Computer Science Canada Linux Install - WTF? |
Author: | TheZsterBunny [ Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:55 pm ] |
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Alright, I finally did it. On the suggestion of a few computer people, I've made a small partition on one of my HDDs, and have installed Linux. I used the Damien install CD, and have run the setup program. What the h3ll am I supposed to do to set everything up? -Z |
Author: | Dan [ Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:44 pm ] |
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well that ushely greatly depends on the distro you have, unforty i have not used Damien b4 so i whould not know what kind of apps and progames you have now. 1st thing whould be to set up your display drivers so you can at least get to a desktop. Do you have YaST with that distro? or SaX2 by any chance? Did you pick damien for any pticaualr reason? B/C there are some other distros that may be alot easyer to set up like SuSE. |
Author: | Genesis [ Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:48 pm ] |
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What exactly do you mean by set everything up? Although I've never used Damien either. (Suse is a good one, providing you don't use the downloaded personal version cd. Also, Fedora Core 2 I just installed on one of my systems, and it's pretty easy to set up.) |
Author: | Dan [ Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:53 pm ] |
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Well the SuSE personal cd is not a problem if u do not mind instaling alot of apps affter u instal linux ![]() if you have never used linux b4 and just whont to try it out you may also whont to check out some live cds. they let u use linux with out having to install anything by runing it off the cd ![]() |
Author: | Genesis [ Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:32 am ] |
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Ya, but for newbs to linux, that Suse disk is missing quite a few things to find and install with no previous experience. And I've never used one of those live cd's, though I've heard they're not that great. I don't see how you could accuratley recreate the linux experience without actually installing and using the OS. |
Author: | Mazer [ Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:50 am ] |
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I've only used a live Linux CD when my Windows Install was borked and I had one hell of a recovery job to do. It suited my needs well enough... although they could've done a little better than setting KDE as the default desktop environment. ![]() I've never actually heard of Damien (but then, I guess I'd be considered new to Linux as well). In fact, I first thought you meant Debian. So I can't really help you there, but I can offer you the opinion that Mandrake is really easy to install and set up. |
Author: | Paul [ Fri Aug 27, 2004 7:03 am ] |
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Heh, I dunno anything about linux and the onlything I've seen that has to do with linux is this: ![]() but my question is, without a desktop, can u startup with linux? and is there some sort of command prompt? |
Author: | Mazer [ Fri Aug 27, 2004 7:41 am ] |
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The command prompt is Linux. From there you can set up a desktop environment (or just a nice window manager if you like). And if you run into problems, it's ok because there are browsers and chat clients available that were made to be used from the prompt. Of course, there's bound to be at least one desktop environment available to be installed when you first install Linux. Usually KDE or Gnome (pfft). |
Author: | templest [ Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:39 pm ] |
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Mazer wrote: The command prompt is Linux. From there you can set up a desktop environment (or just a nice window manager if you like). And if you run into problems, it's ok because there are browsers and chat clients available that were made to be used from the prompt. Of course, there's bound to be at least one desktop environment available to be installed when you first install Linux. Usually KDE or Gnome (pfft).
Desktop Environment? What's this "DE" you speak of? Oh, you mean the thing with the buttons and the colours? Yeah, I think I have one of those. I personally just stick to the window managers, ie: blackbox. (although KDE does simplify things greatly). But yeah, there's plugins for that, so I don't worry. ![]() |
Author: | templest [ Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:40 pm ] |
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By the way, Paul, didn't I post that in the "Awsome Wallpapers!" thread in spam? ![]() |
Author: | rizzix [ Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:49 pm ] |
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best desktop enviroments imo.. GNOME, KDE and WindowMaker, Fvwm edit: and ENLIGHTENMENT,, heh phew |
Author: | templest [ Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:52 pm ] |
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YOU FORGOT ENLIGHTENMENT!!!!!!$@*^#%$&#$#@&^RIGW#RV BIF*VBCW*FG ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Author: | rizzix [ Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:56 pm ] |
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Author: | Mazer [ Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:30 pm ] |
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I would just like to take this time to point out that I didn't mention Enlightenment because I didn't want to sound like some fool who rambles on an on about something that's supposedly great. I only do that with Blender (which owns, btw). Anyways... yes, I could never forget Enlightenment, unless I decide to go completely terminal-based and claiming that graphical interfaces are for newbies. ![]() edit: besides, I don't want to constantly annoy people to inform them of my dislike of KDE. I prefer to annoy on occassion. Like this. KDE sucks! Why switch to Linux just to use a Windows-wannabe? |
Author: | TheZsterBunny [ Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:51 pm ] |
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I'm sorry. I meant 'debian' not 'damien' darn similar names. I'll have a linux-literate friend help install it. -Z |
Author: | Paul [ Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:56 pm ] |
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I didn't wanna start a new thread, so I'm reviving this old one. I want to learn to use linux (seems that it is useful to know how to) including the command lines and everything. I don't know which distribution to start with. I'm inclined to get Knoppix cause I don't have to install anything on my computer. if that isn't a good idea, I'd prolly just dig up another HD and install some other distro, or maybe even the copy of Unix that I have lying around. Please post suggestions/links etc. |
Author: | Mazer [ Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:06 pm ] |
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In my opinion, Knoppix is nice to have around when the shit hits the fan and you need to recover some files (or you have no hard drive temporarily). Other than that, it's just another CD lying around for me. As for distro to start with, I like mandrake. Many people will agree, and many will say they've got a better one. I could care less (but I won't try to). As for learning the command line, that's pretty much what Linux is. If you've used DOS you can probably get used to it soon, depending on how much you use it. Just try not to rely on doing it all with the mouse. |
Author: | templest [ Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:21 pm ] |
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To learn Linux, get Slackware. It's not hard to install; actually, if you choose a "Full Install", it'll completely automate the installtion except for the partitioning the hard-drive, which shouldn't be all that hard to begin with. Note: If you've ever done a Windows(tm) full install, you already have some basic partitioning knowledge. That and you get really hands-on with your OS to do mostly anything that requires technical tweaking. ie: editing text files to change your mouse sense, res, gamma-correction, ect. (This is just basic stuff, as an example. Meaning, you learn quite a bit about the underlyings of linux). After a while, you learn to ignore the desktop until' it actually becomes a burden to use. I started off with KDE, then weant to GNOME. Then I switched to the lighter stuff (ie: xfce), but now I just stick to the WindowManagers. ie: Enlightenment. ![]() In conclusion: Slackware. |
Author: | Paul [ Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:36 pm ] |
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problem is space, I'll prolly find another HD lying around somewhere, I just don't have enough space for it. Plus I don't know how to partition a drive after installing windows. Anyone know of FREE partitioning software? |
Author: | templest [ Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:47 pm ] |
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Slackware-Install gives you a partitioning menu where you pick how you want to partition it before going on to the actual install. It's not an app you have to download. |
Author: | Paul [ Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:08 pm ] |
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Yes I know that, but if I wanted to partition my HD without installing slackware ... |
Author: | rdrake [ Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:15 pm ] |
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Fips should do the job. |
Author: | templest [ Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:46 pm ] |
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Paul wrote: Yes I know that, but if I wanted to partition my HD without installing slackware ...
Use the slackware CD. ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Hikaru79 [ Sun Oct 24, 2004 12:04 am ] |
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If you're thinking of using Knoppix, I'd just like to point out that there's an option you can write in it's root terminal called "knoppix-installer" which will install it to HDD. Despite common belief, Knoppix installed to HD is actually a very decent and powerful Linux Distro (in fact, it's basically just Debian). Plus, it has a partitioning menu as well. If you just want to partition without installing anything, run a command prompt and type "fdisk". Simple, ne? |
Author: | templest [ Sun Oct 24, 2004 12:27 pm ] |
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Hikaru79 wrote: If you're thinking of using Knoppix, I'd just like to point out that there's an option you can write in it's root terminal called "knoppix-installer" which will install it to HDD. Despite common belief, Knoppix installed to HD is actually a very decent and powerful Linux Distro (in fact, it's basically just Debian). Plus, it has a partitioning menu as well.
If you just want to partition without installing anything, run a command prompt and type "fdisk". Simple, ne? Have you actually done this? Is it just like any other installer or is it like gentoo? If it's like gentoo, No.. I've had too many nightmares installing gentoo. First six times was a fail, then it worked, but i fcuked it up whilst experimenting with stupid tricks. Then I said: "Aw shit... fcuk it". That's a weekend I'll never forget. I actually got the runs (because of the excessive amounts of coffee, I slept 2 hours, total). |