Computer Science Canada soup up internet |
| Author: | gamer [ Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:29 pm ] |
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im wonder.....is there anyway i can soup up (boost) my internet connection? i use rogers btw, the download seems quite fine (the more the better), but my upload speeds is baaaad. so does anyone kno how i can improve the speeds? softwares/programs?? |
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| Author: | Dan [ Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:39 pm ] |
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alougth there are tones of poroges out there that say they will do this, very few do much if anything at all but put spyware on your comp. for downloading it can be posable to cononcet more then one time to the same sorce to download one file witch could make it go faster. there are some download mangers to do this but wtach out b/c some have spyware. for uploading, i dont think there is much u can do other then make shure all your setings are right. DSLReports.com has many tools to make shure that they are and some speed test to help u find out what the real speed is. realy the only way to make big chages to your speed is to chage or upgrade isps. that or posably hack your modome if it has caps, but some poleop in the U.S. who did that got a vist by the FBI. |
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| Author: | Catalyst [ Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:42 pm ] |
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some isp's let u rebalance the upload/download channels so u could have 50% down, 50% up (or anything in between) not sure if rogers does (prob not) |
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| Author: | Paul [ Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:28 pm ] |
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sometimes the Ethernet cables are not twisted right, I got some one who knows what they're doing to twist mine right, something about colors, and the upload speed went up 10 times. |
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| Author: | Maverick [ Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:37 pm ] |
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Try download accelerator plus. My friends d/l speed went frum like 150 kb/s to 650 kb/s sometimes. Only in IE not Kazaaz or mozilla. |
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| Author: | gamer [ Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:42 pm ] |
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i personally use wireless network G, so it may affect the speed somehow for dling manager, im apparently using flashget (i reli recommend this), its quite easy to use n can break files into 10 pieces (dl at sametime) n my average dlin speed is 350kb/s, which is reli good for wireless i also dl a program called TuneUp Utilities 2004, it basically clean out damaging n uneeded stuffs of your computer, it works pretty good too btw, i hav teh linksys WRT54G, but somehow i also get low signal (im about 40feet away, desktop), does anyone of you kno tips of "boosting" the signal strength? |
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| Author: | Martin [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:27 am ] |
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Put linux on your computer. I've only got a 10 megabit connection...and I get download speeds in the range of 600-800kb/s usually. Uploading around 50-100 too. |
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| Author: | Martin [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:29 am ] |
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Hacker Dan wrote: alougth there are tones of poroges out there
Ahh dan, you are hilarious. There's an m in programs :p |
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| Author: | Dan [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:41 pm ] |
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u have a 10mb conection and only get "600-800kb/s usually. Uploading around 50-100 too."  
that is messed up prity bad there. do u mean your netwrokcard is 10mb b/c if the isp says u have a 10mb conection and u only get 600kb/s there is somting very wrong. i got a 3mb conection and get 2mb to 2.5mb down and 100-250 up. i wish it whold go as fast as the maxium nextork card speed, that whould be sweat. i whould have a 1gb conection then  |
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| Author: | the_short1 [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:15 pm ] |
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... dont forget... their is a difference between MB and Mb.... BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!! use my unit converter to see the diff... *** also that is important for bandwidth tests since they show it in Kb not KB... Kilobits and Kilobytes...... comfusing yet? anways... get my unit converter here: http://geocities.com/the_short22/turing.html ** dont mean to plug... .... i got this autofix thingy from http://www.pcpitstop.com and it helped a bit.... http://www.pcpitstop.com/pcpitstop/autofix.asp?file=IntSpeed.hta note.... upload speeds are almost always much slower then dl speeds cuz u cant bounce off diferent servers **mirrors... my dl speed is 250 KB a sec and upload is 60 KB.... ive got up to 400KB b4... but that was a HUGE file with like 20 mirrors 
other then that.... i use Download Acellerator plus **FULL VERSION*** so i get the extreme excell option it boosts from 100 KB a sec to 200+KB
its sposed to work with opera/mozilla/netscape... but the box is grayed out 
try ur options for the network card in network properties... **in control panel... u could probally tweak the port settings..... somewehre in there u can set the speed thingy.,.. i have mine on auto.... but for me i can set to 10MB full or half duplex and 100MB full or half duplex...... meh... i cant use the 100 ... but i dont really notice a difference... maybe u willl... |
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| Author: | Dan [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:45 pm ] |
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oh, well sory if i messed up the units there (alougth i dont think i did), read martins post to fast. any way i ment my speeds in 1000 kbps and aucaly the upload is 400-500kbps., forgot the isp upgraed that too awhile ago. |
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| Author: | Paul [ Sat Apr 24, 2004 4:26 pm ] |
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well if u wanna check how fast ur upload download between computers are, u use iperf. just run client on one and server on other. |
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| Author: | gamer [ Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:20 pm ] |
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i also heard of people talkin about uncappers for router n cable modem, do u kno how those works n where i can get them? i use rogers with a motorola cable modem |
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| Author: | Dan [ Sat Apr 24, 2004 7:11 pm ] |
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if u uncap your modeum your could be carged with feaderal officencs eh? in the U.S. serveral poleop where arested by the FBI for doing that. It is easy for your ISP to tell if u have done it too, so i whould not remoned it and whould ask that if any knows the awaer to that question they e-mail insted of posting the awser b/c posting the awser whould vaiote the digal meumale act thing in the U.S. and since some of our servers are in the U.S. it whould not be a good thing... also i uses dslreports.com for speed tests or sympactios one. dslreports.com is a gr8 site for leagaly tewaking your net setings. |
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| Author: | gamer [ Sat Apr 24, 2004 7:17 pm ] |
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o.....ic |
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| Author: | roer [ Sun Apr 25, 2004 10:55 am ] |
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Thats because the upload for Rogers is only set at 392 KB/s which is 49 kb/s. Unless you want to uncap your modem then get Bell Sympatico if you need the upload speed |
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| Author: | gamer [ Sun Apr 25, 2004 11:50 am ] |
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which one is better? bell or rogers?? |
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| Author: | Dan [ Sun Apr 25, 2004 6:31 pm ] |
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well i like bell better b/c it is DSL tecnogly rather then cable. also bell just upgraded there serices so they now can go up to 3mbs on noraml HSE plan. |
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| Author: | the_short1 [ Sun Apr 25, 2004 6:38 pm ] |
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ehhehe.... ROER u got it A$$ backwards.... KB is the amount in DATA transfer... and is SMALLER then Kb.... EG. my internet bandwidth is 1800 Kb ... but in acuall DOWNLOAD speed its like 250 KB 
i got SHAW... and its VDG!!! (VERY DAM GOOD) my friend with a good comp and shaw.... he downloads at like 400 KB a sec..... i have a slow comp so i only get 250 |
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| Author: | josh [ Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:04 pm ] |
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also you should call rogers about getting a new box. I had the motoraolla one (it also said shockwave) and when i calld them about my connection being to slow they gave me a new box for free that is way faster, and i hjavent had n e problems with it. 
also while we are on the subject of internet connections I have a D-Link Wirless networks, the router is one level lower than my comp, and I often have problems where I loose the signal and get it back again (but this messes up my msn). Also someytime when I hyave a signal it still says the "this page can not be displyed" thing when I open up IE. Ne one have n e sugestion???? |
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| Author: | Dan [ Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:30 am ] |
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you could make your self a new antent for it. it is not hard at all, u just need a coffien can, a coper wire, some coxaial cable, an n type female chaise mounted conector and the right conecors for your router. also u can make somting out of meatl that will defeted the radio waves in the right direction. should be shaped so that the waves are all defeted towors the curent antenat like a statilet dish. some places also sell wifi bosters for some routers and better anetants witch is costly but can be effective. you may also consider geting at better wifi card or router that has a beter gain. a big thing is placement tho. if it is going throw cenment or metal walls it can be poorly effected. |
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| Author: | josh [ Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:14 pm ] |
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thanx for the suggestions. I just moved my pc today and so far I have not had n e problems except for when I turned on a light in my room that is a long pole with a dimmer in it. Could this posible wghat was effecting it now that the radio waves do not have to travel through the light??? |
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| Author: | the_short1 [ Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:06 pm ] |
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... the lamp... or the light rays?? light... hmmm i dont think so... different kind of rays... **different ends of the spectrum... ** blurry.... cant think... gr.9... ERRR~!!!@!@ |
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| Author: | Dan [ Tue Apr 27, 2004 5:13 pm ] |
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as the_short1 says it is not posable for the light waves/particles to mess with the radio waves BUT the electity and wireing of the light could. if there is somting very wired or wrong with how the light is wired up it could give out a EM feled and mess with the waves and lots of other stuff alougth this is not very likey. some things that could mess with it whold be cell phones, walky talkys, radios (trasmeters) and baby monotrns. the wifi radio wave range is un regualted so alomsot any cheap or wired elcetrioncal device could uses that range. you may whont to try chaging your chanle and seeing if that effects anything. |
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| Author: | josh [ Tue Apr 27, 2004 7:13 pm ] |
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thanx, I did mean the light itself as it is pretty tall (almost like an antenna) and it had a pretty powerfull dimmer in it. |
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| Author: | gamer [ Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:26 pm ] |
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ok as i mentioned b4, im on a wireless adapter while another computer connects to a router....my question is, is there anyway for me to know or check whether anyone else (like outside of my house) is in fact connected to my router? if I cant, how bout the computer thats connected to the router? i do hav the wep(password) on, but some hackers or wutever can easily break thru, so i just wanna check whether or not someone else is using my connection |
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| Author: | shorthair [ Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:54 pm ] |
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actually its not that eas , wardriving itsn as easy as you think , if you have ever seen the broken (underground show ) they teach you the best way to do it , with network stumbler and another app , it can take anywhere from 10 hours , to a few months , it captures packets from the networks and it needs just over a million packets to break in , if your a big companys with say 500 computers on the network , then getting in would be really fast , but a residential would take long long time , the app allows you to save your session so you can come back for a few hours everyday , and keep adding up packetts, SO if you have stealth mode on, and a full 128 WEP key , and Win Pcap , you should never have a problem , |
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| Author: | gamer [ Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:26 pm ] |
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yea but still....ok let say i hav no wep, then is it possible to check?? |
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| Author: | the_short1 [ Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:49 pm ] |
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WEP = Windows Encription Protection ? ?? ? Protocall?? |
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| Author: | roer [ Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:58 pm ] |
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the_short1 wrote: ehhehe.... ROER u got it A$$ backwards....
KB is the amount in DATA transfer... and is SMALLER then Kb.... EG. my internet bandwidth is 1800 Kb ... but in acuall DOWNLOAD speed its like 250 KB
According to the rogers home page they say they offer a 3000/392 profile. So divide by 8 to go from bits to bytes: Download : 3000 KB/s = 375 kb/s Upload : 392 KB/s = 49 kb/s Then take into account an overhead cut of about 10% and you have an approximate speed if everything is set up properly. What was the point of your post? |
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| Author: | the_short1 [ Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:19 pm ] |
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http://www.speedguide.net/conversion.php hmm... u were saying... :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL 
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| Author: | Dan [ Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:20 pm ] |
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gamer wrote: yea but still....ok let say i hav no wep, then is it possible to check??
well some routers will disaply a page of all computers curntly on the netwrok, that could show u if some one is on other then you. also there are some nice tools out there (mostly for linux tho) that will actack as an "introer dection system" and will tell u if any one eltes uses your network. if you do not have wep on or uses MAC addres atuactcation then you should turn that on now. better safe then sory, best thing whould be to have both on, alougth both are not hard to get throw given time and a fast computer (the MAC thing whoul take a few secs tho when throw the wep) |
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| Author: | roer [ Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:29 pm ] |
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Just noticed I made a giant typo  |
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| Author: | gamer [ Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:48 pm ] |
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hacker dan, ok i think the mac is quite useful, but i dun reli get how u use it tho |
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| Author: | the_short1 [ Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:20 am ] |
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roer: yea a major typo... hmmm.... TWICE??? :LOL:
use the a bandwidth meter ... then that speed guide site to test ur internet speed.. http://www.2wire.com/bm/meter.html |
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| Author: | recneps [ Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:09 pm ] |
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i would just like to point out that in my opinion: ROGERS > SYMPATICO! Some people think bell is better now because they "updated" to 3mbps, but rogers was 3mbps to begin with!
So really, bell sucks, and is just catching up. Plus you have to connect... eew  [/u][/i][/b] |
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| Author: | Amailer [ Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:13 pm ] |
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Dude lol, I know how slow rogers is.. either their cheating you or you read something wrong when you looked at rogers high-speed plan, trust me they are SLOW.... |
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| Author: | Dan [ Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:47 pm ] |
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recneps wrote: i would just like to point out that in my opinion:
ROGERS > SYMPATICO! Some people think bell is better now because they "updated" to 3mbps, but rogers was 3mbps to begin with!
So really, bell sucks, and is just catching up. Plus you have to connect... eew [/u][/i][/b]plz understand what u are talking about b4 you starting going on and on. 1st of all bell high speed is not dail up you do not have to connect any more then u do on rogers if u have your hardware set up right. also if rogers and sympatcio are the same speed then sympatcio whould win b/c it uses ADSL tecongly rather then cable. DSL dose not contec u to every one close to you witht the same serice like cable dose. this is a very big secuity isues and also can slow down the net when more poleop are on. also it should be noted that bells lower HSE is 3mbps and there utral is 6-7 (not shure) but rogers lite HSE is 128kbps and there higher one is 3mpbs. with means with bell u are able to upgrade to a higher speed then rogers max speed. alougth i will admint that bell dose cost more but that is only logical since it is a better conection. any how about the MAC addres stuff, your router should have a seting that alows you to only let netwroks cards with securent MAC addres to concect to it. i have a linksys so i whould not know where this seting whould be on a d-link. Tho it should be noted that it is very posable to fake an MAC addres withc whould bypass this. try looking in your mamual u got with the router or on there site to find how to set this up (if it has it). |
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| Author: | roer [ Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:04 pm ] |
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the_short1 wrote: roer: yea a major typo...
hmmm.... TWICE??? :LOL:
use the a bandwidth meter ... then that speed guide site to test ur internet speed.. http://www.2wire.com/bm/meter.html Not sleeping for 2 days might have had something to do with it, I dunno kno...anyways the point about Rogers is that they claim speeds of 3000/392, but when in fact 3/4 of their network is not updated to the new DOCSIS platform. So if you have a Terayon modem [like me...] then you'll be lucky to break 2000 mbps =P http://24.112.31.117/speedtest/, theres a speed test right from rogers =P Oh and BTW Roger's is updating to a 5mbps platform soon, they've already begun to test it with some people. The problem is unless you got a DOCSIS compatible modem your not going to get the full 5mbps |
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| Author: | Paul [ Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:07 pm ] |
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I've used both rogers and bell. Bell sympatico, in my experience seems faster than roger's cable. And no, I don't have to connect, I do it thru my router's PPPoE settings. plus the BEST part is, I don't constantly have rogers ppl with bad accents insisting I use their internet when I already am. and when I refuse, they don't understand. |
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| Author: | Amailer [ Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:29 pm ] |
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better speed that *works* http://www.dslreports.com/stest |
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| Author: | the_short1 [ Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:36 pm ] |
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my shaw is fast enough for me... as long as i download at 100KB minimun <<big B>> a sec.. im happy.. ** although i get much fasta..... my friend easily does 300KB... i think its 3Mb /s max... notice small b... i dont know... they never said... but...e a slow comp so i dont dl as fast... **my friend that has shaw gets WAY fasta then me.. i hav but anyways.... Linksys routers are good ?? dan? cuz that i what im planning on buying.. http://www.compusmart.com/product.asp?CatalogID=0&SupplierPartID=498090.... **u can use Cat 5e cables if u want instead of wireless 
50$$ afta a 35 $$ mail in rebate... cool???... i looked on www.compusmart.ca **they have one in town... and out of all the routers they had on site... this was cheapest ***except this one 2prt roouter... .... cuz none of others had that rebate |
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| Author: | shorthair [ Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:00 pm ] |
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Amiler you cant speak for everyone when you say rogers is slow , thats a pretty stupid remark , you have no evidence to back that up I CAN BACK MINE , my rogers cable is at its maximum speed ( 400kb/s Download ) ( 200Kb/s upload ) not becuase OH YEAH ROGERS ROCKS or because sympatico sucks , but because i live in a small town or 200 peopel and only 30 are on cable internet , all they do is check their mail ( well the way the bandwidth reflects , i would assume that ) ROgers puts about 10 people on hte same pipe in my comunity numbers may vary depending on the area , id say i take up about 90% of that pipe and that is why i go so fast , when you live in downtown toronto and you share a pipe with 30 people that are regular surfers like many of you , you have to all have a semi equal speed to divide your top speed by 30 , to get the equal amount , and that would really slow youu donw, It has some to do with hte main speed , but its realy your location , who is on your pipe , and how close you are to the main server , if you connect through smaller nodes and then to the main rogers servers , you get a weee bit of slowdown , threre are many many factors in the situation , you cant just say good company bad company , some of the factors they do control others can vary from day to day [/quote] |
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| Author: | roer [ Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:02 pm ] |
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Amailer, what modem are you using? |
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| Author: | Amailer [ Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:11 pm ] |
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i use the same thing as dan. aDSL *bell sympatico* |
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| Author: | the_short1 [ Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:42 pm ] |
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good speach short... ' to add to that//. also... ur PC speed.... how much other internet applications u have running... routers / signal (if wireless)... ur connections **good wires etc... ur brand and year of MODEM...... ur port settings... ur NIC card.. so... u cant dis a company... unless... uve had them in more then 3 towns.. and in 2 houses in each of those towns.. ***** plus all the things i mentioned..
then u can have a more acurate idea... .... i need somewhere to rant now that Hacker dan and others got me rallied up on the winamp thingy... and now they kinda ended it or dont care... *** winamp thingy being that some are saying that it sucks...**which is totaly untrue... http://www.compsci.ca/v2/viewtopic.php?t=4555&start=60 but anyways.. hows linksys? |
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| Author: | Dan [ Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:29 pm ] |
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i realy like linksys, they have linux built in to them witch you can hack a turn in to a simple linux box. also they have lots of featchers to mess with and i think there wifi range is good on there routers. BUT i whould never buy another linksys wifi card for my laptop, they do routers well but cards poorly. there cards tend to over heat and some times just randomly stop working. i have both the linksys router and the wifi router and they are gr8, the wifi router i have also has ethernet ports witch is a big help if you have a masive home network like i do and do not whont to buy tones of hubs. |
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| Author: | the_short1 [ Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:12 pm ] |
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cool.... good to know.. is G links or something liek that good??? no... im not confusing with D-link.. **^ are they good?? for the NIC card with the antenea on it ??? \waht is the best company?? PC not labtop.. cuz i want to tell the tenants lioving upstairs *on the thrid floor (BIg house) to get one of them cards so they can FIANNLY have internet..  cuz b4 all they could have in dial up.. |
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| Author: | gamer [ Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:05 pm ] |
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ok i got the mac thing working, but hacker dan, i dun reli understand how u can make an antena by urself, can ya explain deeper?? |
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| Author: | Dan [ Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:13 pm ] |
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here are some sites on making diffrent kinds of antennas for wifi: http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/weblog/view/wlg/448 http://www.wifi-montauban.net/communaute/index.php/DisquettAntennaEnglish you could also buy one, but what fun is that? |
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| Author: | gamer [ Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:50 pm ] |
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ok cool thnx |
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| Author: | recneps [ Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:06 pm ] |
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I would like to point out on this debate of the better ISP: bell has 3 levels. the first 2 are identical in rogers and bell. 128kbps and 3 mbps however sympatico's "NEW FASTER SERVICE" of 6mps is ummm $80/month. twice as fast, but twice the price
and the sharing with ppl in your neighbourhood is no problem for me... my neightbourhood is all seniors... lol a whole.... 5 families with kids on my street... and probly only 1 has cable internet |
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| Author: | roer [ Fri Apr 30, 2004 3:21 pm ] |
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Errr recneps, the Ultra level of Bell Sympatico is 4000/800, not 6mbps....and Roger's has a business package in case you've never heard of it, it's Rogers equivelent of the Ultra package http://www.rogers.com/english/businesssolutions/internetpackages.html |
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| Author: | the_short1 [ Fri Apr 30, 2004 5:57 pm ] |
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..... ...... and if u really wanted im shure each company has an ultra ultra package for 'Special' customers... so
hahahahahahh... whats the best company to buy wireless NIC cards ??? ***for use with a linksys wireless router |
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| Author: | Dan [ Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:11 pm ] |
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i am no lognger going to coment on this dum isp debate, it is all about what tech u like more cable or DSL. any how the best wifi card in my option is made by ORiNOCO, but i only have there laptop card. the linksys one for PC is not bad i was talking about linksys ones for laptop wich sucks. one thing to look for in a card is that it alows u to hoke in an extreanl antnaten. that way if u ever need to bost the rang u can do it easly. |
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| Author: | recneps [ Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:47 pm ] |
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My friend has linksys for pc, not laptop, he says it owns (but then again he hasnt tried another type, so its really just hit and miss.) |
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| Author: | roer [ Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:57 pm ] |
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the_short1 wrote: .....
...... and if u really wanted im shure each company has an ultra ultra package for 'Special' customers... so
Errrr these are residential services as well as commercial services, you don't have to own a multi-million dollar corporation to get an ultra or business package |
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| Author: | the_short1 [ Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:55 pm ] |
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....... . . . . .. . . . . . .. . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . still... if u asked each company if they had somethign to cater to a 20 MB/s (example..) server,... i bet they could arange it ... anythings posible.. its all about the bling blang |
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| Author: | roer [ Sat May 01, 2004 3:02 pm ] |
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the_short1 wrote: ....... . . . . .. . . . . . .. . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . .. . . . . . .
still... if u asked each company if they had somethign to cater to a 20 MB/s (example..) server,... i bet they could arange it ... anythings posible.. its all about the bling blang A server? Or a connection? Theres theoritical limits you know =P I that a large company would use Roger's services. There are special companys for these things |
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| Author: | the_short1 [ Mon May 03, 2004 4:47 pm ] |
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yea.... i gues they would go do a diff company not rogers.... ... well... either way... its all up to the ISP to do what speed... **depends on the hardware they are giving out.. the modems ... and their data lines.. so... they have to think on bugeting and if it would be benificial to have to get EVERY1 new hardware etc to support... |
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