Where do i start?

[apomb]

I thank you all for helping me understand the code (wtd) ... but im having trouble actually installing the compiler and stuff i downloaded from Borland .. does anyone know what i mean? or who can help?

[wtd]

Use MinGW, the Minimalist GNU for Windows compiler.

The easiest way to install it is via Dev-C++, which can be acquired here.

You can use the tools via the command-line (the ideal way to start out) by placing the path to the "bin" directory in your PATH environment variable. If you need help with this it can be provided (please indicate if you're using Windows 95, 98, ME or 2000 or XP).

Also, if you decide to use the Dev-C++ integrated development environment, there are people here with plenty of experience with that program.

[rizzix]

for borland u can download it right here: http://borland.com/products/downloads/download_cbuilderx.html#

you need to register.. and then they send u a key through the email.. its a matter of just installing it and downloading the key... and using the key to complete installation.. then ur done.


NOTE: you need to download the "Personal" one. there really is not much lack of functionality just that some enterprice etc etc.. stuff is not available.

[apomb]

ok heres what i have :

EDIT: I downloaded DEV-C++ ...

now what the crap do i do ... theres nothing to actually run ... every time i try, it says "2 C:\Dev-Cpp\Examples\WinAnim\2 unable to run program file. " ... WHY!?!?

btw, i have Windows ME

Oya, i dL'ed DivC++ at school, thats the easiest, only 2. something mb!

rizzix: 810 MB!!! too big for my needs, just take too long ... like 21 hours or something! like i said earlier, i now have DEV-C++ on my home comp... and borland... but cant get either to run

[rizzix]

hmm its only: 327 Mb... i think thats wht it says on the site nywyz.. but u do have the free borland compiler (BCC55)?

hmm follow the instruction in the readme file i think. yep i did something like that.. but if u still dont get it.. i'll post u the .cfg file that i have.

[wtd]

Do a search on your hard drive for "gcc.exe", then report back with the result.

[apomb]

Dont worry about the Borland thing, all i have now is Dev-C++, its pretty kool but i have this problem : i cant run any code ... or mabe thats what the gcc is for ... im not sure but its not on the school computer that i downloaded Dev-C++ onto. I will check at my house for that file when i get there

[wtd]

Did you find where "gcc.exe" is located on your computer?

[apomb]

It is not here ... now what?

[wtd]

Are you certain?

You need to have installed Dev-C++ so it includes GCC. This one looks to do that:

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/dev-cpp/devcpp4970-gcc32.exe

Oh heck, just go out and install Linux. Thatw ay you'll have a platform you can actually develop on. This Windows crap is getting really old.

[JHanson90]

OK, this is slightly off-topic, but...

wtd wrote:

Oh heck, just go out and install Linux. That way you'll have a platform you can actually develop on. This Windows crap is getting really old.

I too have many issues with my Windows machine, and need to install Linux to do what I want. I would look on Google, but I've learned to trust this community very well, in many cases better than I would any old website; I need some information, if you could. My family currently does not want me to install Linux. "My family" meaning my brother, because he is our current designated comp wiz. He's a Microsoft lacky, he insists on doing everything the M$ way: it might be hard to convince him. What are some major hard facts I could hit about Linux that would be way better than Windows for what I am doing? Also, what's the best distribution to use that has all the features I would need, but also preferably one that is more pleasing to the eye to look at than some of the uglier GUIs? Any help is greatly appreciated.

[apomb]

wtd wrote:

Oh heck, just go out and install Linux. That way you'll have a platform you can actually develop on. This Windows crap is getting really old.

Absolutely! ... The next damn computer i get willl have Linux, and FireFox and C++ ... Thats IT!!!

[Genesis]

JHanson90 wrote:

I too have many issues with my Windows machine, and need to install Linux to do what I want. I would look on Google, but I've learned to trust this community very well, in many cases better than I would any old website; I need some information, if you could. My family currently does not want me to install Linux. "My family" meaning my brother, because he is our current designated comp wiz. He's a Microsoft lacky, he insists on doing everything the M$ way: it might be hard to convince him. What are some major hard facts I could hit about Linux that would be way better than Windows for what I am doing? Also, what's the best distribution to use that has all the features I would need, but also preferably one that is more pleasing to the eye to look at than some of the uglier GUIs? Any help is greatly appreciated.

Slightly off topic indeed. But I'm always one for promoting Linux.

1) You can have Windows and Linux on the same hard drive, so there may not even be a need to convince your brother of anything, except to share the HD. Partition half of it for Linux, and half for Windows. You don't even need to format the drive to do this. (Or you could install a seperate hard drive for Linux.) That's one of the great things about it, it's fairly friendly with Windows on the same computer. It comes with a boot program that lets you select which OS you want to boot, and you can access your NTFS partition (Windows) files from Linux. (In most distros anyways.)

2) A good distro that has all the support you need/looks good right of the bat/is user friendly, is Suse. I'd highly reccomend it. Check out www.suse.com.

3) It's hard to explain what makes Linux so much better than Windows (Other than stability, customization, and power) it's something you kinda have to find out for yourself.

You could also check out a Live CD, which lets you run a Linux OS simulation right off of a CD, from Windows. I've never tried one, and have heard mixed feelings about them, but it's always an option.

But no matter what you do, you're probably going to always want to have XP on your system in some form or another. I use it to run Photoshop (Because the GIMP is not better, I don't care what people say), to run 3DS Max, Visual Basic, as well as other graphics software and software not compatible with Linux or WINE. And also to play games.

Also check around this site, there's a few topics that discuss Linux and different distros if you're looking for more info.

[wtd]

If your family has a lot of "stuff" on their computer, it's going to be difficult to convince them to change. People don't like change. Besides, ifyou suggest it, and for some reason something bad happens, then it's your fault, and that's not a good position to be in.

The best suggestion is to buy or build your own computer. That way you never have to consider your family's wishes when making a change to it, and this gives you a lot of freedom to explore the computing world. It doesn't have to be anything particularly spectacular, but can be if you have a large budget.

[JHanson90]

Genesis wrote:

JHanson90 wrote:

I too have many issues with my Windows machine, and need to install Linux to do what I want. I would look on Google, but I've learned to trust this community very well, in many cases better than I would any old website; I need some information, if you could. My family currently does not want me to install Linux. "My family" meaning my brother, because he is our current designated comp wiz. He's a Microsoft lacky, he insists on doing everything the M$ way: it might be hard to convince him. What are some major hard facts I could hit about Linux that would be way better than Windows for what I am doing? Also, what's the best distribution to use that has all the features I would need, but also preferably one that is more pleasing to the eye to look at than some of the uglier GUIs? Any help is greatly appreciated.

Slightly off topic indeed. But I'm always one for promoting Linux.

1) You can have Windows and Linux on the same hard drive, so there may not even be a need to convince your brother of anything, except to share the HD. Partition half of it for Linux, and half for Windows. You don't even need to format the drive to do this. (Or you could install a seperate hard drive for Linux.) That's one of the great things about it, it's fairly friendly with Windows on the same computer. It comes with a boot program that lets you select which OS you want to boot, and you can access your NTFS partition (Windows) files from Linux. (In most distros anyways.)

2) A good distro that has all the support you need/looks good right of the bat/is user friendly, is Suse. I'd highly reccomend it. Check out www.suse.com.

3) It's hard to explain what makes Linux so much better than Windows (Other than stability, customization, and power) it's something you kinda have to find out for yourself.

You could also check out a Live CD, which lets you run a Linux OS simulation right off of a CD, from Windows. I've never tried one, and have heard mixed feelings about them, but it's always an option.

But no matter what you do, you're probably going to always want to have XP on your system in some form or another. I use it to run Photoshop (Because the GIMP is not better, I don't care what people say), to run 3DS Max, Visual Basic, as well as other graphics software and software not compatible with Linux or WINE. And also to play games.

Also check around this site, there's a few topics that discuss Linux and different distros if you're looking for more info.

Thanks for the info, it will help me a lot.

wtd wrote:

If your family has a lot of "stuff" on their computer, it's going to be difficult to convince them to change. People don't like change. Besides, ifyou suggest it, and for some reason something bad happens, then it's your fault, and that's not a good position to be in.

It's my computer, they all have their own, but yes they don't like change. We are running on a crappy network, and they're paranoid that something will go wrong with everything if I were to use a Linux. They don't know the facts, and would only trust them from my brother, who as I said will probably attempt to keep me from using Linux unless I can convince him first. But, ah, what could go wrong?