Wii?

[Clayton]

I'm just interested in what everyone thinks about the Wii. i mean cmon, for a little over $200 (supposedly) you will get a totally backwards-compatible system, (in my opinion) cool nex gen controllers, and some great additions to current series, im definitely getting one, anyone else?

[Cervantes]

I will not buy one. I will not buy a PS3. I will not buy an XBox360.

I did not buy a <insert any console that isn't Sega Genesis here>.

[Clayton]

why would you not buy a wii though, i mean for your money, it is probably the best system ever, what with everything you can do with it

[Mazer]

Probably because he does not intend to buy a console. Unless of course he's trying to tell me that he wants to buy my old Sega Genesis... for, what's that Cervantes? $400? Sure!

I probably won't buy a Wii either (or any console, actually). Not for a while, anyways.

[Cervantes]

Mazer wrote:

Unless of course he's trying to tell me that he wants to buy my old Sega Genesis... for, what's that Cervantes? $400? Sure!

Not a chance! I've still got mine, you know.

Superfreak82 wrote:

why would you not buy a wii though, i mean for your money, it is probably the best system ever, what with everything you can do with it

I don't care how good a system it is or how good a deal it is, if it doesn't do what I want, I don't want it. Consumerism is rampant enough -- I'm not going to help it by going out and buying something that I don't need because it's a "good deal".

[jamonathin]

PC's are where it's at. Unless you have brothers and sisters/ any siblings taht often come over, then consoles are good, (kinda hard to share a computer) - but a lot of the good games out there are available for PC, and I personally would rather put that 200$ towards a new video card .

[cool dude]

jamonathin wrote:

PC's are where it's at. Unless you have brothers and sisters/ any siblings taht often come over, then consoles are good, (kinda hard to share a computer) - but a lot of the good games out there are available for PC, and I personally would rather put that 200$ towards a new video card .

i totally aggree with jamonathin (accept for putting $200 towards video card). i only play consoles when my friends come over. it really is pointless to spend that much money on a console when you don't play it much. put your money to good use i.e. your education, car, maybe start planning to buy future house and save money. consoles only make u stupider (if thats a word). no wonder cerventes is so smart

[[Gandalf]]

Cervantes wrote:

I'm not going to help it by going out and buying something that I don't need because it's a "good deal".

Indeed!

I don't see anything special in a Wii, in fact, I would take my time deciding between a Wii or a PS2. I haven't really liked Nintendos games since SNES, and I don't see anything special at all in their famed controller.

I'll go with a PS3, if the price becomes decent a year or so after it's released. I much prefer the games, and it'd allow me to use my precious mouse+keyboard combination, along with some other great stuff. Still, that's an if.

[Guest]

Out of all next gen consoles, I'd get a Wii for its functionality and definately it's pricepoint at $249.99. Compared to a Premium $399 XBox 360 and the Premiun $599 PS3.

[rdrake]

Cervantes wrote:

Consumerism is rampant enough -- I'm not going to help it by going out and buying something that I don't need because it's a "good deal".

The mighty Cervantes strikes again. Why aren't people rushing out to get these new consoles? Not everybody has the oh so leet HD TVs and 7.1 surround sound to take full advantage of the new games.

As nice as it is to play realistic games, some people are just happy playing their older games. Games make or break consoles, not always the features of the machine.

[jin]

Like cartoon_shark said: Games make or break consoles.

This is why i believe Wii will be great as all nintendo consoles are because of their games. Both XBOX 360 and PS3 have amazing looking games but those games will lack the "fun factor" that is in the nintendo games and some of the other old consoles. If you have played mario kart or super smash brothers or mario tennis on N64 you of the "fun factor" i speak of. im not saying that only nintendo has fun games. Infact i dont own a N64 but have played these games with friends and have a blast everytime. i have the original playstation and PS2. for te PS there were fun games such as crash bash and a few others but there werent many for the PS2. Both microsoft and sony are making more realistic good looking games whereas nintendo still makes fun games. This is why i would like to own the Wii. The tennis game for Wii looked like fun.

[[Gandalf]]

jin wrote:

Like cartoon_shark said: Games make or break consoles.

This is why i believe Wii will be great as all nintendo consoles are because of their games. Both XBOX 360 and PS3 have amazing looking games but those games will lack the "fun factor" that is in the nintendo games and some of the other old consoles. If you have played mario kart or super smash brothers or mario tennis on N64 you of the "fun factor" i speak of. im not saying that only nintendo has fun games. Infact i dont own a N64 but have played these games with friends and have a blast everytime. i have the original playstation and PS2. for te PS there were fun games such as crash bash and a few others but there werent many for the PS2. Both microsoft and sony are making more realistic good looking games whereas nintendo still makes fun games. This is why i would like to own the Wii. The tennis game for Wii looked like fun.

Yeah, I agree, but that's where you get purely subjective. For example, my taste in games completely differs from yours, hence my preference of the Playstation. You shouldn't say that there is no fun factor in XBox/PS since that is an opinion, not a fact. Of course I agree that games being realistic is far from extremely important, but that is not to say that a game being realistic neccessarily takes away from that fun factor.

And, as a minor side note, it's good to know that for the PS3 the games won't be limited by the hardware, but by the creativity and skill of the creators.

[Mazer]

[Gandalf] wrote:

And, as a minor side note, it's good to know that for the PS3 the games won't be limited by the hardware, but by the creativity and skill of the creators.

Yes, but also, it's good to know that for the Wii the games won't be limited by the hardware, but by the creativity and skill of the creators.

I mean, why don't we figure out the point at which hardware is "limiting" game developers? You can still create great games for the (in approximate order of release: latest first)
- XBox360
- XBox
- PS3
- GameCube
- PlayStation
- Nintendo64
- Dreamcast
- Sega Saturn

I'm gonna be nice and not count the 16-bit and earlier consoles, as well as the Gameboy Advance.

I hate to keep going on with "Graphics are dumb, gameplay is everything", but it's true that graphics alone don't make the game. And yes, I realise that there are other things besides uber graphics going into the next-gen consoles like uber physics and such, and that's great too but if I happen to play a game that doesn't have this I think I'll survive.

As for "the creativity and skill of the creators" I'm really worried about the game industry these days. It's getting more and more expensive to make games because of all of the advances in these games. Everyone wants the highest number of polygons for each of their high-res texture covered perfect ragdoll physics featured characters (which in most cases, I see, you almost never get to really appreciate how good they look), and that takes alot of work. And usually that boils down to hiring a crapload of people to work on the game, or try and get the employees you do have to work themselves to the bone. I'm sure by now we've all heard about ea_spouse?

PS: I had the weirdest dream last night that I was actually playtesting the Wii. The game seemed to be some kind of Guitar Hero-ish thing... I recall someone telling me it has to do with "how Metal you are." The game was really freaking tough, and after a while I noticed that no matter how Metal I was, I wouldn't get any points. When someone from Nintendo came by to take a look (and hey, I'm no Linux zealot) I saw that they were running Windows. 98. Crazy! Oh, and I got to meet Shigeru Miyamoto, so I forgave the whole Windows thing.

[jin]

The reason i first gave was the reason why i would like to get Wii not why Wii would be better than the the other consoles. And i agree different people have different game tastes and i think you got mine wrong. I do like stupid fun multiplayer games but that is when i have friends over, these i cant enjoy playing alone. So if i could i will buy a PS3 beacause it has the games that i like to play. i am a final fantasy fan (from my point of view). i have played FF7, FF8, FFX, and FFX-2. i liked all of them except FFX-2 (not trying to offend anyone). but graphics wise they were the best at their time (again my view). And i saw the FF13 trailer which looked amazing to me. Other games which i liked on the PS3 were assassins, metal gear solid and tekken. So sorry about not claryfying i did not want to say that Wii is better or not i just wanted to say Wii is different and seems like fun.

[MysticVegeta]

LOL I have never owned anything except for my poor 4-year-old ps 1, LOL. I just dont see the point of buying games.. you get emus for ps2, xbox for free on the internet and games for them from <insert illegal means of getting games on internet> mediums. So my conclusion is I just bought a huge ass LCD screen that I use for computer gaming and I have everything I need right here