Gotta love Rogers

Geminias · **Posted:** Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:37 am

Today I thought it was wonderful how my encrypted bit torrent traffic would go up at first to about 30kb/s or so and then hit a brick wall after about 10 seconds. If i change ports it goes up and slams into a brick wall again. Currently my download speed is 0kb/s with over 800 seeds. I wonder if Rogers traffic shaping software is so intrusive as to target users known to abuse P2P programs, unless everyone has this?

I want to try port 443 (HTTPS) since that traffic is supposed to be encrypted maybe I can squeeze my bit torrent traffic past the shapers. But I keep getting permission denied. How can I free 443 for Azureus use in Linux?

Mazer · **Posted:** Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:01 am

I may be completely in the wrong, but don't you need superuser privileges to bind to ports below 1000?

Also, are you using Azureus encryption on other other port?

md · **Posted:** Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:23 pm

Yes you need SU privileges, and I doubt it'll help anyways. Rogers shapes *all* ports.

It's annoying as hell, and should really be illegal. I pay them for a unlimited connection (as they advertise) at 6Mbps. That means I should be able to saturate my connection 24/7. Unfortunately that's not actually what they sell... and they can somehow get away with it not being false advertising.

Aziz · **Posted:** Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:17 pm

Why don't you take it to Customer Service?

Geminias · **Posted:** Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:56 pm

Rogers claims they shape traffic to "safeguard their network's stability," though if that's true they should be more transparent about it because they also save a lot of money by limiting bandwidth...

In the User Agreement we gave them the right to "impose whatever conditions necessary to safeguard network stability," however, it is a fact it has nothing to do with network security. It would be possible to hurt Rogers with a class action lawsuit, any lawyers around here?

Also, apparently Rogers deprioritizes all encrypted traffic now...

Geminias · **Posted:** Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:24 pm

I am---I believe the correct term is 'wardriving'--- right now to see if it's just my gateway the shapers are targeting. I'm getting a steady 20kb/s with encryption enabled.

A few weeks ago I got a letter from Rogers about violating copy right laws for downloading a movie. I wonder if I have been flagged for extra scrutiny by the traffic shapers...

In any case, bye bye Rogers. I'll order Sympatico at least until they get just as bad as Rogers.

Skynet · **Posted:** Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:29 am

I just tested my speed with them by downloading a rather large file from Sun.com. (Our router's not set up for BT, so I can't do a 1 to 1 comparison)

However, I had a steady 950 KB/s download for the entire 170 MB file, which is close to the 8Mbps line speed advertised for our package.

Aziz · **Posted:** Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:04 am

We used to have Sympatico... then they were charging a extra $30 for going over the bandwidth limit (it was really low, i think 2gigs?). So I got in shit from my parents and my switched to a local place (TekSavvy, I believe it's in Chatham), and we've had pretty good service and stability. Hasn't been down in the 10 months we've had it, and Bell was down more often than that. I'd suggest you check out what services the local computer shops supply, most are "dealers"/installers for ISPs

Geminias · **Posted:** Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:40 am

Quote:

I'd suggest you check out what services the local computer shops supply, most are "dealers"/installers for ISPs

But don't they go through an ISP like rogers? (That's not a rhetorical question, I honestly don't know.)

Aziz · **Posted:** Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:33 pm

They're offer for different ISPs. My parents went to Sensible Computers in town (Leamington), and got service from TekSavvy. Of course, all the phone lines around here are owned by Bell, but the ISP sets the cost(s) for the consumer.

CodeMonkey2000 · **Posted:** Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:29 pm

Glad I use sentex. I pay $35 a month, I find that rogers is overpriced. It looks like rogers has declared a holy war on bitTorrent.

Here are a few interesting articles:

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/71914
http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/

md · **Posted:** Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:50 pm

There is another cable internet company in ottawa that used to be called iStop, then 3web; now I don't know their name.

I was going to try them out but I had lots of issues getting them to actually send me a modem in a reasonable amount of time. I never actually got to the point where I had a connection.

CodeMonkey2000 · **Posted:** Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:05 pm

Why would an ISP want to limit file sharing? Are they responsible for what the client does with their service? I don't see any other reason why Rogers (or any other ISP) would try to stop file sharing.

MihaiG · **Posted:** Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:33 am

i use rogers, but ive never had problems with them limiting p2p except for a while ago, now i just get my maxxed speed when i download which is 120KB/s

Geminias · **Posted:** Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:39 am

Quote:

Why would an ISP want to limit file sharing? Are they responsible for what the client does with their service? I don't see any other reason why Rogers (or any other ISP) would try to stop file sharing.

Umm, for every bit of data you send or receive it costs the ISP X amount of money. In short, they save money by killing P2P loads.

Another reason is "On Demand" which Rogers can easily promote if their users have no other alternative for receiving movies, etc. Not so easy to promote when their are FREE alternatives like P2P.

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