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Truing runing on Linux
Author:  Dan [ Sun Jul 18, 2004 1:04 am ]
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Using some windows exe emulators i was able to get turing working on a linux install (SuSE distro). I tested it and it could run all the progames i wrote in it. just thougth some poleop whould like to know b/c i rember some post awhile about about turing for linux.

All you have to do is get a copy of turing (not the installer but the files) and put it on your linux install. Then using an eumator like wine it seems to run for verson 4.0.1 of turing (have not tested it on other versons).

I added some screen shots of it runing on linux to this post.

P.S. you will probly need an GUI desktop of some kind or it whould be kind of hard to use it Razz , i used KDE for this test.
Author:  Raugrist [ Sun Jul 18, 2004 6:57 am ]
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Well obviously the emulator would run it. But why? What's the advantage of turing in linux, when it's still turing?
Author:  Tony [ Sun Jul 18, 2004 9:38 am ]
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Raugrist wrote:
What's the advantage of turing in linux, when it's still turing?


that it's linux and not windows Laughing
Author:  rizzix [ Sun Jul 18, 2004 1:47 pm ]
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u can also get starcraft and winamp3 to run on that thing u know. and a couple of other apps check it out: http://appdb.winehq.org/

i guess the best app to get running is M$ Word. yea i know its m$ but u gotta give them credit.. thats good stuff they have there... so far unbeatable. OpenOffice.org has a long way to go. Mr. Green
Author:  rizzix [ Sun Jul 18, 2004 1:54 pm ]
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hey do me a fav. check and see if quicktime and iTunes runs Very Happy
...
nvm apparently its not easy to port it. *sigh*
Author:  Dan [ Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:11 pm ]
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rizzix wrote:

i guess the best app to get running is M$ Word. yea i know its m$ but u gotta give them credit.. thats good stuff they have there... so far unbeatable. OpenOffice.org has a long way to go. Mr. Green


Ahhhhhhhh not word, use open office. it is just as good, can even open word doumcements and best of all it is free, open sorce and not M$.
Author:  Dan [ Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:14 pm ]
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Raugrist wrote:
Well obviously the emulator would run it. But why? What's the advantage of turing in linux, when it's still turing?


Not that obviousl acualy, alot of aplications do not work right when eumalted if they work at all. And as tony side the adavatge is that it is linux Razz. Just means that u can use turing on another OS, wich gives us more fredom.

I was just realy borad late at night (2am) so i thought it whould be funny to try to run turing when on linux. Means alot to me tho, i do not have to switch OSs when helping poleop with turing.

Edit: one update on this, i tryed to compile a turing progame to an exe in linux and it worked but it crashed turing affter. The exe tho was fine and even it could be run in linux with wine. I have been trying to emulate some more adavced progamers like eMule but it did not work out (but there are linux verson of emule like xmule so that is no big problem).
Author:  SeanWestdaleWarriors [ Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:41 am ]
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You need CrossOver Office to run Quicktime and Word.

But its $39.99 USD.

http://www.codeweavers.com/site/products/cxoffice/

Open Office is fine for me, but I would like to run Adobe Photoshop instead of The Gimp, so I may buy it.
Author:  Martin [ Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:14 pm ]
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And use xmms instead of winamp! jeeze...
Author:  rizzix [ Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:40 pm ]
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ah no way winamp rox ... c'mon its free
Author:  wtd [ Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:37 pm ]
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rizzix wrote:
ah no way winamp rox ... c'mon its free


If you're using Windows anyway... iTunes is the only way to go. Smile
Author:  rizzix [ Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:32 pm ]
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yep thats what i use 99.9% of the time

speaking of apple products.. i recommend all those using iTunes or even those not using iTunes to go and download Darwin Streaming Server (DSS for short heh) its just GREAT!!!!! and opensource !!!!!

- usefull for streaming videos
- usefull as your own personal mp3 streaming server

- there are binaries for win2k/xp and redhat/solaris/osx
and u can compile it from source as well
Author:  Maverick [ Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:20 pm ]
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wow linux sure is ugly
Author:  wtd [ Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:23 pm ]
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Maverick wrote:
wow linux sure is ugly


Gnome is generally more attractive than KDE, due to being more minimal (still feature-rich, but not kitchen sink featureful Wink )
Author:  Genesis [ Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:25 pm ]
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I think Linux looks way better than Windows. Even KDE.
Author:  rizzix [ Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:26 pm ]
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i think linux is ugly.. but i dont use it for its looks.. only for its power.. btw SuSE look way cooler then ther others
Author:  Dan [ Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:58 pm ]
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Maverick wrote:
wow linux sure is ugly


lol, while it is not so much linux as the desktop you are using that makes it look good or bad.

Linux is nice b/c it gives you alot of freedom in that area, u could basiclky make it look like anything you whont. thos ss i posted are of the defualt KDE desktop with suse, i now have mine done up better in a lian like theam.
Author:  Mazer [ Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:09 am ]
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Maverick wrote:
wow linux sure is ugly

*Sigh*

Keep in mind that the screenshots on those page are stil ugly because they all use the default skin, and the E team spends more time working on a newer version of the WM than they do making the current ones look pretty. If ever you want looks from Linux, this is the way to go. (Plus it totally pwnz0rs)
Author:  templest [ Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:54 pm ]
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Sorry to burst your bubble dan, but I've been using Turing on Linux since the day I joined this site. I just never thought it was something so awsome that i would need to post pics about. Wink

I use Enlightenment as well. Trust me when I say, it can look better than OS X.
Author:  rizzix [ Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:15 am ]
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i dont like the Enlightenment "feel". i love the WindowMaker "feel", its much more like OSX. imo nothing beats osx Wink
Author:  Dan [ Mon Aug 23, 2004 9:56 pm ]
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templest wrote:
Sorry to burst your bubble dan, but I've been using Turing on Linux since the day I joined this site. I just never thought it was something so awsome that i would need to post pics about. Wink

I use Enlightenment as well. Trust me when I say, it can look better than OS X.


Well i did find it amdzing that holth soft wort code that was good enofuth to be emulated and work. I also found it admzing the wine could sport a progame complineing an exe.

Also there where post awhile back (1 year maybe?) asking if there was a verson of turing for linux. Athougth it may seem simple to us that u could emulate it some poleop do not even know wine is instaled with many distros of linux or that there is such a thing.

And who whould not think it admzing that wine can simulate a windows everment when the code for windows has never been realsed?

P.S. i was also more happy that i finaly found a distro of linux that sported the aline ware area-51m extream witch has many many many parts that have almost no sport by most linux distros and ushely will not even boot the install disk.
Author:  templest [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:14 am ]
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P.S. i was also more happy that i finaly found a distro of linux that sported the aline ware area-51m extream witch has many many many parts that have almost no sport by most linux distros and ushely will not even boot the install disk.


Are you sure about that? Last time I checked, AlienWare machines were just beefed up cases, packed with the currently bleeding edge popular hardware. I'm willing to bet the BIOS is just not configured to scan for CD-ROMs before it loads the HD, or some such.

BTW: No, actually... I don't find running windows apps on linux something that insanly amazing. Smile
Author:  rizzix [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:13 pm ]
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runing windows apps on linux is not always successful. so if it works, rejoice. if not.. well.. Arrow
Author:  Dan [ Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:17 am ]
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templest wrote:

I'm willing to bet the BIOS is just not configured to scan for CD-ROMs before it loads the HD, or some such.


Then you whould be wrong, it is not somting that simple. Alineware is not as carpy as u make them out to be there. There comps are for gaming so the hardware is only desgined for windows and is tweaked for max perfocmence on windows so it makes it hard to get it to work with linux b/c 1. the hardware is rarer then most, 2. if it is coman hardware they modfied it in some way and 3. it has all be tweaked for windows.

I think i whould noticed the difrence betwen not loading a cd and loading one and then crashing.
Author:  templest [ Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:48 pm ]
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Personally, I wouldn't waste my cash for just a flashy case and hardware that isn't compatible with linux. Sounds to me like another Dell all-together. Confused
Just build your own better box for ~$2000 less. Rolling Eyes

EDIT: I wonder how much money Microsoft has sponsored alienware with to make their PCs MS Exclusive.
Author:  Dan [ Fri Aug 27, 2004 11:55 pm ]
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templest wrote:
Personally, I wouldn't waste my cash for just a flashy case and hardware that isn't compatible with linux. Sounds to me like another Dell all-together. Confused
Just build your own better box for ~$2000 less. Rolling Eyes


Build your own laptop Eh

Are you mad??????

Do you know how hard it whould be to make your own laptop?? and the stafy, over heating and ecrelical issues you whould face????.


And AlineWare laptops pwn all, i mean how many laptop tops have u seen with interchageabl graficks cards that pop in and out like ram dose? And how many laptops have u seen with 3d sound bulit in to them with 4 sepakers, i whould realy like to see you build that your self for under $2000. Also they load there laptops up with the works, like 3 usb ports a fire wire port, memory card reader, 2 info red ports, remot conotrl, free t-shit, tv out (they will aslo have tv in on there new models and posbale an expasion card for curent ones ), G wifi, 1gb network card, top of the line modem, cool cases with lots of flashing lights and glowing aline eyes, metal case, quick buttions to turn off wifi card and open some set apps, high speed cpu and vid card fans, sound in line and out line that sports 3d sound, and a bulit in mic. And it is all in a laptop with the most uptodate hardware. I find it hard to blive you could make somting like that your self for under 2k....

Edit: i do not think M$ payed alineware anything, athougth there hardware is tweaked for windows it is not like it is impsoable to use linux on it you just need to find a good distro that comes with the newested drivers.
Author:  rizzix [ Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:21 am ]
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yea not a good idea building your own laptop.. once things get too compact.. u need the pros to do the work for you. btw actually speaking building your own pc is not a good idea either.. its a waste of extra cash (in some cases) and its possible to get a more optimized build through a branded build. not to mention a tested one too. and all that for an affordable price!
Author:  templest [ Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:39 am ]
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Hacker Dan wrote:

Build your own laptop Eh

Are you mad??????



I was talking about the desktops. Even then, if you're a true hacker, building a mere laptop shouldn't be that much trouble. I've seen people make a bootable linux instalation on a wrist watch ( http://researchweb.watson.ibm.com/WearableComputing/factsheet.html ), a laptop isn't too far out there. :sarcasm:

EDIT: "free t-shit". I have enough of those, thanks. Confused Although, will I be concidered a '1337 h4x0r" if I wear one? 'Cause that would just rock.

RE-EDIT: I got my box for $1,200. (Mostly purchased items off of small korean stores around downtown T.O. where you can hussle for prices Wink ).

Specs:


  • Athlon 64+ 3500
  • ASUS SK8N Mobo'
  • Plextor PX-712A 12X DVD+R/W, 8X DVD-W
  • Western Digital 160GB 7200RPM w/8MB cache HD
  • Cooler Master Cavalier 1 (CAV-T01 350W w/ Window) Case
  • Cooler Master Jet 7 Heatsink
  • Kingmax 512MB DDR433 PC3500 RAM x 2
  • nVidia Geforce 6600 GT 256 MB
  • Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS
  • Logitech Elite Keyboard Black USB OEM
  • Logitech MX-500 Optical Mouse
  • Gentoo Stage 1 Install


These parts aren't necesseraly tweaked to be a super-uber-leet-0wnage gaming box. But damnit, they do own any $899 Dell box. (for $300 more).
Author:  Dan [ Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:41 pm ]
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I dont think u understand that PC != laptop, of corse a box will be cheaper then an laptop any day. But i whould like to see u walk around with your pc and take it to clases to take notes.

And aucalty making a laptop is hard, just geting the case whould be a pain in the ass and finding parts that fix in to that case whould be next to imposable. Also i dont know what u think hacking is but it ushely dose not inval buidling laptops and pcs or t-shirts...........
Author:  wtd [ Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:57 pm ]
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Laptops: warranties are nice, and they are difficult to build yourself, though not nearly impossible. One part dieing on a laptop is going to cost more than any warranty, so your best bet is to buy one from a major brand. Apple's leading the pack here, followed by IBM and Toshiba. Dell is absolutely the last company to go to for a laptop.

Desktops: parts are cheap and plentiful, and building it yourself is like snapping together legos. Really delicate legos, but it's not hard. If you're looking to intall Windows, drivers may be... interesting... but that's due to the absolutely horrible hardware support Windows offers from a standard install. Install any recent Linux distro and you'll have very few problems with not having drivers available. If you insist on going with Windows, for the love of everything good and sweet get your hands on a copy of 2000 Pro. Smile
Author:  Dan [ Sat Aug 28, 2004 3:03 pm ]
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wtd wrote:
Laptops: warranties are nice, and they are difficult to build yourself, though not nearly impossible. One part dieing on a laptop is going to cost more than any warranty, so your best bet is to buy one from a major brand. Apple's leading the pack here, followed by IBM and Toshiba. Dell is absolutely the last company to go to for a laptop.


Well i did not mean that laptops where imposable to build i ment find combatal parts whould be unless u like bougth them all from the same comapny like dell, but then why not just have them make it? Shure if you had all the parts it whould not be nearal as hard, but there just are not alot of companys out there that sell laptop parts for buliding your own laptops to home users.

wtd wrote:

Desktops: parts are cheap and plentiful, and building it yourself is like snapping together legos. Really delicate legos, but it's not hard. If you're looking to intall Windows, drivers may be... interesting... but that's due to the absolutely horrible hardware support Windows offers from a standard install. Install any recent Linux distro and you'll have very few problems with not having drivers available. If you insist on going with Windows, for the love of everything good and sweet get your hands on a copy of 2000 Pro. Smile


Woooot, finaly some one ageres with me that some linux distros are easyer to install hardware on then windows xp!!!!!!!!! I had like a 2 page debate with templest about how linux can be easyer then windows with the right distro.
Author:  templest [ Sat Aug 28, 2004 9:50 pm ]
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Hacker Dan wrote:
Also i dont know what u think hacking is but it ushely dose not inval buidling laptops and pcs or t-shirts...........


Did I ever say hacking included t-shirts? No. Oh, you mean my "1337 h4x0r" comment? *sigh*, sarcasm is wasted on the simple. It's mean to be a joke against script kiddies that... you know what, nevermind. Yes, you're right, it is my firm belief that hacking involves t-shirts.

Hacking doesn't involve PCs? Shocked Oh, you mean building them?

Yes, I do concider building a laptop for yourself from your own individually purchased items more hacker material than writing a worm. Any script kiddie with a VB book can write a worm, now to build a laptop requires real talent.

My definition of hacker: Kevin Mitnick.

Not: That kid that modded the sasser worm and re-released it; Forget his name.

Being a hacker doesn't necesseraly mean someone that attacks other computers by means of software writing. But, I guess our definitions vary greatly then.

And the whole building my own PC thing, was in response to rizzix's comment htat "building your own PC isn't a good idea either...". When I write these posts, It's not always directed at you y'know.
Author:  wtd [ Sat Aug 28, 2004 10:25 pm ]
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Kevin Mitnick... bah.

Give me a hacker on par with The Woz. Smile
Author:  Dan [ Sat Aug 28, 2004 11:22 pm ]
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templest wrote:

My definition of hacker: Kevin Mitnick.


Kevin Mitnick has nothing to do wiht bulind laptops he was in to phone stuff. What i ment is i do not consider bulding computer hacking, hack has almost allways related to the software side of things. The orgianl deftion was somting like making software for fun and has evloed thanks mostly to the media to covering many topics athougth most of them have somting to do with go agested the system or the way things where ment to work/run as well as still meaning coding for fun. But i have never hured of buliding a P.C. or Laptop caled hacking, may be if u like moded somting to do somting it was not ment to like moding an console to play other forums of meaia i whould see that as hacking but not just making a comp, like wtd side that is like playing with lego.

And the reason why i borugth up your points that where sarcasm is b/c they made not scecn as sarcasm. Like what dose a gaming t.v. shirt have to do with scripted kidys or hacking.

But rizzix was realying to me saying that you are nuts to build your own laptop, so it was orginal directed at me.....
Author:  Genesis [ Sun Aug 29, 2004 12:53 am ]
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Nah, hacking can refer to hardware too. Back in the day before personal comps were big, it was the "hardware hackers" in Silicon Valley (like Steve Wozniak) that came up with small, portable comptuers, as opposed the huge room-filling machines around at the time.

And the very first programmers from MIT referred to anything involving a computer as a "hack", be it writing programs, or fixing hardware. Even picking locks was a form of hacking to them.

(And the original definition of "hack" was to simply build something for sheer pleasure, not having any real constructive purpose. The term was around before computers were.)
Author:  templest [ Sun Aug 29, 2004 12:57 am ]
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I said my comments aren't always directed to you.

I like computers, wearing a T-Shirt that has the logo of a computer hardware company, an ignorant CNN trusting american would... y'know what? Yes, you're absolutely right in your point, whatever that may be.

Not all "hacking" inquires the use of a computer. Have you seen the things the man has done?

Anyways, since you don't think what Kevin Mitnick did is concidered "hacking", I turned to my friend Google to help me out, and he likes to side with me. This is what he said about phone phreaking (what Kevin liked to do):


  • The art and science of cracking the phone network.
  • "Hacking" the public phone network.
  • Making phone calls while bypassing the charging system. Phone Phreaking was the forerunner to hacking.
  • Crimes committed against telephone company computers with the goal of making free long distance calls, impersonating directory assistance or other operator services, diverting calls to numbers of the perpetrator's choice, or otherwise disrupting telephone service for subscribers.
  • Similar to hacking, only the phreaker's goal is to access a phone system for the purpose of making free calls.
  • Employing technology to attack the public telephone system and get free long-distance service.
  • The art of circumnavigating the charging system employed by telecommunication authorities as well as controlling the telecommunications system in general.


If you don't believe me, this is the link: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=define%3A+phreaking&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

Be those definitions, I would certainly deduce the fact that Kevin Mitnick is truly a real hacker.

And hack:

To alter a computer program or gain unauthorised entry into a program, computer, or computer system.

"... or computer system", yep... that sounds about right.

Anyways, notice I didn't call building a laptop "hacking", but I just implied that someone that would be able to construct a laptop by themselves, is more "hacker" material than writing a "worm". Because doing what the populace reffers to as "hacking" is something any computer literate child with an imagination could do after reading a simple "Learn VB is 23 Days!" book. Hell, I've made plenty of viruses, but you don't see me walking around with my home-built laptop, do you?
Author:  Dan [ Sun Aug 29, 2004 1:58 am ]
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templest wrote:

Anyways, since you don't think what Kevin Mitnick did is concidered "hacking", I turned to my friend Google to help me out, and he likes to side with me. This is what he said about phone phreaking (what Kevin liked to do):


Shure i do, i ment that he did not make laptops, ROFL.

templest wrote:

Anyways, notice I didn't call building a laptop "hacking", but I just implied that someone that would be able to construct a laptop by themselves, is more "hacker" material than writing a "worm". Because doing what the populace reffers to as "hacking" is something any computer literate child with an imagination could do after reading a simple "Learn VB is 23 Days!" book. Hell, I've made plenty of viruses, but you don't see me walking around with my home-built laptop, do you?


Right......

Edit: pfff, i think turing on a computer is more hacking then a script kiddy.
Author:  Leftover [ Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:46 pm ]
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Would never buy a dell or pos like that, if you can't build your own PC, get a local PC store to build it. Dell's, Compaq's, HP's, All them blow. I work at a PC store my self, and se see so many of those pieces of crap with hardware errors all the time, and yet the only reasons we get the box's we build for people back is months later because they don't know how to use it and got tons of spyware etc.

As far as the laptop thing goes, same thing really. I my self wouldn't reccomend building one from scratch, but there are bare bone kits you can order that just require hdd, cpu and ram (sometimes graphics), which gives you more customization and upgradablilty, and theres no real manufacturer like dell or something, you can pull off better support for something like that your self.

Think, replacing the hdd for $100 DIY or sending into dell, and being charged $200 plus cost of hard drive?

Custom built is almost always better then a prebuilt, if you know what your doing or you have a pc store that will do it for you (I can sell you a $2000 dell inspiron for $1200) and if you can get good warrenty on the parts, all the better.

If any of this doesn't make sence, it's probably because I'm tired. Feel free to pm / email me if you have any questions, I can help ya out, especially if your in the K-W or surrounding area.
Author:  templest [ Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:26 pm ]
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What are you doing replying to this dead-thread? What you said doesn't even have to do with Turing on linux. Granted, that last "discussion" neither did, but still. Confused
Author:  Hikaru79 [ Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:07 am ]
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Hmm. All's not well guys Sad While it's true what I said earlier about Turing running on Linux, it's not running as well as i'd previously hoped. Environment crashes are all the more frequent. Sounds don't work at ALL. Programs involving animation are slow as heck.

=/ Time for someone to write a turing interpreter in Java? Wink

EDIT: w00t! 100 posts Very Happy
Author:  wtd [ Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:20 am ]
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Hikaru79 wrote:
=/ Time for someone to write a turing interpreter in Java? Wink


First get an open-source Turing parser written. One step at a time.
Author:  bugzpodder [ Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:17 am ]
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Hacker Dan wrote:
rizzix wrote:

i guess the best app to get running is M$ Word. yea i know its m$ but u gotta give them credit.. thats good stuff they have there... so far unbeatable. OpenOffice.org has a long way to go. Mr. Green


Ahhhhhhhh not word, use open office. it is just as good, can even open word doumcements and best of all it is free, open sorce and not M$.


i've being using openoffice for the past two months, and i must say I like word much much better
Author:  Paul [ Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:54 pm ]
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I've heard the advantage of openoffice is its better for document storage and organization or w/e, stores docs at the half the size too.
Author:  bugzpodder [ Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:55 pm ]
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yeah well, it ducks up my formatting of documents for whatever reason. I am sick and tired of it i reverted to office2k3
Author:  wtd [ Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:01 pm ]
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The advantage of it is that the document formats won't be changed in a year for no reason, so that when your coworkers upgrade, you have to as well, or you won't be able to read the documents they send you.
Author:  Paul [ Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:35 pm ]
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gasp, does this mean my father was a hacker? when I was little, he used the walkie talkie to do these crazy tone thing on the phone company computers, so he could get long distance calls on someone else's bill... Confused
Author:  Maverick [ Wed Nov 17, 2004 11:52 am ]
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Your dads a criminal not a hacker
Author:  templest [ Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:06 pm ]
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Maverick wrote:
Your dads a criminal not a hacker
Heart
Author:  zomg [ Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:09 pm ]
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templest wrote:
Maverick wrote:
Your dads a criminal not a hacker
Heart


Whats with the heart
Author:  Dan [ Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:35 pm ]
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Paul wrote:
gasp, does this mean my father was a hacker? when I was little, he used the walkie talkie to do these crazy tone thing on the phone company computers, so he could get long distance calls on someone else's bill... Confused


That whould be phreaking....in many ways it is a fourm of hacking since the telphone system is just another network. Tho u can do alot funner things with walkie talkies then that if u know what u are doing Twisted Evil
Author:  wtd [ Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:03 pm ]
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Hacker Dan wrote:
Paul wrote:
gasp, does this mean my father was a hacker? when I was little, he used the walkie talkie to do these crazy tone thing on the phone company computers, so he could get long distance calls on someone else's bill... Confused


That whould be phreaking....in many ways it is a fourm of hacking since the telphone system is just another network.


It was also perfected in the mid 70s by Steve Wozniak.
Author:  atrain [ Sun Feb 13, 2005 2:08 am ]
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Well, for those who were wondering:

Turing 4.05 will sucesfully run under wine... you have to install it first on a windows machine, then you can run it under wine.... you cant get the help though....
Author:  Hikaru79 [ Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:01 am ]
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atrain wrote:
you cant get the help though....


You can get the help, too. Just install xchm and keep the .chm file with the help handy. It's a bit more inconvenient, but it works.
Author:  Paul [ Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:28 am ]
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wtd wrote:


It was also perfected in the mid 70s by Steve Wozniak.

Although until 1998, I had never touched the internet, because I was in china, where the internet did not exist.... to most people. I guess there aren't alot of systems to exploit. (except for the justice system)
Author:  Drakain Zeil [ Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:35 am ]
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suse eh? Well, that's going to be my next distro, thanks!
Author:  MihaiG [ Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:36 pm ]
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if you have a good walkie talkie... go to a small airfield and yu can evesdrop on conversationsand talke with other pilots Rolling Eyes Twisted Evil
Author:  Hikaru79 [ Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:43 pm ]
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ELCOMANDANTE wrote:
if you have a good walkie talkie... go to a small airfield and yu can evesdrop on conversationsand talke with other pilots Rolling Eyes Twisted Evil


Are you sure? I would think that those would be pretty heavily encrypted channels or whatever, considering that the information being passed along is of a VERY sensitive nature. Just imagine some guy standing outside the airport with a walkie talkie going "Runway 3 is clear for landing!!"
Author:  Mazer [ Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:09 am ]
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What's this? Going to an airport trying to mess with the pilots of large aircraft carrying many people with lots of security standing by?
Electro mandate, I am begging you to please try this.

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