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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:07 pm   Post subject: Jim Pretense is a lieing POS

BoingBoing link: http://www.boingboing.net/2008/06/19/canadian-industry-mi-2.html#comments

Basically, lied publicly about the new copyright bill (allegedly, I haven't listened to the recording) and then hung up on the interviewer. I'm SO glad that it's people like him who we elect to run our country.
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Insectoid




PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:21 pm   Post subject: RE:Jim Pretense is a lieing POS

Dink. A complete Dink.
Zeroth




PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:25 pm   Post subject: Re: Jim Pretense is a lieing POS

I am in the process of discussion with Ron Cannon, the MP of Kelowna-Lakeshore. He is a conservative, but I plan to talk to him mainly with about the infeasibility of "digital locks" and fair use.

He was interested to hear just how easy it is to break digital locks, and how they are typically used by companies. As well, he wanted to hear a bit more about fair use. Then he had to go and ruin all the goodwill we had established by sending me a form email response, that went back on everything we had just discussed a few hours previous.

Quote:
Dear Mr. Laing,

Thank you for your recent e-mail which expressed your concerns regarding amendments to the Copyright Act.

After careful analysis of existing legislation and consultations with stakeholders, our government introduced Bill C-61 which will amend the current Copyright Act and bring it in line with advances in technology and current international standards.

These amendments were much needed and long overdue. It has been ten years since the last major reform of this important legislation. In that time we have seen nothing short of an Internet revolution and major advancements in technology.

In today's technological environment, strong copyright law becomes even more important both to ensure the rights of those who hold copyright are protected and to ensure that users have access to copyrighted works. That is why our government has made every effort to ensure that the legislation strikes the right balance between creators, rights holders and consumers.

For creators and rights holders, people who work hard to use their talents and abilities to create things, the Copyright Act provides protection over the communication, reproduction and other uses of their work while ensuring they are fairly remunerated for their efforts.

For the average consumer, Bill C-61 means you will now be able to record television shows for later viewing(time shifting); copy legally acquired music onto other devices such as MP3 players or cellphones; and make backup copies of legally acquired books, newspapers, videocassettes and photographs onto devices you own(format shifting).

The Bill also provides exceptions for different categories of users by permitting teachers, schools, public libraries, archives and museums to make copies of copyrighted materials for educational purposes.

Should individuals find themselves in violation of copyright infringement, the Bill provides protection from massive lawsuits for individuals who find themselves in violation of copyright infringement for private, non-commercial use. In this regard, exposure to liability is limited to a fixed amount of $500 provided that the material is not protected by a technological measure(TM or digital lock).

Ensuring that artists, consumers and providers of digital technologies are protected and that copyright is respected will in the end promote creativity, innovation and competition in a digital, knowledge-based economy.

I understand your concerns and want to assure you that over the next several months our Government will continue to consult with Canadians to ensure the legislation balances the rights of all parties.

I look forward to a vibrant debate over the Bill's provisions as it moves through the legislative process and I am confident that this debate will result in a stronger, distinctly Canadian approach to copyright law in Canada.

I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts and opinions with me. If you would like to discuss this or any other issue please feel free to e-mail or telephone me at any time.

Sincerely,

Ron Cannan, MP
Kelowna - Lake Country
(250) 470-5075 (Constituency Office)
(613) 992-7006 (Parliament Hill Office)
"Your Kelowna - Lake Country Voice in Ottawa"
www.cannan.ca
ron@cannan.ca


I have actually read the Bill in question. Jim Prentice does lie, and so did Ron. There is a provision, where even if you break a digital lock for your own private use, if it does not fall under these areas: encryption research, privacy protection, disability enablement, or security research, you can and will be fined a minimum of $500. Yeah. His own tabled bill contradicts with what he said. Good job, Jim.
Dan




PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:30 pm   Post subject: RE:Jim Pretense is a lieing POS

So if we say we are doing "research" on all our CDs and DVDs it is ok? :p

I have a fealing that it might be more that they have not read the bill them selves then intienatly lieing about it.

I am listing to the mp3 of the cbc borad cast now....


Edit: After listing to the MP3, i am party include to think this guy just has no idea what so ever about copy right law or his own bill. Almost everything he says is unture but it sounds more like he is confused then lieing, but he could just be a very bad lier. As for him hanging up it was more that he gave them exctaly 10 mintues and only 10 minutes and they ran out. With that being side, i have seen other consertives out right lieing about this bill on T.V. internveiws so it would not be that unrealstic.

The real question is what can we do about it? Talking to our MPs if they are consertive like mine is, is totaly useless. They are forced to vote along party lines so even if they say they adgree with you they are not going to. If they make this bill a confidence motion, libbrals will vote for it just becues they are scared of elections.

Doese any one know what the stance of the opiston partys are for sure? Or have any ideas about what we can do about this?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:51 pm   Post subject: RE:Jim Pretense is a lieing POS

So, if we get caught with a pirated mp3, they'll charge us at least $500?
md




PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:55 pm   Post subject: RE:Jim Pretense is a lieing POS

I just listened to the interview - Pretense really does delay, avoid answering the questions, and even has the gal to say that though some actions would become illegal - you can do it anyways because you probably won't be caught.

I *really* want to write another letter to my MP now asking him to vote against the bill. I mean seriously... there is no way anyone with half a brain can seriously think this is a good idea.
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