re-use of code, mainly polymorphism, and the power of OOP, after all objects makes Java
Computer Science Canada The Java Introduction: what's needed/wanted? |
| Author: | wtd [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | The Java Introduction: what's needed/wanted? |
So, a thread devoted to nothing but suggestions on improving the Introduction to Java. All suggestions are welcome. Inane ones will be ridiculed. |
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| Author: | Nick [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:The Java Introduction: what\'s needed/wanted? |
I'd like to see more about Frames/JFrames and what can be done with them, and more about Swing and it's components |
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| Author: | wtd [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:The Java Introduction: what\'s needed/wanted? |
Swing is a big topic, and not integral to the language, which is why I've stayed away from that. |
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| Author: | rdrake [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:The Java Introduction: what\'s needed/wanted? |
Perhaps some sort of comparison of Turing to Java. I could even write a tutorial if somebody gives me something to write it on. |
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| Author: | Nick [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RE:The Java Introduction: what\'s needed/wanted? |
rdrake @ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:13 am wrote: Perhaps some sort of comparison of Turing to Java. I could even write a tutorial if somebody gives me something to write it on.
interesting you mention that, Holtsoft has a very crude, not well done chart on the subject, maybe you could redo it. Lemme find it EDIT: www.holtsoft.com/java/resources/turing_to_java.pdf |
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| Author: | HeavenAgain [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:The Java Introduction: what\'s needed/wanted? |
re-use of code, mainly polymorphism, and the power of OOP, after all objects makes Java |
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| Author: | r691175002 [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Java Introduction: what's needed/wanted? |
I think that OOP theory and usefulness, perhaps even design patterns should get a mention because OOP is so fundamental to Java. It is a hard concept to grasp at first, and doesn't immediately seem useful so it will be hard to impart to a new programmer. I may also throw in a bit about Javadocs and how to take advantage of them, since I think that good documentation is key to being effective in a language with so many built in libraries. |
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| Author: | [Gandalf] [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:The Java Introduction: what\'s needed/wanted? |
Perhaps some more about generics. |
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| Author: | rizzix [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Java Introduction: what's needed/wanted? |
Yes wtd, some discussion on design patterns would be ideal 
Gandalf: Anything in particular? I think he covered quite a bit in fair detail. Edit: However, after second thoughts, I don't think this is suited for an "introduction" to Java. Maybe a separate "intermediate java" tutorial, or so. |
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| Author: | rizzix [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Java Introduction: what's needed/wanted? |
r691175002 @ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:26 am wrote: I may also throw in a bit about Javadocs and how to take advantage of them, I think this is very important. I'm sure wtd agrees with this. I second this, btw. |
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| Author: | Nick [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Java Introduction: what's needed/wanted? |
r691175002 @ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:26 am wrote: may also throw in a bit about Javadocs and how to take advantage of them, since I think that good documentation is key to being effective in a language with so many built in libraries.
before I had no idea how to use Javadocs, I even bashed it on IRC, then recently I took another look and found them extremely helpful, it's a great idea for a tutorial on how to use |
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| Author: | shadowman544 [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:The Java Introduction: what\'s needed/wanted? |
he does not lie he had this argument with me for like 2 weeks at the beginning of the semester |
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| Author: | andrew. [ Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:The Java Introduction: what\'s needed/wanted? |
I'm going to try to learn Java this summer and I would like to see how to get the user to input data (like get in Turing). I quickly went through the tutorial and it doesn't say how to do this. |
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| Author: | syntax_error [ Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RE:The Java Introduction: what\'s needed/wanted? |
andrew. @ Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:24 pm wrote: I'm going to try to learn Java this summer and I would like to see how to get the user to input data (like get in Turing). I quickly went through the tutorial and it doesn't say how to do this.
scanner class. is what your looking for, and till some one makes a tut on it, just Google it you will get many many examples. |
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| Author: | Nick [ Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:The Java Introduction: what\'s needed/wanted? |
there's many ways to do it: Scanner JOptionPane KeyEvent and I'm sure there's still plenty more |
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| Author: | tenniscrazy [ Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:The Java Introduction: what\'s needed/wanted? |
ugh. That's what gets so annoying, there are so many ways to do something, yet i can't get any of them to work Could we have a short section on the structure of java, just so it's easier to understand how to actually do things. Like how to implement different thing like input. |
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