Always state your compiler

[md]

nike52 @ 2008-04-14, 9:59 pm wrote:

I recommend Dev C++ for the newbie, I didn't have any problems with it while learning C++. Golly, all I had to learn for that IDE was F9, compile. Command line is like a prick in the butt. I wouldn't go deep into that IDE, once you've mastered C++ with it, move on to better IDEs. Other IDEs can be as comprehensive to learn as C++. Another prick in the butt when you only want to master C++.

Dev C++ is an IDE, and not a very good one at that. And as others have pointed out, avoiding the command line is just about the worst way to go about learning how to program.

Incidentally, the most widely supported and cross-platform C++ complier is g++, the GNU C++ Compiler.

[rahzab]

I checked out GNU c++ compiler, but being newb, I dont know how to install it. There are too many prerequisites...

Also, I do use dev - c++ as my compiler and i am learning c++ while using it, so is this bad?
Then what would be the best free c++ compiler?

[CodeMonkey2000]

dev c++ is not a compiler, it's an IDE. We have a good tutorial Here.

[Rigby5]

Dan @ Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:27 pm wrote:

The command line and shell might be the singal most powerfull tool i have used. It is defatly worth your while to try to learn how to complie things from the comand line and move around and do tasks on a computer threw it.

With nix based servers it is almost required that you know how to use the command line/some shell to be able to adminstatre them.

I agree with you, but it should not be that way.
The IDE or other graphical tools are way faster, more intuitive, etc., and their lack is what is holding nix based computers back.
The IDE originally was developed for Amiga BASIC in 1984, and unfortuanely Commodore hired Microsoft to do it.
That is where Microsoft picked up on the whole idea.
It was not theirs to begin with.
Much of what Windows does was "borrowed" from the Amiga.

[wallc++]

so is there anything good about vc++ 2008 express? and when you say command line you mean command from the command prompt right?
im trying to use vc++ 2008 express because of dark GDK i cant seem to find out what template to use when im just programming in c++
(thats why i like turing and vb6, just type code)

[bbi5291]

Rigby5 @ Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:23 pm wrote:

I agree with you, but it should not be that way.
The IDE or other graphical tools are way faster, more intuitive, etc., and their lack is what is holding nix based computers back.

There are a number of very good IDEs for Linux at least - not so sure about other *nix systems - just do a search for them.
As for other tools, sure they might be more intuitive for the new user, but they are simply not faster than the command line - unless of course you aren't comfortable with the command line, in which case it's saying nothing. Also, the command line is compact and more powerful.

[ryan.s]

Quick question, was here and I thought I would ask.

What exactly is MinGW? I have seen a lot of refrences to it on my pc and within Code Blocks, however i am fairly certain I use GCC (or other similar acronym)

[Insectoid]

MinGW stands for 'Minimal GNU for Windows'. It's the Windows version of GCC.