Why Does M$ Do This so Often?

[Dan]

Aucatly we do have trupes in Iraq that are on excahge. Tho i do agrea with you that peoleop should not protest things they do not understand or have all the facts on. However i ment by bush == big brother thing as a joke based on the fact that he illgeal autherized the spying on some armaican clivens witch is a fact and is know to most peoleop who watch the news.

Why i should care about the polticls of another conotry? Simpley beuases we all live on this erath together and we are not icealoted by man made boraders. If the U.S. starts war it hurts us all, if they start going 1984 on there own peoleop it hurts us all.

[person]

Wait...why would it hurt us all if the US starts attacking another country?

[Tony]

first on Microsoft - this is nothing new. Heck, last time there was an actual zero-day exploit (one with image file renders I belive) they just bundled the patch with the next monthly update. This just crashes the browser, annoying, but as the article says - no known vulnarbilities.

Now on the spun-off topic of wars - our good friends over at msn news are convinced that Cost of Iraq war could surpass $1 trillion. Now you just try to think if there is _anything else_ that we could have done with such economic resource, than sit around in Iraq, shooting civilians.

(and to answer person's question directly: when U.S. goes to war, it pulls the rest of the world along the the ride)

[person]

But the US will get Iraqi oil in in return.

[Tony]

well look out, because Canada has the second largest oil reserve in the world.

[Dan]

person so 37832 human clivenions dead (1) and $1 trillion (2) is worth 5% of the oil industry? Thats right iraq only supisles about 5% of the oil to the USA. (5% in 2005, 3.9% in 2002). In fact canada supiles 14% of the USAs oil, that is almost 3 times that of iraq.

In just therms of moeny alone oil comanpys do not come close to making that of others like wal-mart. The is no way you can say that 5% of the US oil is worth $1 trillion and 37832 clivleions.

[Boo-chan]

Well civilian casualties are pretty much collateral damage so I don't really think that they should be considered in finding the cost of a war. As well, I believe that the majority of that money is being spent trying to build peace in the country, winning the war was much easier.

5% may not seem like much but it is a foothold and hopefully the start of the end of the Muslim world using OPEC to pressure the rest of the world into complying with their wishes. Besides if it actually establishes democracy in the Middle East it might just be worth it.

[Neo]

Andy wrote:

i was walking down UT the other day, and i saw a protest that said get our troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq..

UT students seem to be well informed.

[Andy]

@ tony's link

woa.. suncor! my friend is doing co op over there! 15 bux an hour, no provincial tax, free place to live, every second friday off with jet ride home to calgary and -40 degrees on average..

[Dan]

Boo-chan wrote:

Well civilian casualties are pretty much collateral damage so I don't really think that they should be considered in finding the cost of a war.

WHAT????? You think that 37,832 human lives that had nothing to do with the war should just be considered collateral damage and a cost of war? I think that 1 life is enought to make this wrong never mind times that by 38 thounsand.

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As well, I believe that the majority of that money is being spent trying to build peace in the country, winning the war was much easier.

How do you figgure that? Unless you consdier killing off 38 thoundans peoleop making peac???? I mean even if we where to aucatly blive that the US had the best anations the magoity of that money is not going to peace but to buy weponds. In fact all of trillion is in paying soldigers, buying equment supiles, ect. I don't see how that makes peac. Using it for peac whould be doing things like paying your UN dues and obaying them. Or maybe not usiing it funed scertive persions in other contrys where you can tortore peoleop to death.

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5% may not seem like much but it is a foothold and hopefully the start of the end of the Muslim world using OPEC to pressure the rest of the world into complying with their wishes. Besides if it actually establishes democracy in the Middle East it might just be worth it.

NOTHING, and i mean nothing is worth killing an inscent life. If this is the cost of democracy i whould rather have none. Do you hotly blive it is mortality and ethloiclky corcet to spend that much tax meony and more impornty kill 37,832 insent peoleop for small foothold on oil?

I can't even compreahed how you can think of this as just a cost of war or justfiying bering democracy to iraq. Also if this is a war it whould be an illgeal one, acording to international law you HAVE TO be atacked 1st to decalr war. Last time i checked the U.S. did not get atacked by iraq. If we where to falow internatal law to the letter bush and serveral of the peoleop high up in the U.S. gorvement should be trial for war crimes right now.

In summry i am discustecuted with both your coments and the U.S.'s atacktions.

[Martin]

Hacker Dan wrote:

NOTHING, and i mean nothing is worth killing an inscent life.

Not true at all. This isn't to say that I agree with the Iraq war, but sometimes you have to put the well being of others in front of people's lives.

[Dan]

I do not think that desion is somthing someone can make for another. There maybe situations where it is need to put your own life at risk but i don't see how you can for others.

Edit: the above and the part you quted of my last post is a persaonl option obvesly and of corse peoleop are not going to argea with it since it is radical.

[Tony]

Hacker Dan wrote:

NOTHING, and i mean nothing is worth killing an inscent life.

as the question from Swordfish goes - would you take life of one kid to save thousands?

Anyways, the entire thing is more like a modernday crusade. Just in the name of democrasy and oil instead of god and gold.

[codemage]

It's all about oil, but not as an end in itself.

My personal conspiracy theory is that the US wants to drain the entire middle east of oil. They don't really even want it for themselves (although it's profitable in the short term) - they want to guarantee that their political opponents have no source of revenue 20-30 years from now when the pumps run dry.

Think about it, if it weren't for oil, the only middle eastern countries that would still have a semblance of economies would be Israel, Jordan and Saudi Arabia... oh, look... those are America's allies.

The war was about keeping the oil flowing.

[bugzpodder]

Andy wrote:

you know. i'm sick of people bashing bush for every little thing... he's not even OUR president.. i was walking down UT the other day, and i saw a protest that said get our troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq.. WTF! WE DONT HAVE TROOPS IN IRAQ, AND OUR TROUPS ARE WELCOMED IN AFGHANISTAN FOR PEACE KEEPING...

whats diff between peace keeping in afghan and sitting around in iraq? i dont see a difference. its not like theres no casualties in afghan. didn't one of our guys got axed in the head?

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20050804_afghanistan_timeline_050804
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060306/axe_account060306/20060307/