake @ 2009-05-21, 10:06 pm wrote:

Apple needs to help convince people to justify blowing a ridiculous amount of extra money to get an Apple logo on their computer. They make no money on the OS, and likely don't care what you put on there so long as you still buy their hardware.

The reason why Windows PCs don't run OS X is because Apple makes no money from their OS, and has no reason to make it possible (note it is possible, just not endorsed or made easy).

The hardware really isn't *that* overpriced at the low end of their product line (which is rather far from the low end of the market). It's more expensive then an equivalent thinkpad to be sure; but not significantly so.

[wtd]

It is also worth noting that there are vast swaths of the market Apple simply chooses not to compete in. The parts they do choose to compete in they usually field competitive hardware.

They also operate very differently when it comes to contracts than their competitors, and this has a very real effect on the value proposition of their machines. Apple, for instance, may negotiate a contract to buy $500M worth of LCD panels at a fixed price over 9 months. They get a killer deal because they've forked over a lot of money and given a panel manufacturer solid business for the next 9 months. But, the price they arranged is fixed, and at some point in that 9 months, it's likely a computer maker buying on a short-term contract will get a better price. So, Apple computers are generally much more competitive at the beginning of their lifespans.