Computer Science Canada

St. Clair or Fanshawe?
Author:  jamonathin [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:34 pm ]
Post subject:  St. Clair or Fanshawe?
I know that most of you will probabily say, "screw college, go to Waterloo, obviously." Wull, I can't because my marks aren't good enough to do that, and I wouldn't have enough money to attend Waterloo. So here are Two links, and I wanan see what your opinion is. .

Fanshawe

St. Clair

And I know that this is the 01/02 Calender for St. Clair and they're not updated, which itself could be a sign. .

Also, I know I'm going to need to go to another type of school after college if I want to get into the Video Game Field. .
Author:  Tony [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:45 pm ]
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between the two Fanshawe appears to be a better option.

I don't know about your marks, but financing your way through Waterloo is not as difficult as you think due to the co-op system. OSAP lets you pay 4 years later with no interest.

I'm sure that you know that Martin is out for a year long work-term in Japan. And he just finished first year of computer science.
Author:  Andy [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:45 pm ]
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woot st.claire! go windsor, obvoiusly that is the better choice.. you get to study at a HUGE campus and you get AWESOME air quality too! yum, lol
Author:  codemage [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:14 pm ]
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I think Fanshawe has the better programming option. They also have better funding (therefore better facilities, etc) since their enrollment is about three times more than St.Claire.

As far as the host cities go, they're comparable. Both cities have universities, both are fairly scenic, London is bigger by 120,000 & closer to Toronto - Windsor is closer to the US border.

If you're specifically interested in game programming, hunt the web and/or talk to academic counsellors (at a college) to make sure you're making the right choices, especially concerning course selection.
Author:  Hikaru79 [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:12 pm ]
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Is Fanshawe in Windsor? If so, I haven't heard of it, so I'll assume it's elsewhere. Chances are the differences between the educational quality of the colleges aren't as large as the lifestyle differences between the two -- if you go to St Clair, you'll probably be at home with your parents, paid for. If you go away, you are on your own, in a dorm, homesick. Of course, you're also free Very Happy I think that should be the deciding factor, really.

I mean, if you were choosing between Harvard or Windsor, that'd be different. But the difference between St. Clair and Fanshawe probably isn't humongous.
Author:  jamonathin [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:28 pm ]
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Well, Fanshawe's in London - and is corresponded to Western i believe, as is St. Clair to Windsor. The fact that it's in London makes no difference to me because my mother lives in St. Thomas (15 mins away) and My grandmother lives right in London. And that's actually where my brother is staying cuz he goes to Fanshawe too for HK. And right now, I live in windsor/amherstburg so St. Calir is no prob to get to.

Tony wrote:

I don't know about your marks, but financing your way through Waterloo is not as difficult as you think due to the co-op system. OSAP lets you pay 4 years later with no interest.

It's just the residence i think that would kill me. And to get into Waterloo University I'd need better than the 57 in ENG4U i got last year that I'm trying to improve this year (which makes me a super senior Head Bang . . yeah lol) but I don't even have enough U courses for UniV n e ways.

Fanshawe Does look like it would be a better than St. Clair, but I wasn't too shure. . i dunno, I'm still not shure yet.
Author:  lyam_kaskade [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:41 pm ]
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jamonathin wrote:

It's just the residence i think that would kill me.


You mean like the all-male building i got stuck with in UWP?

(or are you referring to the price - OSAP gives more money if you live in rez)
Author:  Cervantes [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:47 pm ]
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Mac has Software Engineering & Game Design. Smile
Do you have 78-80% average?
English
Calculus
Chemistry
Physics
Geometry and Discrete Math (recommended. May be exchanged for Data Management, Biology, or Earth and Space science)
Author:  md [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 5:45 pm ]
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lyam_kaskade wrote:

You mean like the all-male building i got stuck with in UWP?


See to me that shows that you don't do out enough; if you really wanted to find some girls you'd discover that it's really easy Razz
Author:  Notoroge [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:40 pm ]
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Funshawe, lol. Just apply for a BA at Waterloo. Minimum competing average is what, 75?
Author:  StarGateSG-1 [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:17 pm ]
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Go to Durham or UOIT!

Durham has a programing course witha 70% avg in 6 courses one has to be english and one math the rest is up to you as long as they are all U or M courses and maybe C.

UOIT has a game design and entrapernership course, which same as above except for the C level courses.

There is another courses at UOIT but it is for people who wnat to be the boss of the programmers.

Theya re both in Oshawa.
Author:  jamonathin [ Tue Oct 04, 2005 6:30 am ]
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Cervantes wrote:
Mac has Software Engineering & Game Design. Smile
Do you have 78-80% average?
English
Calculus
Chemistry
Physics
Geometry and Discrete Math (recommended. May be exchanged for Data Management, Biology, or Earth and Space science)

I have that average, thankfully im not that dumb, but I unfortionately don't have that Chem . . Puppy Dog Eyes

Notoroge wrote:
Funshawe, lol. Just apply for a BA at Waterloo. Minimum competing average is what, 75?

Yeah, that kinda goes with my "screw college, go to Waterloo" comment, i wish i could tho.

StarGateSG-1 wrote:

Theya re both in Oshawa.

That's pretty far, and there's to much crap I have to stick around with in the " windsor >= me <= oakville " area.

Thanks for your inputs guys, it looks like Funshawe's winnin it.
Author:  lyam_kaskade [ Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:56 am ]
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CornFlake wrote:

See to me that shows that you don't do out enough; if you really wanted to find some girls you'd discover that it's really easy Razz


Oh don't get me wrong. I don't have much trouble meeting girls outside of my building (And dating someone that lives in the same place as me sounds like a bad idea anyway).
It would just be nice to have some variety, especially since I grew up with a multitude of sisters, so I'm used to it.

jamonathin wrote:

I have that average, thankfully im not that dumb, but I unfortionately don't have that Chem ..


Correspondence?
Actually I don't think the entrance requirements for Waterloo are much higher than that. It's gone down since the double cohort...
Author:  codemage [ Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:41 am ]
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A lot of the colleges / universities hired on temp staff for the double cohort to increase enrollment (& ease the admission average), but the trend is reversing now that the brunt of the DC has passed.

Consequently, necessary averages are dropping, but not by a whole lot.
Author:  Paul [ Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:29 pm ]
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I was studying in DC over the weekend and read an article in the UW newspaper that every girl who goes to UW will within a limited time get hit on by somewhat 4837 guys who thought they even remotely looked in their direction.
... I think WLU is a much better option for things like that.
Author:  Andy [ Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:12 pm ]
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paul what program are u in at uw?
Author:  AsianSensation [ Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:08 pm ]
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Paul wrote:
I was studying in DC over the weekend and read an article in the UW newspaper that every girl who goes to UW will within a limited time get hit on by somewhat 4837 guys who thought they even remotely looked in their direction.
... I think WLU is a much better option for things like that.


Lol, that's what naoki was telling me the other day. Yeah go Arts and Science UofT, w00t!

As for St.Clair or Fanshawe, I would also take into account how much money they are offering you. If one offers much more than the other, I would try stick to that one, cuz when it's your first time buying textbooks, you'll realize that money really DOES matter.
Author:  bugzpodder [ Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:20 pm ]
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i dont know why UW has such a good reputation for things. Yes there are a couple of (as opposed to many) good profs, and a few (as opposed to a lot of) smart guys. but from what I've seen, there isnt really anything special in anything else. and the UW newspaper is the most fukced up piece of sh!t i've ever seen.
Author:  Hikaru79 [ Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:23 pm ]
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bugzpodder wrote:
i dont know why UW has such a good reputation for things. Yes there are a couple of (as opposed to many) good profs, and a few (as opposed to a lot of) smart guys. but from what I've seen, there isnt really anything special in anything else. and the UW newspaper is the most fukced up piece of sh!t i've ever seen.

It has a good reputation with employers, which objectively speaking, in the long run, is what matters most, no?
Author:  md [ Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:35 pm ]
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Also you have to realize that the good profs tend to teach higher level courses, so if you're in first or second year you're getting the second rate profs who are new to teaching most of the time (not to say they aren't good too... usually...). The real reason UW is so good is because of hte coop program. Since coop get's you lots of experience actually working hte the field you study, when you graduate you are of more value to an employer then a student sho does not have the same experience.
Author:  lyam_kaskade [ Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:59 pm ]
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bugzpodder wrote:

and the UW newspaper is the most fukced up piece of sh!t i've ever seen.


Hear hear!!
(I assume you're speaking of the Imprint)
Author:  md [ Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:29 pm ]
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Hey now... the imprint isn't that bad... I'll have you know that my girlfriend used to work there, and some of my friends now do... to be sure it's not the best... but still... You've got to admit that the misprint is funny though
Author:  Martin [ Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:16 am ]
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Imprint is retarded.

Problems:
1. I offered to write a script to put their newspaper online for them, they said no because they "didn't trust the computer." It takes about 6 hours to do reading through a document saying EXACTLY what to do. I imagine that the script would have it done in 15 seconds tops.

2. I was in Toronto and grabbed some newspapers from UoT and Ryerson to show them. They took offence.

3. Waterloo is boring. It's famous because of co-op, that's it. As soon as UoT has a decent co-op program, it'll be the new star.
Author:  wtd [ Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:05 am ]
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Martin wrote:
1. I offered to write a script to put their newspaper online for them, they said no because they "didn't trust the computer." It takes about 6 hours to do reading through a document saying EXACTLY what to do. I imagine that the script would have it done in 15 seconds tops.


Isn't fear of computers great?

The wife and I recently took the dog to the vet. We asked if we could e-mail in additional information about his diet, but they told us they don't use the internet because they got hit by a virus.

So instead they do everything via sneakernet.
Author:  codemage [ Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:20 am ]
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I think it was Mitnick that said that the only way to secure a computer system is to pull out the cord.

Some people seem to take that as advice.
Author:  Hikaru79 [ Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:30 pm ]
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codemage wrote:
I think it was Mitnick that said that the only way to secure a computer system is to pull out the cord.

I believe he also mentioned pulling the power cord, putting it in a safe, and having 24/7 armed guards around it. (No, seriously, he did)
Author:  Mazer [ Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:55 pm ]
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Then who was it who said you had to bury it 100 or so feet underground?
Author:  Martin [ Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:52 pm ]
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wtd wrote:
Martin wrote:
1. I offered to write a script to put their newspaper online for them, they said no because they "didn't trust the computer." It takes about 6 hours to do reading through a document saying EXACTLY what to do. I imagine that the script would have it done in 15 seconds tops.


Isn't fear of computers great?

The wife and I recently took the dog to the vet. We asked if we could e-mail in additional information about his diet, but they told us they don't use the internet because they got hit by a virus.

So instead they do everything via sneakernet.


Hey, if it weren't for people like that, we'd have a lot harder a time finding a job.

The best part about the Imprint thing was that I said: "I'll set the script up to run at 6am on the day that all of the information is on the computer, so if it messes up, you can just do it by hand." They still wouldn't let me write it. Crazy.
Author:  rizzix [ Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:29 pm ]
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c'mon martin get the hint Wink

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