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Frames

Author:  nate [ Tue May 27, 2003 3:47 pm ]
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Well, I have a big exam in comp sci coming up. And all i am good at is Turing i forgot most of my html skils

Could someone post a small - large tutorial on Frames?

that would be great.

*BLONDE BOUNCIES ARE THE BEST*

Author:  JSBN [ Tue May 27, 2003 4:29 pm ]
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sure, just give me a sec

Author:  Tony [ Tue May 27, 2003 5:08 pm ]
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well just to let you know... HTML is not a programming language, it shouldnt even be tought in compsci Confused

second, even if HTML is tough, FRAMES are old, outdated and noone is using them anymore... I truly dont see a point in having them...

But yeah, JSBN and PHP God are our HTML experts at the moment... ask them

Author:  octopi [ Sat May 31, 2003 8:53 pm ]
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Yes, html is not included under the ICS3M curriculum.
But.......
It should be included in my oppinion.
Anyways, Frames = BAD

They have a purpose, but they get annoying. Especially sites that use them just to put a banner at the top of the screen.


IFRAMES can be useful if you need to include stuff in the middle of the page, but they are highly UNSUPPORTED.


I find iframes useful for when I am developing something I know will only be used on systems with IE, and only when they are absolutly needed.

Author:  JSBN [ Sun Jun 01, 2003 9:42 am ]
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usually it's taught in business tech.

Author:  SilverSprite [ Wed Jul 09, 2003 8:35 pm ]
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tony wrote:
well just to let you know... HTML is not a programming language, it shouldnt even be tought in compsci Confused

then why is it called Hypertext Markup Language? Is it just a fancy name or am i wrong?

Author:  Catalyst [ Wed Jul 09, 2003 8:47 pm ]
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theres a difference between programming and markup languages

Author:  SilverSprite [ Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:24 pm ]
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yeahyeah

Author:  Tony [ Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:24 pm ]
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markup language is essensially tags that tell text how to display. Its really no different from a MS Word documen, its just that all the bold and italic and whatnot tags are not displayed.

Author:  SilverSprite [ Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:25 pm ]
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i knew that Rolling Eyes its all the same difference

Author:  PaddyLong [ Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:33 pm ]
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frames are nasty... they can sometimes be used and look OK if the person knows what they are doing (for layouts... tables and includes are your friend Very Happy). iframes are a bad idea to use because only IE supports them :/

Author:  Homer_simpson [ Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:46 pm ]
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just give the man what he wants already Rolling Eyes Razz
and i dont see any reason for Frames being Bad... except that some old browsers don't support them...Confused well i say ppl stupid enough to use those browsers can go screw themselves...
here's a big ass tutorial on frames...
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/present/frames.html

Author:  PaddyLong [ Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:56 pm ]
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Homer_simpson wrote:
just give the man what he wants already Rolling Eyes Razz


lol well considering this topic is from may I am going to assume he already found what he wanted or failed his test...

Author:  krishon [ Thu Jul 10, 2003 10:28 am ]
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lol, frames are ok if u know how to use them...for example if ur whole page is made up of frames and u have a navigation bar in one of the frames, only that frame will change not the page...technically u have have tens of page on one page Very Happy

Author:  UBC_Wiskatos [ Thu Jul 10, 2003 1:36 pm ]
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PaddyLong wrote:
frames are nasty... they can sometimes be used and look OK if the person knows what they are doing (for layouts... tables and includes are your friend Very Happy). iframes are a bad idea to use because only IE supports them :/


Actually, in the new W3C standards, tables are depreciated for layout, and the use of CSS for layout is encouraged. Tables were only meant to be a way to format data, anyway.

Author:  krishon [ Thu Jul 10, 2003 8:27 pm ]
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tables are much better...easier to lay out and stuff in my opinion

Author:  rizzix [ Thu Jul 10, 2003 8:30 pm ]
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it's all a matter of opinion eh. Wink

the tikiwiki.sf.net site's front-page is done with out tables... heh .. that'z skillz.. not that hard tho

Author:  PaddyLong [ Fri Jul 11, 2003 1:09 pm ]
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css maybe?

you can do pixel positioning with css... it really is powerful... and combine it with javascript and you have whats known as dhtml (dynamic html...)

edit: (lol just read page 1 and saw ubc's post after I did this one Razz)


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