Computer Science Canada MS University of Calgary |
| Author: | Robinking [ Mon May 26, 2008 7:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | MS University of Calgary |
Hi all, I have a plan to do my MS in canada. Is it good to do it in university of calgary. I also have a dilema in selecting my specialisation. I'm bit weak in math. Would it a best for me to get on with MS in Software Engineering(course based, since i wish to get on with a job after my MS)?. I'm from India. If possible kindly give me details on the stay in calgary n other details...... Also if SE is best for me then kindly say me the topics it cover during the course:idea:.............. Mod edit: Please don't use the bold tags on an entire post. If you need to emphasise something go nuts, but don't emphasise everything. Merci. |
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| Author: | Dan [ Mon May 26, 2008 2:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
We whould need to know more about you and what you are looking for out of your education to give you ideas and options about calgary and/or software engineering for you. What is your undergrad in and what do you want to get a job doing affter you graduate? |
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| Author: | Robinking [ Mon May 26, 2008 9:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MS University of Calgary |
I'm a final year(4th year) student doing my B.Eng in computer science in INDIA. I wish to get in to a job of type software developer r designer. But i think SE would put me in less trouble without the involving most of the math  .
Which am i to choose now(in my specialisation)? |
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| Author: | Robinking [ Mon May 26, 2008 9:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MS University of Calgary |
Also suggest me with other universities too for my kind of person...........n kindly explain me what is Co-op Education type? |
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| Author: | PaulButler [ Mon May 26, 2008 10:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MS University of Calgary |
Co-op is a program where you have to work a certain number of terms doing a real job related to your field. It's a good program, but I don't think it applies to you if you are doing an MS. |
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| Author: | Dan [ Tue May 27, 2008 9:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
Well if you are comnig from an enginering background and want to get in to software development with out alot of math (or as much math) then Software Engineering is probly not a bad bet. Also they do have co-op programs for masters witch might be a good option if you are doing a corues work only masters and want to get a job right affter. Basicly in co-op it takes longer to get your degree but for some terms you work at a postion adgred apon by your university (and noramly have to write some reports about it). Co-op gives you work expeience and contacts for when you graduate witch can help you get a job faster. |
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| Author: | Robinking [ Tue May 27, 2008 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MS University of Calgary |
Thank u don n can u xplain me abt the subjects that MS SE consist of..............so that i can make them little known to me byt the mean time i join the course......... is there any special fee for co-op......will we have to look for the companies for co-op r does the university has some colabration with some the companies............ |
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| Author: | Tony [ Tue May 27, 2008 3:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
There usually is a co-op fee, but that depends on the University. University's "collaborate" to the extend that they advertise their students as viable employees for the duration of work-terms, and encourage company's to post a listing and conduct interviews. Though there is never an obligation to hire anyone. Co-op jobs are a lot like... jobs. It's more of a system of study where you take time off school and work. |
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| Author: | PaulButler [ Tue May 27, 2008 10:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
Dan, thanks for clearing that up, I didn't realize there was a co-op option for MS. As Tony said, there is a fee, but the jobs are generally paid, so the fee is not as much of an issue. |
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| Author: | Robinking [ Wed May 28, 2008 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MS University of Calgary |
Thanks to all for ur infos yaar. [b]And still no one explained me abt the subjects involved in the MS Software Engineering...............[/b] |
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| Author: | jernst [ Wed May 28, 2008 10:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MS University of Calgary |
The subjects would be dependent on the university and the prof you would studying under, you can usually find that sort of thing out by looking at the professors webpages and checking out their research interests |
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| Author: | Robinking [ Wed May 28, 2008 10:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MS University of Calgary |
But i as for the Course based course. Will not the course based courses have some regular subject with them? |
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| Author: | jernst [ Wed May 28, 2008 10:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MS University of Calgary |
http://www.enel.ucalgary.ca/graduate/graduate-courses |
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| Author: | Prabhakar Ragde [ Wed May 28, 2008 3:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
This whole discussion confuses me. Calgary does not offer a course-based Master's in SE, only a thesis-based one, as far as I can tell. And there is no mention of co-op. --PR |
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| Author: | Robinking [ Wed May 28, 2008 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MS University of Calgary |
This link would make u clear i hope RADGE. UofC offers Course based Msc in Software Engineering. But i'm not sure of the Co-op. http://www.grad.ucalgary.ca//programs |
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| Author: | Prabhakar Ragde [ Wed May 28, 2008 9:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MS University of Calgary |
Well, this link says you can't do it in computer science, but that the M.Sc in Software Engineering is offered jointly with Electrical and Computer Engineering. Looking at that department, it also talks about a thesis-based M.Sc. There is a M.Eng, coursework only, but no financial aid and no specialization in Software Engineering mentioned. You should check that the link you posted has current information, because the departments don't seem to advertise the coursework M.Sc in SE. |
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| Author: | jernst [ Thu May 29, 2008 6:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MS University of Calgary |
I was also confused by the lack of a course based msc just was waiting for someone else to say it in case i missed it somewhere lol  |
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| Author: | Robinking [ Fri May 30, 2008 9:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MS University of Calgary |
What abt the staying in calgary? Can any one say abt the cost of living there. And if possible can anyone say abt the normal expenses for a month with internet connection for the stay there. |
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| Author: | Robinking [ Fri May 30, 2008 10:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MS University of Calgary |
is there any difference in doing Msc. SE(course based) in Electrical n Computerscience Dept. compared to doing it in CS dept.(if available) Also kindly get me a list of universities(with consideralbe financial aid) offering MSc. SE (course based). |
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| Author: | Tony [ Fri May 30, 2008 10:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
you could get a list of Universities from Wikipedia 
Though you'd probably have to check for the availability of a specific program yourself. |
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| Author: | rizzix [ Fri May 30, 2008 10:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
But really, it's all about the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_Thirteen_(Canadian_universities) I had no idea such a group existed. Heh. |
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| Author: | Tony [ Fri May 30, 2008 10:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
Not too many surprises about the members though. |
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| Author: | Dan [ Sat May 31, 2008 1:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
"The factual accuracy of this article is disputed." Need i say more? |
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| Author: | rizzix [ Sat May 31, 2008 1:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
You need not. However Dan, how good is Lakehead when it comes to Graduate Studies/Research? |
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| Author: | Dan [ Sat May 31, 2008 1:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
Bring my university in to it becues the debater goeses there is a logical faclity but i will play along. (if infact that is what you where doing, if it was just a casul question i am sorry for the hostility) Lakehead's endualment acording to wikipeida is $30.6 million and acording to wikipedia it has 7,644 students (undgrad + other). So the edualment per student is $4003.14 unless my math is off (witch it might be as it is late). Acording to the page it would place it in 11th place on that page. Witch just goes to show how messed up that page is rather then anything about lakehead (or my math is when sleepy). Now lakehead is an undergratue university witch means rating it by gradatue students simply does not make sence. But for undergradaute reasearch lakehead has won awards and come out on top in canada for undergratue research. source: "In October 2006, Lakehead University was named 'Research University Of The Year' (Undergraduate Category) by Research Infosource, achieving No.1 rank for both research income growth in Canada, and research intensity in its category." [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakehead_University ]( http://www.researchinfosource.com/media/2006RUY-UndergraduateAnalysis.pdf ) Also lakehead just got $957,081 in new SSHRC Grants ( http://communications.lakeheadu.ca/news/?display=news&nid=458 ) and $2,425,837 in NSERC Funding ( http://communications.lakeheadu.ca/news/?display=news&nid=457 ). Eidt: Please note that i am not trying to use the above to say lakehaed is better then any other universtiy, just that the wikipedia artical is in error and the stats are meaningless or can be manuplidated easly to say anything. |
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| Author: | rizzix [ Sat May 31, 2008 1:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
Yea I've heard of Lakehead being excellent for undergrad. However, I was just wondering about its graduate studies. This is because the only ones that struck me as good candidate for Graduate studies (in Canada) were all listed in the Group of Thirteen.
So yea, I was hoping you could give some insight into the kind of stuff Lakehead does for Grad and Post-grad. |
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| Author: | Dan [ Sat May 31, 2008 1:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
Well althought it is not the main focuses of lakehead they do have graduate studys but to a lesser extent. For the computer sci deperament there are about 12 grad student spaces per year. They offer both cores based and thesies based masters and what you would be doing greatly depends on what proforser your supvirosor is and what your thesies topic is. Lakehead does not have many phd level programs other then ones it spesies in like forestry so you would probly have to go some where eltes if you want to go past the masters level there. Persoanly i am intrested in gradtuate studys at university of toronto but taking my masters at lakehead would hardly be a bad thing. |
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| Author: | rizzix [ Sat May 31, 2008 1:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
That's informative, thanks. |
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| Author: | Dan [ Sat May 31, 2008 2:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
Also a fun CRC/CompSci.ca fact: My dad's a canada research chair in water quality protection at waterloo. Witch makes it kind of funny that i am aruging agisted the imporentece of the group of thirteen. |
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| Author: | Robinking [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MS University of Calgary |
Robinking @ Sat May 31, 2008 8:35 am wrote: is there any difference in doing Msc. SE(course based) in Electrical n Computerscience Dept. compared to doing it in CS dept.(if available)
I didn't get answers to this question.  |
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| Author: | Dan [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
Well one you get a masters in engnering and one is a masters in science (computer sicnence). So the diffrences would be the same as the diffrences between electrical engerning and computer science. |
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| Author: | rizzix [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
Dan: Hey now. It's not. While Computer Eng and Electrical Eng might be similar. Software Eng is much different from Electrical. How similar is Software Eng and CompSci at the masters level? I have no idea. I could take a wild guess that Software Engineering would be similar to Systems Engineering - with a ComSci twist. I know what CompSci is like at the masters level. And there can be LOT of math involved
Edit: All engineering involves a lot of math. So really you're looking at a math-math situation. However Engineering math can be more applied than theoretical, but this is not always true. |
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| Author: | Robinking [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MS University of Calgary |
"SE will be the same always n only the banner under which it is offered varies. Even in UofC only the Electrical and Computer Engineering dept offers Msc. SE (course based). This would be same as the SE offerec by Compsci Dept. " - I guess |
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| Author: | Tony [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RE:MS University of Calgary |
rizzix @ Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:17 pm wrote: All engineering involves a lot of math. So really you're looking at a math-math situation. However Engineering math can be more applied than theoretical, but this is not always true.
Having done both Engineering and CS Math (albeit at an intro level), I can confirm that Engineering is more on the applied side of things (solve equations to calculate required forces), while CS Math is more abstract (such as various proofs). Though obviously there's some overlap, which will likely be great in Software Engineering, as there are less physical forces involved. Think computation of lower/upper bounds of complexities. |
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| Author: | rizzix [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
Yes but Tony you'd have to keep in mind that at the Masters' level almost anything can shoot off into the theoretical world. However, yes, this could be less likely with a course-based program. Btw, we did a bit on complexities in one of our courses in electrical eng. Its important not only for algorithms but also for digital circuits. |
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| Author: | Dan [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RE:MS University of Calgary |
rizzix @ 1st June 2008, 9:17 pm wrote: Dan: Hey now. It's not. While Computer Eng and Electrical Eng might be similar. Software Eng is much different from Electrical.
My interpation of the question was electrical eng vs computer sci at masters level, so i did not mean to side anything about computer enginering or software enginering or any kind of comparsion between any inter engeringer programs.... |
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| Author: | Robinking [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MS University of Calgary |
how abt the scope for JOB when done under Electrical n COmputer Engineering dept......? |
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| Author: | Robinking [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MS University of Calgary |
How abt the placements and Scope of JOB after Msc. SE in university of calgary? Especially how abt the placements in UofC? |
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| Author: | Tony [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:MS University of Calgary |
There are no "placements" for jobs. You research who is hiring. You send in your resume. If it's good, you have an interview. If you are the best candidate for the job, you get hired. That being said, a University degree does not necessary guarantee anything. |
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| Author: | Robinking [ Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MS University of Calgary |
Is this the same for all the universities in canada? i.e no campus interviews will be conducted for the PG courses in canadian varsities? |
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