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Compsci downtime+roll back+eveything_else_compsci

Author:  Token [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:06 am ]
Post subject:  Compsci downtime+roll back+eveything_else_compsci

wow, we lost a lot of stuff! I think all the way back before school started! Still no news post, I'm sure we can expect one coming. Anyone know what happened?

Author:  StarGateSG-1 [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:29 am ]
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Mad Damn, Damn, Damn! Mad

No clue what happened.
It wasn't the same problems before, that was just over crowding right?

We did lose alot of good stuff to.

Author:  jamonathin [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:46 am ]
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Yeah we did lose a few things, but it's no biggie. Everyone probabily got the information they were looking for, they juss cant look back on it Confused.

Oh well . .

Author:  Tony [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:14 am ]
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Well everything since the 14th.. so about 5 day's worth of. Crap.

Last rollback crash was just 3 months ago. And 6 months prior to that we've been DoSed and taken down for over a week. Damn it. Expect the next downtime to be in... 1.5 months? Confused @#$% Evil or Very Mad

I'm looking at some site stats
site control panel wrote:

Disk usage 1262.88 Megabytes
SQL Disk usage 106.23 Megabytes
Disk space available 785.12 Megabytes
Bandwidth usage (current month) 7.39 Megabytes

Looks like our host has reset (or simply lost) bandwidth counter. Anyways..

Who's in favour of moving everything to TextDrive? I have just 1GB of disk space and will be hosting other projects there as well. Though compsci's MySQL is just 100 MB. I'm not sure how we have over 1GB of files. I believe that at least half of those are Dan's personal anyways.

Author:  StarGateSG-1 [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:16 am ]
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Thats not a bad idea, even 40$ a month isn't bad, there must be hundreds of active users that even if everyoen gave 1 or 2 dollars every few months we can be set for years to come.

Author:  wtd [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:46 am ]
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The problem is... who do you trust to collect any funds? Does compsci.ca incorporate as a non-profit?

Author:  StarGateSG-1 [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:50 am ]
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Ya, I know what you mean, did you see that post about who to trust, the sites finance guy stole the crash and hacked thr site.

I guess you could always set up a paypal account and then have it wired directly to an account which then a host site who be sent moneyu every month by computers.

But then there is the non-profit part! I am not sure about that.

Author:  wtd [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:02 am ]
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Well, a few compsci.ca veterans get together, form a company, get a bank account that belongs strictly to that company rather than any one of them individually. Members of the site then send funds to that company.

Author:  StarGateSG-1 [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:11 am ]
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That would work, put then who would form it?

Maybe it should be like a board of directors that are elected, that would be interesting.

No we can't do that, then someone whom has real people skills could join and get a postion on the board, if we did that then you would need to have requirments.

Author:  wtd [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:23 am ]
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It'd likely be a Limited Liability Partnership/Company formed by three or four people, not the community as a whole.

Author:  StarGateSG-1 [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:43 pm ]
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Ya, that wopuld be best, it would be like Tony,HackerDan,wtd and someone else like another good mod.

Author:  Tony [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:59 pm ]
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Or I just take on a dictatorship position.. whatever works best Twisted Evil

Author:  Token [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:22 pm ]
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Tony wrote:
Or I just take on a dictatorship position.. whatever works best Twisted Evil


Hah, you go for it Tony, I'd support you, providing theres somthing in it for me Laughing

Well switching hosts sounds like the thing to do, or maybe some sort of backup if these are planned downtimes, and if you do have knowlege of these downtimes, could you let us know? because if we have good conversation going we could always save off what everyone said and just paste it back out of a text editor after into one window.

heres an idea, maybe we could get a University or college to host. Would that be possible? just a thought...

Author:  Tony [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:59 pm ]
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Token wrote:
Hah, you go for it Tony, I'd support you, providing theres somthing in it for me Laughing

You get to keep your account Twisted Evil

I don't believe those are planned downtowns, else the host would make more recent backups.

And we'd need to start an officially recognized club at the University before even asking for hosting. I suppose it could be possible at Waterloo when enough members make it here. Though even then we'd have to locate a dedicated box to run.

Author:  Token [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:10 pm ]
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Tony wrote:
I don't believe those are planned downtowns


Hah, downtowns, all of the sudden the movie Without a Paddle comes to mind. I plan to go to Waterloo, I'm really trying to do good this year and get good grades. Is it hard to get in? what were ur marks when you were accepted?

Author:  [Gandalf] [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:24 pm ]
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DAMN! Evil or Very Mad

We should really have backups more often. I might be willing to do one, but I'm not sure I know how to set something automatic up, and I'm not sure if I would be able to.

Next time I know that when the site is down for 4+ hours it's a rollback Sad.

Author:  ZeroPaladn [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:31 pm ]
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youve just got to wonder how much space it would take to back up ALL of the files on Compsci.ca. Good luck with that.

Author:  [Gandalf] [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:48 pm ]
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I heard it was around 1gb? And that's with a bunch of stuff that isn't directly related to compsci. It might have been 4, but either way it's not overly that much...

Author:  Martin [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:49 pm ]
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If anyone were to collaborate to pay for compsci, it'd be the admins. There are too many issues with collecting money online from the userbase. If you want to contribute, post things or bash Apple.

Author:  beard0 [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:15 pm ]
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Martin wrote:
or bash Apple.

Haha, trying to spread the flame war to another thread are we?

Author:  rizzix [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:16 pm ]
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psst. c'mon.. can't you read his title... Wink

Author:  wtd [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:20 pm ]
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MAC people r ghay!!!!11!1

Author:  rizzix [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:22 pm ]
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rofl.. martin!!!

Author:  beard0 [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:24 pm ]
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wtd wrote:
MAC people r ghay!!!!11!1

Someone I respect wrote:
Wow. That was so insightful.

Thank you for making me see the light. Apple has never done anything interesting and there certainly has never been anything interesting done with Apple software and hardware by third parties.


Wink

Author:  Token [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:31 pm ]
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The funny thing is that these people that bash Macs (most of them anyways) have probibly never used a Mac, and by used I don't mean spent a half hour cursing at the mouse, but actually spent hours working on one. they're really actually quite good once you get used to working with them. Although a some programs can't run on them, they're being made much more compadable and efficent as time goes by.

Quote:
Apple has never done anything interesting and


I'd imagine that was sarcasm, but just one word... iPod

Author:  wtd [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:32 pm ]
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I dont no why MAC even keeps making crapple computers. i shouldn't even call them computers... They dont even use teh RAMS.

Author:  rizzix [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:34 pm ]
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thats too 733T for /\/\3 Mr. Green

Author:  beard0 [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:34 pm ]
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Token wrote:
Quote:
Apple has never done anything interesting and

I'd imagine that was sarcasm, but just one word... iPod


It was definately sarcasm, and the person that wrote it was wtd Laughing

Author:  rizzix [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:44 pm ]
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random_quote:
Tech Support: "OK Bob, let's press the control and escape keys at the same time. That brings up a task list in the middle of the screen. Now type the letter 'P' to bring up the Program Manager."
Customer: "I don't have a 'P'."
Tech Support: "On your keyboard, Bob."
Customer: "What do you mean?"
Tech Support: "'P' on your keyboard, Bob."
Customer: "I'm not going to do that!"

Author:  wtd [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:46 pm ]
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Token wrote:
iPod


Ipods suck!

They dont eevn come with an FM tuner. I cant listen to teh top 40 with orignal static!!!

and you can only put music on from crappy Itunes music shack! Why should I pay 99 cents a song for muzik i already have on cd?

Author:  Mr. T [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Alex's Opinion

wtd wrote:
Token wrote:
iPod
Why should I pay 99 cents a song for muzik i already have on cd?

It's part of being up-to-date with all the newest technology. Confused

Author:  rizzix [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:52 pm ]
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Quote:
MAC people r ghay!!!!11!1


Quote:
I dont no why MAC even keeps making crapple computers. i shouldn't even call them computers... They dont even use teh RAMS.


Quote:
Ipods suck!

They dont eevn come with an FM tuner. I cant listen to teh top 40 with orignal static!!!

and you can only put music on from crappy Itunes music shack! Why should I pay 99 cents a song for muzik i already have on cd?



C|net Article

damn.. what were they studying.. Razz Laughing

Author:  wtd [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Alex's Opinion

Pwned wrote:
wtd wrote:
Token wrote:
iPod
Why should I pay 99 cents a song for muzik i already have on cd?

It's part of being up-to-date with all the newest technology. Confused


I was being sarcastic.

I was pointing out the misconception many people have that you can only put iTMS music on the iPod. In fact, you can use music from many sources, and in many formats. Certainly you can load music ripped from a CD onto an iPod and listen to it.

Author:  Token [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:11 pm ]
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Hah, I never said that iPods are the very best, but they are one of the top selling mp3 devices, and WTD is right, you can upload music from other sources, if you had to pay 99cents per song they wouldent be so goddamn expensive. I personally just use my cd walkman, disks CD-R's are about 30cents if you buy them in bulk and they work just fine for me.

okay lets try somthing, next time you bash mac, post how many hours you've spent on a mac, I've spent maybe over 30 hours on the macs at school, and personally I dont like them as much as my pc but they are very nice machines. I'm just curious how many of you are just blowing smoke. but I guess Ignorance is bliss Laughing

Author:  wtd [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:14 pm ]
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Token wrote:
they are one of the top selling mp3 devices


They are the best selling portable music playing device.

Author:  rizzix [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:08 am ]
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Token wrote:
okay lets try somthing, next time you bash mac, post how many hours you've spent on a mac, I've spent maybe over 30 hours on the macs at school, and personally I dont like them as much as my pc but they are very nice machines. I'm just curious how many of you are just blowing smoke. but I guess Ignorance is bliss Laughing


In total, I've spent a couple of years now.. 6 i think.. and i love them. IMHO it pwns the pc anyday... (once you get used to it, you'd never want to switch back, well except to play some games)

Author:  StarGateSG-1 [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:23 am ]
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I think anyone who bashes apples is nothing, I agree with token you are spewing smoke, and have most likely never used for for longer than to get mad at it over the start. I used apples for every, although I like gaming so I have windows computer as well, but when it comes to graphics and video editing I can't beat a MAC. I have never had a problem that I didn't create myself. On the other hand windows gives me so much trouble. you can get emulators for MAC's but they aren't good. The MAC help is sooooooooooo good! they walk you through so nicely, even my dad can work on one easy.

Author:  Tony [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:13 am ]
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hey, maybe we can through in some statistics in here. Everybody's favourite "anything" analizer -- Google's "love/hate" searches. Here's how it works: search for "I love <subject>" and then "I hate <subject>" and compare the results.

subject | love | hate | L/H ratio
windows : 26,100 : 45,500 : 0.57
linux : 58,700 : 20,800 : 2.82
mac : 63,300 : 10,100 : 6.26

now don't go searching for "apple", though it's still better than windows Laughing
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Games -- Macs satisfy my gaming requirements. All Blizzard games (StarCraft, Diablo II, World of Warcraft), Unreal Tournament. There're many others. Besides the games I play most are best played in an arcade or on a console (DDR anyone?)
______________________

The only substantial argument against Macs is that there's no OSX native AutoCAD. Oh wait, Maya runs on OSX (and linux for that matter)
Laughing

Author:  codemage [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:07 pm ]
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Well... this is almost out of context at this point, so I'll segue with:

Ipods are ridiculously overpriced, and I hate them fiercely because I don't have one.

...and now the segue back to the original thread subject...

Just like I haven't had a login again, since every time I've registered for the site, I've been erased by a rollback. Crying or Very sad

...I now return you to your thread-in-progress: Ipods suck.

Author:  Tony [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:22 pm ]
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codemage wrote:
...I now return you to your thread-in-progress: Ipods suck.

Way to make an argument.

codemage wrote:

Ipods are ridiculously overpriced

You're trying too hard to be funny. At $129, Shuffle is one of the cheapest MP3 players out there in its class. Actually I think that every iPod (other than Nano perhaps) are very compeditavly priced in their respective configuration levels.

Author:  StarGateSG-1 [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:24 pm ]
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I speak for aleast me and maybe others?

BUT HuH!!

What do you mean?

Author:  codemage [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:54 pm ]
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It's been a bit of a long day for me to be picky about word choice, so I'll concede the point: shuffles aren't "ridiculously overpriced". They're just seriously underfeatured. For the same price you can get a player (pick your alternative brand) with the same storage, a screen, and actual track navigation.

Author:  rizzix [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:55 pm ]
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..and same size?

Author:  codemage [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:01 pm ]
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Same.

Check FutureShop, for example. (I've masked the links in case the admin prefer not to have links to external commercial sites - replace the "xx" in hxxp with a copy & paste).

Creative Labs MuVo
hxxp://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10052802&catid=10205&logon=&langid=EN

Shuffle
hxxp://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10056434&catid=22353&logon=&langid=EN

Same exact price and MB size. The product from Creative is superior in almost every single other category.

Author:  rizzix [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:10 pm ]
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i dunno but..

ipod shuffle wrote:
supported formats = AAC (16 to 320 Kbps), Protected AAC (from iTunes Music Store), MP3 (16 to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, Audible (formats 2, 3 and 4), Apple Lossless, AIFF and WAV (and non-DRMed WMA)

weight = 22.1g

supported OS's= Win2000/XP/Mac OS X ver.(1,2,3,4)/Linux


versus.

Creative Labs MuVo 512MB MP3 Player (TX FM) wrote:
supported formats = just MP3, WMA

weight = 80g

supporte OS's = Win98SE/2000/Me/XP only


is not a very good comparison of features..

Author:  wtd [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:14 pm ]
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rizzix, you should add non-DRMed WMA to the Shuffle's capabilities, since iTunes can convert WMA to AAC.

Author:  Mazer [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:21 pm ]
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rizzix wrote:
ipod shuffle wrote:
supported OS's= Win2000/XP/Mac OS X ver.(1,2,3,4)/Linux

Creative Labs MuVo 512MB MP3 Player (TX FM) wrote:
supporte OS's = Win98SE/2000/Me/XP only


Why bother comparing this? According to the technical geniuses that made my optical mouse, it only works with Windows98/ME/2000/XP.

Author:  rizzix [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:22 pm ]
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ehm... i'm confused.. what do you mean.

Author:  Mazer [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:09 pm ]
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For something like that, it's generally pointless to compare what OSs support it. Most mice you find will say Microsoft Windows is required, even though most well known Operating Systems can use it just fine. Same for portable MP3 players, right?

Author:  rizzix [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:11 pm ]
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actually i don't think so.. you need special driver support... unless ofcourse the mp3 player can act like a usb drive..

Author:  Mazer [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:14 pm ]
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But isn't that what most of them do? It seems like the easiest way they would make it, since it would mean the player shows up as a removable drive in Windows Explorer and people could just drag and drop their music.

Author:  Token [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:14 pm ]
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as far as i've seen most all of them do.

Author:  Mazer [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:17 pm ]
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Yeah, I've only got three different player's upon which to base my assumption, but "Anything else would be uncivilized."

Author:  rizzix [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:21 pm ]
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well then.. my mistake.. i should have know.

Author:  Dan [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:28 pm ]
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Any how, geting back to the topic.

Switching hosts has been sugested many times but it is alot more work then any one realzies. 1st we need to find a good host, now lets define a "good host"

1. Not your firends hosting comapy witch he runs out of his basment

2. Not you or your firends computer or pc that can atack as a host

3. Not a univiresty or school hosting service

4. Not cheap hosts that will disapre over night, ie. most free ones

5. Nothing with adds

6. At least 4GB space

7. At least 25GB bandwith a month

8. php, mysql, full ftp, cpanle is helpfull, phpmyadmin, ect

9. unix or linux based, no windows, maybe mac

10. has to alow up to 50 users at a time

11. at least basick contorles over the unix system it is runing on, ie cron jobs, access controles, ip bans.

12. unlmited emails

13. unlmited redirects

14. unlmisted databases in mysql

15. ruby on rails suport or the power to put it in whould be a very big pluse.

16. there rules have to alow for a site like ours in all ways

17. Good coustmer support at all times and dates

18. Good security

19. Has to be fast, in processing and in conection speed

20. located in canada, on whould be perfureable


Now if we can find a host that meants all thos, then i will put the effort in to move the site, witch is a tone of work aucatly due to the size of the db.

Author:  Tony [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:31 pm ]
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why do we need 4GB of space?

Author:  Dan [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:32 pm ]
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i am thinking of futtuer expansion, all thos user posted files are not going to get smaller just bigger...

Author:  Mazer [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:33 pm ]
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I haven't really got anything useful to contribute here, but I'm just curious: how much of that list is covered by the current host?

Also, around how much space is taken up by all of the posts and users in the database (not counting any file attachments)?

Author:  Tony [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:35 pm ]
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TextDrive covers everything but 4GB space. I dont think we need that much.

Our database is 100MB in size.

I have a hunch that compiled turing uploads make up a bulk next to Dan's uploads.

Author:  Dan [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:37 pm ]
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the bold ones are covered by the curent host:

1. Not your firends hosting comapy witch he runs out of his basment

2. Not you or your firends computer or pc that can atack as a host

3. Not a univiresty or school hosting service

4. Not cheap hosts that will disapre over night, ie. most free ones

5. Nothing with adds

6. At least 4GB space (it is not 4GB but could be upgreated to witch i am thinking about)


7. At least 25GB bandwith a month (or at least it is close to this)

8. php, mysql, full ftp, cpanle is helpfull, phpmyadmin, ect

9. unix or linux based, no windows, maybe mac

10. has to alow up to 50 users at a time

11. at least basick contorles over the unix system it is runing on, ie cron jobs, access controles, ip bans.

12. unlmited emails

13. unlmited redirects

14. unlmisted databases in mysql


15. ruby on rails suport or the power to put it in whould be a very big pluse.

16. there rules have to alow for a site like ours in all ways

17. Good coustmer support at all times and dates

18. Good security (could be deatable but most seucity problems were due to phpbb)

19. Has to be fast, in processing and in conection speed

20. located in canada, on whould be perfureable


I will look up the other data u asked for........

Author:  Mazer [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:43 pm ]
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Alright, thanks. One more thing (I know I've asked this before, but... I'm getting old, damnit!), what was so wrong about it being hosted on University servers? I always thought it'd be safe to assume they'd be pretty reliable, would probably have lots of space, and bandwidth shouldn't be an issue. As an added bonus, if you needed to talk to them about something, you could do so in person as opposed to sending an email or waiting for them to answer a phone call.

Author:  Dan [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:47 pm ]
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Tony wrote:
TextDrive covers everything but 4GB space. I dont think we need that much.

Our database is 100MB in size.

I have a hunch that compiled turing uploads make up a bulk next to Dan's uploads.


Realy? well unforntly that 4gb is a big one on the list, i will look in to them if u can give me a link.

Also for the recored my files only take up 348mb, and they inculde files or parts of the site and for other users on the site then just me. Also they inculded files that are runing other sites and serivces for not just site but some of our afflites and partnerships.

the user files uploaded throw phpbb take up 320mb, the mail system is using 295.70mb, our log files take up 80mb, there is about another 100~200mb in scripts, images and such that are runing the site, the user posts (when gziped as they are in the db) take up 104.1 MB. But there are other dbs and stuff that take up more space in mysql.

Author:  Andy [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:49 pm ]
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back onto mp3 players.. i currently own the new sony NWE507-S, the one with OLE.. its beautiful, i noe that its heavy as hell, but the screen is just too damn attractive. I dont mind an ipod shuffle, but i really wanted an fm tuner in my player, and i didnt want to get a hard drive player because i use it when i work out and i dont like to hear remixes of my songs everytime i run. Also, it has an lithium Ion battery that lasts up to 50 hours.. i usually get around 35 for about an hour and half of charge. the only bad thing is it wont allow direct encoding... and u have to use sonic stage to transfer files... Evil or Very Mad

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Author:  Dan [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:51 pm ]
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Coutsos wrote:
Alright, thanks. One more thing (I know I've asked this before, but... I'm getting old, damnit!), what was so wrong about it being hosted on University servers? I always thought it'd be safe to assume they'd be pretty reliable, would probably have lots of space, and bandwidth shouldn't be an issue. As an added bonus, if you needed to talk to them about something, you could do so in person as opposed to sending an email or waiting for them to answer a phone call.


1. they can termiante serivce at any time with out warning

2. if u get kicked out of uni or finshed uni your acount is terminated, some times instatly with out warning.

3. most unis aucatly do not give u that much space nor the php and mysql suport we need. Also they ushely cap bandwith or just shut u down when u hit so much.

also breaks thess rules i posted: 3, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 and maybe 19, 17, 4 depending on how u see it

Author:  Dan [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:09 pm ]
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I found a host that i think i like and we maybe chaging to if the borad agreas with me on this. It compleys to my guild lines other then 15 and 20.

The satas are:

Disk Space/Bandwidth

* Unlimited Storage Space
* 50 GB of Bandwidth


Domain Name

* Unlimited Sub Domains
* Unlimited Parked Domains


Site Management Tools

* Control Panel
* Site Builder
* 24x7 FTP Access
* FrontPage® Extensions
* Online File Manager
* Web Mail
* Custom Error Pages
* Hot Link Protection


Free Software/Scripts

* 50+ Installed Scripts -New!
* Guestbook
* Bulletin Boards
* Form Mail
* Counter
* Blogging Software
* Shopping Carts
* Complete List


Security Features

* SSL Server
* Password Protected Directories


Fanatical Support Team

* 24x7 Online Support
* Telephone Support
* Simple Flash Tutorials
* Simple Documentation


Email Services

* Unlimited Email Accounts
* Unlimited Forwarding
* Unlimited Email Aaliases
* Catch-all Default Account
* Unlimited Mailing Lists
* Unlimited Autoresponders
* Spam Protection


E-commerce Ready

* Shopping Cart
* SSL Certs
* Your own CGI-BIN
* Detailed Web Statistics
* Free Search Engine Submission


Programming/Database Software

* Perl
* PHP
* MySQL
* Python
* SSI
* HTML
* Flash


Network/Data Center

* Unix/Linux Servers
* Multiple OC-3 Connections
* Apache Webserver
* Cisco Switches and Routers
* Battery Backup (UPS)
* Diesel Backup Generator
* Redundant HVAC system
* Video camera surveillance
* 24x7 Network Monitoring
* 24x7 Server Monitoring
* Weekly/Monthly Backups
* 99.9% uptime

Author:  Token [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:46 pm ]
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woah, that sounds really great, what are the drawbacks?

Author:  [Gandalf] [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:51 pm ]
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Yeah, it seems good, bit would it allow the same flexability that we have now? Modifying everything, etc? It would suck to lose some features to gain others.

For storage space, I am sure that there are many pointless uploads, and if really needed, much of that could be eliminated. The problem is filtering it all out.

Author:  rdrake [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:24 pm ]
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I've been very happy being hosted by A Small Orange.

They feature:
  • Unlimited POP3/IMAP Mail Accounts
  • Unlimited MySQL Databases
  • Unlimited Mailing Lists
  • Unlimited Email Forwarders
  • Unlimited Subdomains
  • Unlimited Parked and Addon Domains
  • Unlimited FTP Accounts
  • SSH Access
  • Ruby support
  • Cpanel
  • Fantastico
  • etc.

Author:  1of42 [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:06 pm ]
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Going with the MP3 player theme - would the iPod Nano show up as a removable drive under Windows Explorer?

Author:  Dan [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:17 pm ]
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[Gandalf] wrote:
Yeah, it seems good, bit would it allow the same flexability that we have now? Modifying everything, etc? It would suck to lose some features to gain others.

For storage space, I am sure that there are many pointless uploads, and if really needed, much of that could be eliminated. The problem is filtering it all out.


Same features and some more in that respect.......

What are the size specks for A Small orange?

Author:  rdrake [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:25 pm ]
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Hacker Dan wrote:
What are the size specks for A Small orange?

Virtual Hosting:
  • Plan - Space - Bandwidth - Price
  • Tiny - 75 MB - 3 GB - $30/year
  • Small - 400 MB - 10GB - $5/month
  • Medium - 1000 MB - 25 GB - $10/month
  • Large - 2500 MB - 60 GB - $20/month
  • Super - 4500 MB - 100 GB - #30/month

They also have very fast support which will answer your question in 1 - 15 minutes. The prices I've listed are in USD.

In order to use Ruby on Rails, you'll need to request SSH access which can easily be done by e-mailing their support with what server you're on and your username.

Author:  brenn [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:05 pm ]
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Token wrote:
I plan to go to Waterloo, I'm really trying to do good this year and get good grades. Is it hard to get in? what were ur marks when you were accepted?


< 90. But I'm female. They are striving for an equal gender representation.

Author:  Boo-chan [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:14 pm ]
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From an engineering perspective, I believe they have a long way to go in this respect.

Author:  wtd [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:24 pm ]
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Nevermind

Author:  brenn [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:51 pm ]
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Boo-chan wrote:
From an engineering perspective, I believe they have a long way to go in this respect.


Yeah... I mean, our (former) class just lost 6% of the female population. I suppose tho, that MTE 2010 just gained like... 4- 10%.

Author:  lyam_kaskade [ Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:01 am ]
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Token wrote:

I plan to go to Waterloo, I'm really trying to do good this year and get good grades. Is it hard to get in? what were ur marks when you were accepted?


Don't worry about it too much. I had an 88 and somehow got into Mechatronics (which I think has the second highest admission average this year, after NanoTech). I think it's gone down significantly since the double cohort.

brenn wrote:

Yeah... I mean, our (former) class just lost 6% of the female population. I suppose tho, that MTE 2010 just gained like... 4- 10%.


I think there's about...8? maybe 9. But then, it is Mechatronics. Chemical/Environmental/Civil are often close to 40% female. I'm not sure what it is about mechanical and electrical that alot of girls aren't interested in...

Back on topic: If compsci.ca were part of a club at a university, then it wouldn't necessarily be discontinued if someone is kicked out.
Although I have issues with administration at UW, as well as the way they do websites (Jobmine, for example).
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Author:  Tony [ Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:25 am ]
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brenn wrote:
I suppose tho, that MTE 2010 just gained like... 4- 10%.

Too bad they don't get to enjoy that 10% to the full extend. Unless there will be sharing involved Wink

Back on topic -- If Dan is so against TextDrive, A Small orange will be my second choice.

Author:  Tony [ Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:27 am ]
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lyam_kaskade wrote:
Although I have issues with administration at UW, as well as the way they do websites (Jobmine, for example).

We don't actually make JobMine, but license the development elsewhere to PeopleSoft. It is kind of sketchy.

Talk to me about your issues in private and I'll see what I can bring up to the higher-ups.

Author:  codemage [ Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:58 am ]
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I was accepted to CS @ UW with roughly an 85%. That was 'back in the day' though. I recall that most classes were close to, but under 10% female.

It's roughly the same at the college where I teach.

Author:  MihaiG [ Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:12 am ]
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meh.... i plan to go in the us..... first i hve to study for those aronym tests
SAT,etc.

Author:  Tony [ Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:53 am ]
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codemage wrote:
I was accepted to CS @ UW with roughly an 85%. That was 'back in the day' though. I recall that most classes were close to, but under 10% female.

It's roughly the same at the college where I teach.


Should this thread be renamed to downtime+roll back+lack_of_girls ?

What do you teach at that college?

Author:  codemage [ Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:48 am ]
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Should this thread be renamed to downtime+roll back+lack_of_girls ?

+hosting requirements +apple bashing +bashing apple bashers...

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What do you teach at that college?


History, and two courses roughly equivalent to grade 11 computer programming & applications, respectively.

Author:  Dan [ Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:06 am ]
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Tony wrote:

Back on topic -- If Dan is so against TextDrive, A Small orange will be my second choice.


I don't like A Small orange any more then i like TextDrive......

Author:  Tony [ Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:24 am ]
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Hacker Dan wrote:
I don't like A Small orange any more then i like TextDrive......

TextDrive it is then! Laughing

codemage -- any comments on teaching Ruby? Please give some insighn on that discussion Smile

Author:  Dan [ Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:38 pm ]
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If u whont i can find a host that will suport ruby on rails, but it will not be an over priced one with no space.........

Author:  Tony [ Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:22 pm ]
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Hacker Dan wrote:
but it will not be an over priced one with no space.........

It's not overpriced. You get what you pay for.

Author:  Dan [ Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:50 pm ]
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I am liking dreamhost, there services look good quality to me.

Author:  Amailer [ Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:06 pm ]
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Wow the dreamhost plans are crazy- but expensive no? (well only for the first month (for hte month to month payments) but then I guess its pretty alright)
Though it seems/looks better then Small Orange.

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You are talking about this right?

Author:  Dan [ Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:05 am ]
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Amailer wrote:

[edit]
You are talking about this right?


Yes

Author:  brenn [ Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:09 pm ]
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Psst... Tony, stop trying to convince Dan. More resources for MAP Very Happy


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