I must point out that you really can't tell much about hte underlying OS (except that user stuff is now in the "Users" directory) from screen shots.

Agreed. Why the HELL don't they fix the underlying Operating System instead of fancy GUI? Competing with OS X on the visuals is useless if you don't have the system to back it up. But then again, it's Microsoft (tm). It's all about the visuals.

I must point out that you really can't tell much about hte underlying OS (except that user stuff is now in the "Users" directory) from screen shots.

Thank you.

OH NOES!!11 THEY PRINTAD SCREENSH0TS!!!H4LP!111 WINDOWS SUCKZ0RS!11eleventyone!!1

Let's all get angry about all of the deep things we find out abou the operating system from this screenshot.

For the record: I don't think it looks greater. But I'm not going to spaz about it.

Obviously. But I've read some reports, articles, Microsoft Documentation, and the likes, which bring me to the conclusion that Longhorn is nothing but a pretty WindowsXP with a few more bundled apps.

Obviously. But I've read some reports, articles, Microsoft Documentation, and the likes, which bring me to the conclusion that Longhorn is nothing but a pretty WindowsXP with a few more bundled apps.

Obviously. But I've read some reports, articles, Microsoft Documentation, and the likes, which bring me to the conclusion that Longhorn is nothing but a pretty WindowsXP with a few more bundled apps.

Obviously. But I've read some reports, articles, Microsoft Documentation, and the likes, which bring me to the conclusion that Longhorn is nothing but a pretty WindowsXP with a few more bundled apps.

Obviously. But I've read some reports, articles, Microsoft Documentation, and the likes, which bring me to the conclusion that Longhorn is nothing but a pretty WindowsXP with a few more bundled apps.

Obviously. But I've read some reports, articles, Microsoft Documentation, and the likes, which bring me to the conclusion that Longhorn is nothing but a pretty WindowsXP with a few more bundled apps.

*random bitching* *snip*

There. Will that suffice? Please tell me how many more times I have to repeat that sentence before it is burned into your thick, mushy, pudding of a brain of yours. At least Cornflake was polite about my ambiguous post, and allowed for contructive conversation. Whereas you are nothing more than an attention seeking whòre.

Update: Thank you....idiot.

FØCKING STUPID

I advice the flaming to stop now. Thank you.

Did I say your opinion wasn't correct? No. I simply pointed out (in a somewhat satirical way) that using every opportunity you can get to criticize Microsoft makes you come off as (to say the least) slightly ignorant. They're not perfect, they're not even that great, but seeing a screenshot and launching into a rant about them is rather pathetic.

The fact that you then spent what must have been a significant chunk of time to post entirely in bold, in alternating colors, steadily increasing in size , replacing all naughty words with weird accents (because that clearly obscures their meaning ) sort of goes to prove my point. Leaving the capslock key down makes the 12-year old image complete.

Excuse me for having a differing opinion and not being on the anti-MS Linux bandwagon, oh great all-knowing user of bold text.

And by the way, yes, after that post, you do look pretty

(in a somewhat satirical way)

using every opportunity you can get to criticize Microsoft makes you come off as (to say the least) slightly ignorant. They're not perfect, they're not even that great, but seeing a screenshot and launching into a rant about them is rather pathetic.

The fact that you then spent what must have been a significant chunk of time to post entirely in bold, in alternating colors, steadily increasing in size , replacing all naughty words with weird accents (because that clearly obscures their meaning ) sort of goes to prove my point. Leaving the capslock key down makes the 12-year old image complete.

Excuse me for having a differing opinion and not being on the anti-MS Linux bandwagon, oh great all-knowing user of bold text.

Wtd, it may not be ideal, but care to suggest another OS with less bugs, less learning "how to" and suitable for a lazy bum like me?

almost never 'cause of carefullness

But I have no problems with what I use now, and I'm tooo laaazy to back up. I don't like change... you get the point, I'm whiny. I did get used to firefox though. If changing to any of those will give me a similar experience, I'll definitely give one a try in the future As for spyware, I haven't found one I couldn't squash by myself, and I get one about once every 4-5 months before, now almost never 'cause of carefullness

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I advocate Microsoft's simplicity (though lack of security there-of is left for another topic). And being their customer (yes, purchased XP, unlike you who I'm %70 sure have a ripped version), I have a right to critisize its faults. I'd rather pay for something that didn't have all the whiz-bang and actually worked *well* rather than *pretty*. I read somewhere, "You can polish a lump of crap, but you just end up with a shiny lump of crap". Pathetic? Hardly. If people didn't complain about Microsoft's lacking support and deteriorating product quality, we'd still be using Windows 3.11. If anything, it's because of people like me that Microsoft keeps on track. Taking everything that is given to you without questioning it, is, in my opinion, pathetic.
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Hmm, I purchased Win XP. I must admit that I don't have much exposure to other operating systems, but I do like the simplicity associated with windows (me explaining to my parents how to use the computer: point, click, point, click ...I suppose it's generic for a lot of other OSes). I used Win 3.1 mostly, growing up.

I'm not really sure what I'm trying to get at here. Just that Windows can be really .... for some people, and NOT for some others.

I use Ubuntu Linux 5.04 (Hoary). I'd wager that any basic system task more often than not can be explained more simply with my OS of choice than with Windows XP.

Changing file permissions.

I use Ubuntu Linux 5.04 (Hoary).

Right-click the file and select "Properties". Select the Security tab. Change permissions. Close Properties dialog.

Right-click the file and select "Properties". Select the permissions tab. Change permissions. Close Properties dialog.

Not terribly complex.

Is there a reason why they named this version "The Hoary Hedgehog"? Not that I'm the kind of person who snickers at stupid things, but they could have picked a word with better connotations than Hoary. Furthermore, hoary is a word that denotes something old/obsolete, which probably isn't a way you want to describe an OS. Especially one like Ubuntu.
But then, what do I know. I mean really.

a mac is much easier to learn
Why not switch to a mac?

Number of reasons. Something about being scared of trying out an alternative, and games. Some kids *need* their overclocked, water cooled, neon-glowing Windows box(es) to run their games at as high as 1/2 of the highest setting! It makes them feel bigger about themselves.

I keep on trying to convey the message that girls fall for Mac users And no wonder, since a sleak iBook + ps3 would cost less than a Windows tower that makes fuses go pop! when that tertiary fan kicks in. And yes, I do know of a guy who cools his overclocked laptop with 3 separate fans (a cooling pad + 10" fan + 14" fan).

You're reaching to justify the fact that you feel more comfortable by making claims you can't back up.

You don't have to. It's understandable, and perfectly ok. You've had a lot more experience with Windows. Even if you've been doing things the wrong way, they're habit, so they feel right. I get that.

What would not be ok, for a person posting to compsci.ca is not being willing to leave that sheltered world of Windows.

But you see...then you'd have to put up with people making fun of you for owning a mac...

lol why DO people make fun of mac owners/users? XD

I'm sorry, I didn't know there was a right or a wrong way of using a computer

That was more of a hypothetical. More of a "even if you are using a computer the wrong way, if you've been doing so for a long enough time, it'll feel like the right way to do things."

It's like eating at a fancy restaurant with your bare hands. Sure, you can do it. You might be so used to doing it that you think it's right to eat it with your bare hands. But that doesn't change the fact that you were given a knife and fork for a reason. It might be hard to get used to that knife and fork, but in the long run it's what's best.

Also, he's saying "even if you do it the wrong way". Not, "even if there was a wrong way". Insinuating that there *is* a right and wrong.

Anyways, it's that kind of condescending attitude that comes across to people , even to those who would like to switch and try something else. It sounds discouraging and insulting.

Anyways, it's that kind of condescending attitude that comes across to people , even to those who would like to switch and try something else. It sounds discouraging and insulting.

Wuzzah-Wuzzah?
That's the last time I try and clear anything up.

:S I don't really get that ^^;; So um, there's a right way and a wrong way? Or... ."even if", disregarding the nature of the rest of the sentence?

There are just so many basic functionalities missing from Windows by default that I can't imagine anyone being more productive with Windows, unless they need something like AutoCAD, where Windows is the only option.

There are too many things that Windows has been made the only option for.

All I mean to say is that I understand about comfort, but if you avoid trying other things, then you'll miss opportunities to find somewhere else where you'd be even more comfortable.

Here's a secret about programmers: we're lazy.

However, we work really hard at being lazy.

Do I use Linux despite being lazy? No. I use it because I am lazy. I don't want to constantly be checking for spyware or running anti-virus programs. I don't want to have to work to hunt down installers for programs and wonder if they're going to screw up my system.

I use Linux so I can avoid these hassles, and doing so gives me the ability to be lazy.