Computer Science Canada is French really useful?? |
| Author: | person [ Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:39 pm ] |
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when u go look for a job, how much does french help? |
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| Author: | Hikaru79 [ Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:58 pm ] |
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If you're in Canada, and especially for social-related jobs, it's a HUGE asset. And anywhere else you go, knowing as many languages is a Good Thing. Even if the language itself is of little practical value, it says something about you personally, about your learning skills and stuff, if you can claim a working knowledge in two or three or four languages. At least... this is what my French teacher tells us   |
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| Author: | Tony [ Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:04 pm ] |
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Depends what you do and for whom. Tech support for the government owned organization would find French very benefiting. On the other hand, doing QA in private sector doesn't even require you to know proper English.. As for knowing more languages: I need to learn Mandrian just to get service at many places.. damn |
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| Author: | Martin [ Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:21 am ] |
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Knowing extra languages can never hurt. You have to take the classes, so you might as well learn something from them. |
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| Author: | person [ Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:19 pm ] |
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my french teacher tells us its pretty useful but wat ive learnt is that from grades 3-4, we learn the same thing twice. grade 5 new stuff 6-9 same thing really weird curriculum...dont u think? |
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| Author: | [Gandalf] [ Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:31 pm ] |
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This is what I've learnt: 1-3 same thing 4-8 same thing 9 different than 8 I just don't like learning the language. Pretty much all I can say is: Je m'appelle Gandalf. Bonjour. lol |
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| Author: | jonos [ Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:36 pm ] |
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If it <i>is</i> useful now it soon will not be. They're going to separate soon anyways, so it won't matter if you can speak french or not. |
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| Author: | [Gandalf] [ Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:51 pm ] |
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They tried that before, remember? Who knows what will happen, but I don't really care because by then I will have learnt all the French which I would have learnt anyways  . I guess it would make it simpler making a job if there was no French - but then again, there would probably be something else like Spanish or Chinese or something which would not make things any better. |
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| Author: | Mazer [ Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:20 pm ] |
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[Gandalf] wrote: I guess it would make it simpler making a job if there was no French - but then again, there would probably be something else like Spanish or Chinese or something
which would not make things any better.Did that make sense to you? The big advantage to being fluent in French is that it's one of our official languages. Even if Quebec seperated (which I don't think is likely any time soon), it would probably still be an official language. Knowing other languages is a bonus only if you're expecting a majority of clients that speak that specific language (of if you work as an interpreter). |
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| Author: | [Gandalf] [ Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:26 pm ] |
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What I meant was that it might make it simpler to get a job if we didn't have French as an official Language. If that happened though, we would probably have to learn some other language instead. That would not be much better than the current situation. And, as you said, even if Quebec separated - French would still probably be our second official language. |
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| Author: | Blade [ Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:08 pm ] |
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french is probably the most useful around government, tech support, or travel agency jobs |
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| Author: | Pickles [ Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:50 pm ] |
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je ne sais pas, is all you need to know really |
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| Author: | person [ Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:11 pm ] |
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so Pickles, wat does that mean?? funny thing is that i got a 89% average in French last year and this year....well lets just say im proud that im currently getting over 60% |
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| Author: | Tony [ Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:49 pm ] |
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Je ne parle pas français bien, mais je sais employer l'Internet |
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| Author: | Catalyst [ Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:46 pm ] |
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le français est une bonne langue, riche avec les formes de verbes interessantes. Tu ne dois pas le saver, mais de temps en temps c'est une avantage. Pour example, quand to veut lire ques-ce-que j'ai juste écrit. |
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| Author: | ssr [ Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:20 pm ] |
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Catalyst wrote: le français est une bonne langue, riche avec les formes de verbes interessantes. Tu ne dois pas le saver, mais de temps en temps c'est une avantage. Pour example, quand to veut lire ques-ce-que j'ai juste écrit.
   
I can understand it but would never be able to write aomething like this... |
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| Author: | Delos [ Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:11 am ] |
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Catalyst wrote: le français est une bonne langue, riche avec les formes de verbes interessantes. Tu ne dois pas le saver, mais de temps en temps c'est une avantage. Pour example, quand to veut lire ques-ce-que j'ai juste écrit.
Bien-sûr mesieur (sp?). C'est evident que tu sait le français trés bien, ou tu as une dictionaire! Donc, dans mon opinion, le français c'est vraiment un advantage d'avoir, pour gagner plus de l'argent, pour parler avec les belle filles, pour crier aux gens qu'on n'aimes pas...et la même... Ah! Mon Dieu! C'était un trés long temps que j'avais parler en français...plus longs...plus longs... |
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| Author: | person [ Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:41 pm ] |
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im assuming u people took french until gr11,gr12? i dont know but ill i know is: je n'aime pas francais and je ne peux pas parle dans francais is it even dans? i dont know |
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| Author: | [Gandalf] [ Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:18 pm ] |
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dans means in, but I don't know if you would use it in this case... Je n'aime pas parle ou ecris Francais. I suck at french, I forgot how to conjugate even normal verbs (as you can see). At best, I can read most words, speak in short, crappy sentences, and write horribly. Mon Dieu! ==> this is my favourite saying in French
But with a little help 8) I can write longer sentences: Le français est très complexe à cause de toutes les exceptions. Personnellement, je préfère que l'anglais puisque c'est facile. Ceci le mot prochain sera compliqué. Nous sommes tous programmeurs ici. |
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| Author: | person [ Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:25 pm ] |
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am i the only one that cant speak french at all? |
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| Author: | [Gandalf] [ Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:26 pm ] |
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Lol, didn't you take grade 9 french? |
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| Author: | ssr [ Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:27 pm ] |
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dont worry, I donno either I can read them but really suck at listening
tsk tsk |
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| Author: | Bacchus [ Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:42 pm ] |
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dont worry person ur not the only one, i gave up french after gr 9, hated it started in gr 5 and they made me take it. would have rather learned spanish or italian. all i remember is: je ne parle pas francais Bonjour, parlez vouz anglais? <-have to say really a really bad french accent tho jambon lol zut!  |
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| Author: | Paul [ Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:50 pm ] |
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Started french in grade 5 when I didn't even know english properly, now I'm in grade 11 and have never gotten under 93 in french, its not a hard class. The cool thing is, when I write in french now, I mostly don't translate it from english in my head, I think in french. I also speak mandarin and a bit of German. French is useful for government jobs in canada, if you want to go to Quebec, y'know just to see things, or if you go to europe. |
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| Author: | person [ Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:23 pm ] |
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Quote: Started french in grade 5 when I didn't even know english properly, now I'm in grade 11 and have never gotten under 93 in french, its not a hard class. The cool thing is, when I write in french now, I mostly don't translate it from english in my head, I think in french. I also speak mandarin and a bit of German. French is useful for government jobs in canada, if you want to go to Quebec, y'know just to see things, or if you go to europe.
ur bullshitting right?? 4 languages?? holly shit ur a genius!!! wat was ur first language? |
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| Author: | Delos [ Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:26 pm ] |
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[Gandalf] wrote: Le français est très complexe à cause de toutes les exceptions. Personnellement, je préfère que l'anglais puisque c'est facile. Ceci le mot prochain sera compliqué. Nous sommes tous programmeurs ici. Au contraire! Le français n'a pas beaucoup des exceptions. L'anglais, toutefois, est le plus disorganisé lange qu'on peut trouver. On a seulement un peu des conjugaisons avec les verbes, et le temps des regles pour les noms. L'anglais est facile pour vous parce que vous êtes vécu toute votre vie l'avec. A cause de l'anglais manque avec les regles, apprendre un autre lange qui l'a beacoups est un peu difficile. Donc, c'est faut que tu lise un peu de latin - la mère des beaucoup des lange european. Une prof de mienne a dit un fois, "La francais n'est rien que latin brouillement..." Ah, la verité, la verité. |
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| Author: | [Gandalf] [ Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:18 pm ] |
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Je devine vous ont raison. Que les moyens de brouillement ? La chose dure de français est le masculin/feminin, et les petites choses comme cela. |
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| Author: | brenn [ Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:20 pm ] |
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tony wrote: As for knowing more languages: I need to learn Mandrian just to get service at many places.. damn
Mandarin is a dialect, not a language
You could always work in a Taiwanese sweatshop and pick up Chinese there 8D |
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| Author: | rizzix [ Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:23 pm ] |
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brenn wrote: tony wrote: As for knowing more languages: I need to learn Mandrian just to get service at many places.. damn
Mandarin is a dialect, not a language
You could always work in a Taiwanese sweatshop and pick up Chinese there 8D |
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| Author: | Catalyst [ Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:30 pm ] |
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Oui, je suis d'accord avec tu sur les masculins et feminins, ils peutent très ennuyant. Mais avec le temps et la pratique tu pourras les connaitre assez bien pour faire les phrases correct en sense de grammaire. |
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| Author: | Tony [ Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:55 pm ] |
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brenn wrote: You could always work in a Taiwanese sweatshop and pick up Chinese there 8D
or you know... you could be working in an office building where I don't cut myself with mystery objects  |
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| Author: | Delos [ Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:54 am ] |
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[Gandalf] wrote: Je devine vous ont raison. Que les moyens de brouillement ? La chose dure de français est le masculin/feminin, et les petites choses comme cela.
D'accord, on n'a pas le masculin/feminin en anglais...mais, c'est un petit chosie  .
En anglais, le plupart des verbes ont les formes irregulier...et les noms...ah les noms! Bien-sur, le français, les ont - mais comme je dirais, plus moins. Donc, le Chinoise est une bonne langue! Il n'y a pas des temps! Toutes les verbes ont un temps! Si tu veut dire que tu ferras un chose, tu l'a dit dans la contexte...comme - "Je marche maintenant, je marche hier, je marche demain" au contre "Je marche, j'ai marché, je marcherai"... |
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| Author: | [Gandalf] [ Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:59 pm ] |
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Je devine toutes langues ont leurs parties faciles et les parties difficiles. Le chinois est une bonne langue, mais c'est même plus dur à apprendre un nouvel alphabet entier! Beaucoup des choses difficiles que vous tombez sur dans l'érudition d'anglais que je ne remarque pas. Je me suis habitué à la langue. |
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| Author: | person [ Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:46 pm ] |
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my @$$ mandarin is easier than french...i speak mandarin the only part thats easier is that there's very little grammar involved |
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| Author: | Bacchus [ Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:22 pm ] |
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too much french!!!! [Bacchus' head explodes, have a nice day] |
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| Author: | person [ Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:26 pm ] |
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hey dont blame me all i posted was in french but then isnt it my fault that i started this thread?? im quite confussed and conflicted |
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| Author: | TheFerret [ Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:51 pm ] |
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Il est étrange, Je ne prise Francais en catégorie 10 ou plus tard mais je comprenez ceci... (That should be right but I am not 100% sure...) |
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| Author: | Bacchus [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:02 am ] |
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uhhg, if this topic continues on im gonna have to get a babelfish |
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| Author: | person [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:47 pm ] |
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am sorry but babel fish sucks!!!!! when it translates the things dont make sense ("all ur bits r belonging to me" is more grammatically correct!!) |
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| Author: | Martin [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:57 pm ] |
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It's belong! |
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| Author: | Mazer [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:51 pm ] |
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person wrote: am sorry but babel fish sucks!!!!!
when it translates the things dont make sense ("all ur bits r belonging to me" is more grammatically correct!!) I'm willing to be that he wasn't referring to an online service. Let's take a look: Bacchus wrote: uhhg, if this topic continues on im gonna have to get a babelfish |
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| Author: | Tony [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:06 pm ] |
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did he mean an actual babelfish?  those are hard to find |
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| Author: | person [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:51 pm ] |
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wat does the fish have to do with French....im saying this even though i dont even know wat a babelfish is (arnt i ignorent)?? |
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| Author: | brenn [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:29 pm ] |
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person wrote: wat does the fish have to do with French....im saying this even though i dont even know wat a babelfish is (arnt i ignorent)??
"Babelfish" is a reference to The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy. [semi-spoiler alert? oO;] If I remember correctly, it's a little alien thing that goes into your ear and translates from any alien language into your own. |
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| Author: | person [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:21 pm ] |
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i really need to read those books...do they sell them in "Chapters"? |
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| Author: | Bacchus [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:56 pm ] |
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Coutsos, you are correct. yes the altavista babelfish translator really suks like all translators cause they dont do grammar. the Babelfish is a small alien creature that feeds off of brainwaves. the interesting part about it is that it will translate any language into one that you can understand and telepathly puts in ur head. the babelfish is also known for prving the non-existence of god, lol i love that part. ne one feel like putting a quote from the book? |
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| Author: | brenn [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:05 pm ] |
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person wrote: i really need to read those books...do they sell them in "Chapters"?
They do at every Chapters I've been to. Even if they don't carry them on hand, you can ask them to specially order the series for you. |
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| Author: | Mazer [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:55 pm ] |
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Bacchus, it's my absolute favourite quote from that book. I'd like to post it, but I think that'd be a pretty big spoiler... let's let person go read it first. |
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| Author: | person [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:59 pm ] |
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im gonna go get it tommorow 
bte : y am i the only person that havent read it yet...i mean everyone on this site seems to have read it!! |
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| Author: | Bacchus [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:06 pm ] |
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thats cause its so god damn funny. great books, one of the greatest series ever written and i cant wait for the movie, would have liked to hear the radio shoe or seen the old tv show tho. ya i guess giving out that quote wouldnt be that good. just start to expect thing when the babelfish comes into the picture |
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| Author: | Mazer [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:13 pm ] |
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I just saw the trailer. It seemed more stupid-funny than funny-funny like the book... of course it's still guaranteed to be better than Ep III, so I'm definitely going to watch it. |
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| Author: | brenn [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:06 pm ] |
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Coutsos wrote: I just saw the trailer. It seemed more stupid-funny than funny-funny like the book... of course it's still guaranteed to be better than Ep III, so I'm definitely going to watch it.
I didn't like the trailer :S But I'm going to watch the movie anyway 8D And do you mean Ep III of StarWars? I could never take that seriously, knowing that Hayden's from my high school. xDD person wrote: im gonna go get it tommorow
bte : y am i the only person that havent read it yet...i mean everyone on this site seems to have read it!! 8D Naw, I know that at least one of us here hasn't read any of it yet, other than yourself  I've only read the first one and part of the second. After you buy them tomorrow, you'll be ahead of me in no time XD |
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| Author: | Tony [ Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:30 am ] |
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Bacchus wrote: the babelfish is also known for prving the non-existence of god, lol i love that part. ne one feel like putting a quote from the book?
quote for those interested Brenn wrote: I know that at least one of us here hasn't read any of it yet, other than yourself
That's because you wouldn't get the books  I am soo taking you to Chapters this Saturday  |
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| Author: | Martin [ Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:44 pm ] |
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And now, because this thread already makes no sense, time for something completely random.  |
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| Author: | person [ Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:33 pm ] |
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sad how most of this thread isnt about french but anyways...please answer my question keeping in mind that i will suicide before going into "services" |
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| Author: | Mazer [ Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:56 pm ] |
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Wow. That damned paperclip always pops up at the most annoying times! |
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| Author: | person [ Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:59 pm ] |
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the paperclip is actually helpful in his situation...personally i would go with the pills |
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| Author: | octopi [ Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:04 pm ] |
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uh, anyways I went to banff, for reading week, and well, I met alot of french people. knowing french is a good thing....even if your not going to quebec. we also learned things like pip sil vous pley (I suck with spellings), thats BJ please. and beau cu, is nice ass. |
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| Author: | rizzix [ Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:08 pm ] |
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Coutsos wrote: Wow. That damned paperclip always pops up at the most annoying times! ROFL so true. |
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| Author: | Paul [ Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:16 pm ] |
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I just got off of a direct flight from Paris, jet lagged because we sneaked into one room and had a party until 3 AM when we were leaving at 5:30. France was pretty fun, even if you do suck at french, people would undestand you, if not only by hand jestures. Definitely a place to visit. I spent around $500 CND there, the girls went crazy shopping, swooning over shoes and purses o0. Unbelievable. |
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