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hl2 vs doom3
Author:  greenapplesodaex [ Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:04 am ]
Post subject:  hl2 vs doom3
which would you choose? y?

hl2's got a cool gravity gun, and it's got a good story line, doom3... it has stupid monster designs
Author:  Paul [ Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:15 am ]
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I don't like the fact you could throw bugs.... and then they attack you and then you squash them...
Author:  Mazer [ Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:35 am ]
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greenapplesodaex wrote:
hl2's got a cool gravity gun, and it's got a good story line, doom3... it has stupid monster designs

Hmm... a bit biased are we?

Yet I do agree, just for different reasons. I don't much care for the weapons, but I do like that there was a point to Half Life. The whole point of Doom was "You're the last guy and they're aliens, here's some guns -- you know what to do."

I see Doom3 as more of a "Hey lets see how many special effects we can cram into a piece of junk!" Because even though it looks incredible, I doubt that it will be much fun.

I see Half Life2 as more of a "Man, those geeks sure loved Half Life... let's make a sequel. Hell, let's make it look pretty too."
Author:  Martin [ Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:01 am ]
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I see Mazer as shut the fuck up.

Doom 3 is a classic. The first "real" first person shooter. This is a tribute to it. Find me a gamer that hasn't heard of Doom.

Their goal with doom III is to make it scary as hell. It has the most sophisticated graphics and physics engines to date, moreso than Half-Life 2 for sure. Now, as a downside, multi-player is extremely limited simply because of the number of things that have to be sent back and forth between the client and the server. Doom III supports 4 people.

I read the PC Gamer review for it. 94%. Some of the stuff that they talked about in it was just amazing. A few more days and you'll see for yourself.

ID Software hasn't let me down yet, I don't see why you think this is going to be crap.
Author:  greenapplesodaex [ Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:42 am ]
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what about wolf 3d? it's earlier than doom, isnt it?
Author:  Martin [ Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:54 am ]
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wolf 3d doesn't count.

It sucked ass.

And there were more before that.

Doom III was the first fleshed out one.
Author:  Mazer [ Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:17 am ]
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You and your silly opinions.
Author:  the_short1 [ Sun Aug 01, 2004 4:19 pm ]
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DONT DIS DOOM! OR ID SOFTWARE!!!!!!!!



1: Doom is a classic... always will be.. and is still fun.. wihtout it ur half life wouldn't have been made... it was the first FPS that ppl took attention to and it basically started the FPS generation...

2: Wolf3d sucks and was aimed at a different storyline.. blah.. think it was b4 doom

3: doom3 im shure kicks the ass outa half life2's graphics anyday...

4: i still love and play doom2 (and over a network cuz its fun) Doom95(windows app) launcher rocks <allows u to play doom1,2,tnt,plutonia plus custom WADS and play multiplayer.... so Razz its still fun!!!!!


i have played doom2.. and half life 1.... but i will be buyign doom3 later on...

the point of doom is to save the earth from being overrun by monsters..even tho ur the last peron alive....
Author:  Mazer [ Sun Aug 01, 2004 8:41 pm ]
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the_short1 wrote:
DONT DIS DOOM! OR ID SOFTWARE!!!!!!!!

the_short1 wrote:
2: Wolf3d sucks

I'm gonna sit back for a moment to let you guess who made Wolfenstein. Then you may reflect on your previous statement.


OK.

the_short1 wrote:
... and was aimed at a different storyline.. blah.. think it was b4 doom

Doom didn't HAVE a storyline.

the_short1 wrote:
3: doom3 im shure kicks the ass outa half life2's graphics anyday...

You kids are funny. Graphics are everything. Yup.

the_short1 wrote:
4: i still love and play doom2 (and over a network cuz its fun) Doom95(windows app) launcher rocks <allows u to play doom1,2,tnt,plutonia plus custom WADS and play multiplayer.... so Razz its still fun!!!!!

Even though we're talking about Doom3 and HL2, fine. Half Life was all about mods, what's your point?
Author:  Maverick [ Sun Aug 01, 2004 10:06 pm ]
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Screw HL2, we want CS2!!!!
Author:  Dan [ Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:07 am ]
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Mazer wrote:

Doom didn't HAVE a storyline.


Actucaly it did, it was a very odd one and had very litte input in to it other then the intro text and the ending text tho. Was about poleop making a portal to hell and one guy going in to it and so on. Very much like the sotry of half life just that it was never devloped behond the point of the start text and end text.
Author:  Mazer [ Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:16 am ]
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Well, if there was a story, they didn't try very hard to tell it to us.
Author:  the_short1 [ Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:46 am ]
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i did say wolfd 3d sucked... < due to storyline..(no monsters instead theirs those cops and stuff)


but i was not dissing the company... it was just not one of their best... they regained my vote after playing doom cuz they did a hell of a job..
Author:  Martin [ Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:39 pm ]
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Those cops were called Nazis.

And it's called CS:Source, not CS 2.
Author:  Mazer [ Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:35 pm ]
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the_short1 wrote:
i did say wolfd 3d sucked... < due to storyline..(no monsters instead theirs those cops and stuff)

WTF is that? Monsters make a story, but nazis don't?
Author:  Martin [ Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:21 pm ]
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PC Gamer said that the graphics are the best they've seen, that the story line is amazing and action packed, and that most of all it is very scary.

As a con they said that the attempts at humour sucked. I can just imagined

Oh no, we have just released the forces of hell, we are Doomed!

Evil monsters, prepare to meet your Doom!

If that engine overheats, it will be the Doom of all of us!

That would rock. I'd find it funny at least.
Author:  Paul [ Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:11 pm ]
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C-3PO Laughing
Author:  the_short1 [ Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:56 pm ]
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ok i had some uncertainty at first which order it was..

THIS IS FROM OPM Official Playstation Magazie Facts (at top of each pages they list some facts about gaming.)

Wold3d came b4 Doom

! thats what i thought but to sovlve any uncertainties there it is..)


so i will back up my previous statement by saying..

Wold3d was their tesst run,..... then they made doom and implemented / fixed all that was missing from the wolf3d.. Razz
Author:  Paul [ Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:53 pm ]
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<a href="http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/index.php?t=archives&date=last">Oooo...</a>
Author:  jonos [ Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:55 pm ]
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Doom 3 is going to make me piss my pants because I get freaked out with Quake (only at some points). Hopefully Doom 3 is going to be a "run around and jump/shoot" game because those are the best fps's.
Author:  Paul [ Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:05 pm ]
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the thing I wanna see is what happens to jonos when he gets jumped by one of those ugly things, totally by suprise and gets his head chomped off...
Author:  the_short1 [ Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:57 am ]
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yea... doom3 BETTER ALLOW U TO JUMP~!!!!!!!! like in quake....
Author:  jonos [ Fri Aug 06, 2004 8:20 pm ]
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Jumping makes a game like Unreal Tournament and Quake 3 (and older fps's) just because it makes it cool to jump straight onto someone and kill them at the same time.

Maybe I'll get a webcame or something to show my reaction.
Author:  netninja [ Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:35 pm ]
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doom3 is garbage. Storyline cannot be found at all. Something about landing then fighting. As for the other dooms i dunno, but i didnt like playing them all that much. Quake rocked my world in terms of shooting. But storyline is missing there too. DOOM 3 SUXXORS. Graphics are barely better than anything ive seen. Same shit to me if its not fun. I still play pac-man, why u ask? Because of the incredible graphics? of course NOT! Because the idea is simple and effective. Its incredible! So is mario! And doom3 suxxors completely. End of story. I didnt care for half life 1 either, completely boring, but i havent tried 2. ooh ooh, anyone that does muay thai MUST check out muay thai v.3 on newgrounds.com. Incredible, some kinda unrealistic moves, but its a game, has to be exxagerated and simplified at the same time. CHECK IT OUT!
Author:  Martin [ Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:33 am ]
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Doom 3 is amazing.

The engine is beautiful, and actually deserving of the insane system requirements. Lighting, bump mapping, everything...just wow. And the videos on the TVs are impressive. Especially the security cams. Anyone who says that the graphics aren't very impressive are smoking crack rocks. This on low looks nicer than Far-Cry on high (which, I must add, is amazing in itself). On ultra, it looks like one super nice still picture (hah!).

The A.I. is nothing amazing. Enemies run at you, you shoot them, they shoot back (or throw fireballs etc), they (hopefully) die. Believable, but simple. All that they needed though.

Playing at night with the sound cranked and the doors closed (as recommended on the cd case) provided some nice scares. Did I mention the lights? The lights are amazing.

There is a storyline as well. It's comparable in complexity to Half-Life's, meaning it's an excuse to run around and blast demons to shit. No complaints here. You go to hell eventually, and it looks pretty damn nice.

The weapons are interesting, but pretty standard. Pistol, Shotgun, Machine gun, Rocket Launcher, etc. You do get a chainsaw eventually, and this flying buzzing thing called a soul cube.

I have a few complaints however. First, the physics engine makes everything seem unrealistically light, but that could just be my taste. Also, the sound was a bit drab when it came to gun shots. There was no BANG! instead just a pfft pfft pfft. More realistic for the future, but hey, we're fighting demons here, I want my hand cannon! Also, the fucking main character is retarded... this is everyone's biggest complaint about the game: you can't have your flashlight out and one of your guns at the same time. Needless to say, I downloaded a mod right away to change this.

No, Doom III isn't a revolutionary game. The engine is well made, BEAUTIFUL and very optimized, and will definately be used in the future. Doom III is a lot of fun though, even after the initial 'Wow...I hope my warrenty covers drool on the keyboard.' It is definately a step forward in the world of graphics. There are a lot of better games out there, but if you want some mindless and good looking fun, give this a shot.

And finally, netninja, if you even played the game, tell me what happens in the opening sequence of the game.
Author:  Paul [ Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:14 am ]
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Maybe there's lighter gravity in hell. Hey! I have something to look forward to now! Laughing j/k
Author:  Catalyst [ Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:02 pm ]
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you do need to realize that doom takes place on mars which has lighter gravity than earth
Author:  Dan [ Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:20 pm ]
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Catalyst wrote:
you do need to realize that doom takes place on mars which has lighter gravity than earth


Realy? I thougth mars and the erath had almost the same mass....
Author:  Mazer [ Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:53 pm ]
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Confused

Well, just in case you're serious, perhaps you meant Venus? It's also known as Earth's 'sister planet' because they are close to the same size (relatively). And if I recall correctly (which I probably don't) the conditions are nearly the same on Venus. Either that or they're completely different.
Author:  Dan [ Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:42 pm ]
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Mass of Mars: 6.421e23 kg
Mass of Earth: 5.97e24 kg
Mass of Venus: 4.869e24 kg

Grational pull of Mars is 3.72 m/s^2

and

Grational pull of Venus is 8.87 m/s^2


So you are right and i am wrong, you are right i was thinking of venus.
Author:  the_short1 [ Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:24 am ]
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then why do i seem to rememeber the phrase... 'hell opn earth'... waht games taht from... quakje? duke nukem? doom? wolf? i dont remmebr now



meh.....

the lighting and shadows are cool..


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if doom had a good storyline .. iot would suck..


u play doom for the same reason u play pacman and mario..

its old school action tahts plain and simple fun... no brain wracking trying to figure it out... just requires some tallent to stay alive...

and freaky it would be with the sound up and late at nite....
taht giant apple cinama monitor would ROCK for this game im SHURE!!!! like DAM!!!!
and have 2 of them...on a dual monitor video card..

DAM!!!!!!!!!! that would own... not to mention hooked ur pc to a dobly digital real soruoud n sound 5.5 system... aww..... dammit i think i drooled on keyboard again... Razz
Author:  Catalyst [ Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:24 pm ]
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hell on earth was doom 2
Author:  the_short1 [ Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:56 pm ]
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ty.. tahts what i thought.. just wanted to make shure for arguments sake....



so.. i htink u both wrong.. i dont think its mars or venus,,, , its EARTH Razz
Author:  Martin [ Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:22 pm ]
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Haha, I think I scared away netninja.

You have my permission to come back now. Razz Twisted Evil
Author:  Dan [ Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:01 am ]
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the_short1 wrote:
ty.. tahts what i thought.. just wanted to make shure for arguments sake....



so.. i htink u both wrong.. i dont think its mars or venus,,, , its EARTH Razz


that is doom 2, i am prity shure doom 1 is on mars (like 99.99% shure) and i think doom 3 is based on doom 1 as if the sotry never hapend so that whould make doom 3 on mars as well....
Author:  greenapplesodaex [ Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:54 am ]
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wow, so many people reply my post, hehe
Author:  Martin [ Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:13 am ]
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I'm 100% sure doom III takes place on mars. Well...for most of it. You do go to hell eventually.
Author:  the_short1 [ Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:59 pm ]
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yea... doom3 will rock....u go around a corner and a hgue monster is right there and starts killign u.. that will be sweet!!!


so the gravity will be a little off...

dooms best point was the challenge of getting out of the level alive.. rather then dieing... and having fun doign that..


or just going into a room FILLLED with enemies and takkiung a chainsaw and ripping them all to shit <mite need godmode for that tho Smile still fun as hell

for all u peeps with the Doom 95 launcher (ur able to play doom1 2 etc with it.. online and extra wads.... . use this.... its fricking CRAZY!) if i remember right..this one has 12 portals that constantly refresh bad guys in this one huge room... u run into...

http://www.members.shaw.ca/short1_software/doomwads.zip

i included 3.. not shure which one was the best one...

meh.. all 3 are pretty good.. all made by other peeps.. not id software..

jsut put these in ur wads folder the rest is easy with the doom 95 launcher..
Author:  Mazer [ Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:41 pm ]
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the_short1 wrote:
yea... doom3 will rock....u go around a corner and a hgue monster is right there and starts killign u.. that will be sweet!!!

My goodness. You can get an experience like this from a game? What a technological advancement. All this time I've been playing pong hoping for something scary to come out from behind my opponent's paddle... I'll have to go buy Doom3 the next time I get out from under my rock.
Author:  the_short1 [ Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:22 pm ]
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errr..


it wont be nothing new persay..

but the advancements in graphics and lighting will make it a hell of a lot more REAL looking..


thta was the point of that commnent
Author:  greenapplesodaex [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:35 pm ]
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Mazer wrote:
the_short1 wrote:
yea... doom3 will rock....u go around a corner and a hgue monster is right there and starts killign u.. that will be sweet!!!

My goodness. You can get an experience like this from a game? What a technological advancement. All this time I've been playing pong hoping for something scary to come out from behind my opponent's paddle... I'll have to go buy Doom3 the next time I get out from under my rock.


hey! if you like that, how do you like setting zombies on fire and listen to them scream? lol
Author:  the_short1 [ Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:10 am ]
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umm resident evil???


yea i want to get that game later too



sounds fun... and 'scary'



Smile
Author:  greenapplesodaex [ Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:11 pm ]
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the_short1 wrote:
umm resident evil???


yea i want to get that game later too



sounds fun... and 'scary'



Smile



no i was talking about hl2, i command thee to go and watch the official hl2 movies... about the zombie part


p.s. i'm freaking tired of waiting!!! i'm gonna go and study now!!! Gabe, look what you and your team had made me do!?
Author:  Amailer [ Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:17 pm ]
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Doom 3 is 69.9 why--- i thought most games were like 50 something
Author:  the_short1 [ Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:31 pm ]
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but for the price.... they had to do crzy programming work.... they had to get the lattest graphics engines.... costs lots of $...


for the quality im shure its worth it..


anyone know which game has more levels??

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