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MSN Messanger 7

Author:  Amailer [ Sun Oct 03, 2004 7:53 am ]
Post subject:  MSN Messanger 7

http://www.searchenginejournal.com/index.php?p=916
http://www.dvhardware.net/article3215.html
Yeah, well--- I say they made it more crap.
It looks, bulky. And the search the web tool bar is anoyong.


What is more anoying are these new things called 'Winks' Your msn Conversation has some dancing animated image for like.. 1 minute? (don't know).

New thing called nudge, haven't tried that out yet but it sounds anoying.

Oh well...
Btw, after you finish a conversation, and close it an error will pop up, i guess because its beta. either way it doens't crash msn.

Author:  Dan [ Sun Oct 03, 2004 11:04 am ]
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Speaking of msn, has any one ever bothered reading the user agerment?

Here are some of my favorite lines:

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However, we may monitor your communications and disclose information about you, including the content of your communications, if we consider it necessary to


Quote:

Microsoft may automatically upload performance and usage data for evaluating the Service and the software associated with the Service.


So far from what i have seen from MSNM 7 is that they just stole all the ideas that GIMP (sorry, I think Dan meant "GAIM"--Coutsos) and aMSN had that where any good.....

EDIT: ROFL is MSN 7 buggy crahses more then windows right now, also the new graficks they use hurt my eyes. And they still have not put in any real needed fuetuchers that ICQ and AOLM have had for years.

Author:  the_short1 [ Sun Oct 03, 2004 11:23 am ]
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hmm

i think i still have 6.2..... dont really care about upgrading..

works fine like it is..


and dan.... HAHAHAH.... if MS can read ur emails etc... why not READ EMAILS FROM US SAYING <MS SUCKS !

jeeze... at least from the hotmail / msn.com / ie / media player ...standpoint.. i relaly think they blow... i dont mind my win98se tho..

Author:  Catalyst [ Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:02 pm ]
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i dont mind this version. I think the GUI is a bit better than 6.2 even if it is a bit unpolished. But the fact it doesnt work with plus and that it doesnt make up for the features that plus offers. I think i might just switch to amsn tho.

Author:  Dan [ Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:57 pm ]
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I am realy pissed now, msnm 7 has bascily locked out msnm 6.2 from working on my pc. And msnm 7 is crashing alot for me and having so many error message it makes me whonder if they even ran it affter they complied it. I know it is a beat but still you whould think some of thess problems whould have been removed in the aplha since they seem to hapen for every one. Also the nuge thing is just wrong, i see it being exploted so baddly in the futtuer (if not by some one eltes then by me) by making a scripted to let you send it as much as you whont. And the winks are also wrong on so many levels, tho every time i send of get one it crashs my comp, the idea behind them is dum and they realy are just big animated emtoicons that recure you to hit play.

Some of the good things they did add where alowing you to choice what status u are in when you log in (wtich has been around for a long time in the open sorcen msn clinets) and they now alow custom animated encomics even tho they colors are messed to hell on them.

The GUI is difrent and it is deftaly more windows xpish if that makes any secen but i am some one who likes the unix comand line so the colors of the GUI do not mean much to me other then the fact that it seems to run slower and take up more memory then the old one. I also supscet they are going to be adding sinks for msn sine you can now hit a buttion and the clacik windows borders go away kind of like media player dose. But as many of you may know media player just gets messed up when it gose like that and so dose msnm 7.

Author:  Martin [ Sun Oct 03, 2004 1:13 pm ]
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Dan, GIMP is image editing software Wink

Author:  Amailer [ Sun Oct 03, 2004 1:30 pm ]
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Hacker Dan wrote:

Some of the good things they did add where alowing you to choice what status u are in when you log in (wtich has been around for a long time in the open sorcen msn clinets) and they now alow custom animated encomics even tho they colors are messed to hell on them.


The stats thing was already added long time ago (like few weeks before msn 6 cam out) to the MAC msn messanger Rolling Eyes weird eh?

Author:  timmytheturtle [ Sun Oct 03, 2004 1:33 pm ]
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One thing like about 7 is the look of course and it allows you to sign in as: appear offline. other wise it kinda sucks right now cause I cant log on and I cant change my display name

Author:  Amailer [ Sun Oct 03, 2004 1:36 pm ]
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How? how come everyone elses msn 7 is screwed (like dan, his crashes)
mine seems fine, except for the fact that the XML message history log is screwed (that i knew long tiem ago Rolling Eyes )

I just hate it that they didn't make the ads optional, and that search teh web optional and those side, menu drop down list thing optional.

Also Custom Animated Emoticons are screwed on MSN 7 Rolling Eyes (only the beginning)

Author:  timmytheturtle [ Sun Oct 03, 2004 1:49 pm ]
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Im going back to MSN 6, at least this version works

Author:  Mazer [ Sun Oct 03, 2004 2:11 pm ]
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So does anybody have cool screenshots of the new version? The one screenshot in the article wasn't terribly interesting.

Martin wrote:
Dan, GIMP is image editing software Wink

That had me confused for a while until I realised he meant GAIM.

Author:  Genesis [ Sun Oct 03, 2004 2:39 pm ]
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Since this isn't an official beta release, I thim M$ made whoever had screenshots up take them down.

Author:  Maverick [ Sun Oct 03, 2004 2:57 pm ]
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meh looks pretty much the same, nothing special

Author:  Dan [ Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:08 pm ]
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Coutsos wrote:
So does anybody have cool screenshots of the new version? The one screenshot in the article wasn't terribly interesting.

Martin wrote:
Dan, GIMP is image editing software Wink

That had me confused for a while until I realised he meant GAIM.


Ya sory about that, was typing fast and not thinking right. It hapens when your roomates will not shut up while you are trying to type.

Author:  templest [ Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:12 pm ]
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Use Trillian Pro'.

Author:  JayLo [ Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:40 pm ]
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Who would pay $25 US for a client that encompasses all the major chat clients? Seems a bit too pricey for me!

Author:  templest [ Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:48 pm ]
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JayLo wrote:
Who would pay $25 US for a client that encompasses all the major chat clients? Seems a bit too pricey for me!


Convenience / Consistency across all client protocols.

Author:  sporty20 [ Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:33 pm ]
Post subject:  MSN Messenger

Every time I download msn it mess up my computer and I get really mad cuz i love msn so much. does anyone know what i should do.

Author:  Dan [ Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:46 pm ]
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Use an msn clinet not made by M$, aMSN for exmaple. Or if u realy love the hole M$ thing i whould try unistalling you curent msn and making shure all the files are gone then reinstaling it. If that dose not work why not send some hate mail to M$ Wink

Author:  timmytheturtle [ Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:53 pm ]
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When i installed MSN7 and wanted to go back to six I unistalled it and remove d MSNMESSENGER from the registry. You may not have too but I did anyways.

Hacker Dan wrote:
Use an msn clinet not made by M$, aMSN for exmaple.

or gaim, its free, opensource works for windows and linux, adn can support AIM, MSN, ICQ, IRC(i think)

Author:  Dan [ Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:46 pm ]
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timmytheturtle wrote:

or gaim, its free, opensource works for windows and linux, adn can support AIM, MSN, ICQ, IRC(i think)


I was going to list that one but i was having bad luck with saying gaim and not gimp in this topic so.... Rolling Eyes

Author:  wtd [ Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:49 pm ]
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Then again, The GIMP might just be a better instant messaging app than MSN Messenger. Wink

Author:  timmytheturtle [ Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:55 pm ]
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what is gimp?

Author:  wtd [ Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:57 pm ]
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The GNU Image Manipulation Program.

Author:  Amailer [ Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:16 pm ]
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Damm M$ Razz
Now they are asking me to download 6.2 or i can't sign into my account Evil or Very Mad

http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;878027776;fp;2;fpid;1
Rolling Eyes
http://addict3d.org/index.php?page=viewarticle&type=news&ID=3288

Author:  wtd [ Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:21 pm ]
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Amailer wrote:
Damm M$ Razz
Now they are asking me to download 6.2 or i can't sign into my account Evil or Very Mad

http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;878027776;fp;2;fpid;1
Rolling Eyes


I think the solution is fairly obvious...

dump Microsoft!

Author:  Amailer [ Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:22 pm ]
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hehe, read the second link...damm M$.. idiots...

Author:  sporty20 [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:45 am ]
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ok thank you very much.

Author:  Mazer [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:05 pm ]
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wtd wrote:
Amailer wrote:
Damm M$ Razz
Now they are asking me to download 6.2 or i can't sign into my account Evil or Very Mad

http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;878027776;fp;2;fpid;1
Rolling Eyes


I think the solution is fairly obvious...

dump Microsoft!

What ever happened to the universal "Get a Mac" approach? Very Happy

Author:  Dan [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:53 pm ]
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Amailer wrote:


Did i not tell u that the wink and nuge thing was a secuity risk in the 1st few secondes i was on msnm 7? lol. Wow leave it to M$ to not think of the effects there dum actions will have on things.

Author:  Dan [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 1:39 pm ]
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I just made a hack for msnm 7 in about 5mins that will let you use it still. If any one whonts the hack post or pm me and i will post it on the site.

Author:  the_short1 [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 2:57 pm ]
Post subject:  ENJOY@!!!!@

www.mess.be


all u neeed..


all the hacks .. cracks... emotions... display pics.... msn version... emot packs... asciji text art... msn nicks.... ascii converter dealy..


EVERYTHING!!


ENJOY!!!

Author:  Dan [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:22 pm ]
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Dose it reactive msnm 7 tho?

Author:  Dan [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 4:12 pm ]
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Any how tho, here is my hack to get you back on msnm 7.

You take the files in this zip and overwirte the files in c:\Programe Files\MSN message\ with them.

I did not fix any of the secuity holes yet tho....

[url]http://www.compsci.ca/dan/MSN7 FIX.zip[/url]

I was thinking of adding on to this but meh....

Author:  SuperGenius [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:36 pm ]
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This kind of thing makes me wonder why software in it's 7th version could include such glaring security holes.

Author:  timmytheturtle [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:01 pm ]
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i used ur update Dan and now I can login-in using MSN7, and I like the picture in the login in window

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Author:  Amailer [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:08 pm ]
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Oh yeah, dan. Your update worked fine until i restarted my comp, then msn keeped crashing Wink

Author:  timmytheturtle [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:08 pm ]
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Also found this picture of the compsci logo in msn


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v352/timmy_the_turtle/compsci.jpg

Author:  Amailer [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:10 pm ]
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Check the help, or about Wink

Author:  timmytheturtle [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:19 pm ]
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haha, what else did dan replace?

Author:  Dan [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:57 pm ]
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heh, opps. My msn is set up a bit diffrent did not test all my chages, i will fix. Hope it did not mess any one up to much.....

Edit: odd it works fine for me, what rez do u guys have?

Author:  Dan [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:40 pm ]
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well here is the none modifed login window verson:

[url]http://www.compsci.ca/dan/MSN7 FIX (no tony verson).zip[/url]


But the thing is i could not get the mess up to hapen on any of my comps so i do not know if this will fix it. For all i know it have be a bug in MSN7 that i triped some how.


If this verson dose not work i will make a 3rd that will work for shure Wink

Author:  Hikaru79 [ Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:04 am ]
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Hacker Dan wrote:
Speaking of msn, has any one ever bothered reading the user agerment?

Here are some of my favorite lines:

Quote:

However, we may monitor your communications and disclose information about you, including the content of your communications, if we consider it necessary to


Quote:

Microsoft may automatically upload performance and usage data for evaluating the Service and the software associated with the Service.



Legal question. If you use a non-MS client to connect to MSN, like GAIM or Trillian, do those terms still apply? Technically, it's their protocols and stuff you're using, but if you haven't installed their program you never agreed to the User Agreement. Does that nullify it or is it your own fault for not using their software? Is there anything in the GAIM liscence agreement about this sort of thing?

Author:  the_short1 [ Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:38 pm ]
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uhh... yea.. why did dan put a picture of TONY in msn ?? that dopnt make sense to me..

Author:  SuperGenius [ Sun Oct 17, 2004 5:12 pm ]
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it makes sense in a way if you think "wht NOT put a picture of tony in there?"

Author:  Dan [ Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:49 pm ]
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SuperGenius wrote:
it makes sense in a way if you think "wht NOT put a picture of tony in there?"


yep, it was more like what pics realting to compsci do i have on my hdd to replace M$ logos.

Author:  SuperGenius [ Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:24 pm ]
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How do you open an .exe file for editing anyways? Whouldn't it be protected in some way to keep people from making malicious code in it or just stealing the source altogether?

Author:  Andy [ Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:57 pm ]
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resource hacker

Author:  Dan [ Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:26 pm ]
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SuperGenius wrote:
How do you open an .exe file for editing anyways? Whouldn't it be protected in some way to keep people from making malicious code in it or just stealing the source altogether?


Nope, no protection. And as dodge side resource editor or and hex editor will do it.

Author:  Martin [ Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:18 am ]
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Everyone has this misconception that computers and computer programs are 'secure.'

Using a resource hacker is a matter of double clicking. Decompiling is only moderately more difficult.

The only thing holding the software industry's rights together are patents and laws.

Author:  bugzpodder [ Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:47 pm ]
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windows seem to have some kind of autofix feature. if you delete the executable for windows media player and replace it with classic media player, then somehow windows will know this and replace it with its version later.

Author:  wtd [ Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:02 pm ]
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Martin wrote:
Everyone has this misconception that computers and computer programs are 'secure.'

Using a resource hacker is a matter of double clicking. Decompiling is only moderately more difficult.

The only thing holding the software industry's rights together are patents and laws.


The only thing holding together the proprietary software industry's rights are patents and laws. Even with them, this industry will likel collapse in the near future.

Open source represents a fundamental shift in how software is produced, and those who ignore it will not be able to beat it. By building upon the work of others (and them building on your work), the industry escapes the constant reinvention of the wheel. Many companies have made their fortunes reinventing the wheel and now know how to do little else.

They could take advantage of open source and profit from it, but they won't.

Author:  Amailer [ Sun Oct 31, 2004 3:41 pm ]
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http://msnmessenger7.net/
http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?id=25224&category=main
http://www.mess.be/msnmessenger7.htm <- read the news last article.... or w/e

I also suggest you use the mess.de or w/e patch.. it removes the anoying ads.

Author:  Dan [ Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:44 pm ]
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Amailer wrote:

I also suggest you use the mess.de or w/e patch.. it removes the anoying ads.


I suggest that u just do not use msn7 at all, i mean there is no point to it at all once u patach out the new feautchers (aka the new secuity holes)..........

Author:  the_short1 [ Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:10 pm ]
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yea... the only 'real' stepup lately was the webcams..background pics and custom emotion thingy... unless something new comes along thats as impoortant then that.. why bother upgrading...

Author:  zomg [ Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:59 am ]
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I like the new "write" feature where istead of typing u can use a paint like thing to talk to ppl

ps i havent had any problems with it yet except the fonts on the main screen are all way too small

Author:  Dan [ Wed Nov 10, 2004 1:48 pm ]
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you do know that msn 6 has allmost all thos feautres.....and thw wrting thing u can add in to it with some hack or somitng. And you will not have a big problem with msn7 intill some one thinks it will be funny to crash your comp......

Author:  Amailer [ Wed Nov 10, 2004 3:02 pm ]
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what 'write' feature?

Author:  Dan [ Wed Nov 10, 2004 3:33 pm ]
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Amailer wrote:
what 'write' feature?


I do not think it is a real msn7 feature just that the patch they used put it in.....


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