It wuz at muh house....
Computer Science Canada Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
| Author: | Cezna [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
I was writing a Turing program, about 350 - 400 lines, about 3 - 4 hours work (it was all brand-new stuff for me, so I had to learn how to do it). I wanted to cut it out of one directory and put it in another. I cut it out, and when I pasted, it said it was already in use, and so I deleted the folder (thinking it was empty, since the file had a few other Turing files with it and some pictures), and then closed the window that was running the file, and went back to the source directory to cut it again. It wasn't there, and it wasn't in the old directory. Since it was on my flash drive, it didn't go to the recycle bin. I try un-delete and undo and control + z and everything else I could think of, and then had my friend go through with Windows DOS and try everything he could think of, but nothing worked. Is there any way I can get this file back? PS: I know a lot of people will say I should back up my stuff, and I do, very frequently, in fact that is what I was about to do right after I moved the file into it's proper place (as I have everything on my flash drive categorized) when I accidentally deleted the file. |
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| Author: | andrew. [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
Recuva |
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| Author: | Cezna [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
Tried it, but the files didn't show up. Thanks anyway. |
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| Author: | andrew. [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
Really? Recuva always worked for me. Once my uncle deleted every picture off his camera. I was able to restore about 95% of them. |
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| Author: | copthesaint [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
If you deleted of flash drive from school, you have 3 days to recover it before its lost forever, you have to talk to whom ever is in charge of you schools computers at your highschool, and ask HIM to recover your files. If you wait too long to do this, your screwed. |
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| Author: | Cezna [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
It wuz at muh house.... |
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| Author: | copthesaint [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
You can't permanently delete it then, unless you went into your recycling bin and deleted it after, emptied the bin, or unless you were deleting too much for it to fit in your recycling bin. |
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| Author: | Cezna [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
It never went to the recycle bin, as this is the first place I checked. I have deleted many things off my flash drive before (usually intentionally  ), on various computers running various operating systems, and the files have been of widely ranging sizes.
I have never had any of them go into the recycle bin. |
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| Author: | TheGuardian001 [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
Stuff deleted directly from a flash drive is never moved to the recycle bin, cop (not on windows systems, at least)... That would mean taking something that currently occupies no hard disk space, and moving it onto the hard drive so that it occupies space. If Recuva didn't show any recoverable files on the flash drive, it's gone. No copy should have been made on your pc. |
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| Author: | DtY [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
Are you sure it's not in the recycling bin? Put the thumb drive in, and then check the recycling bin? |
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| Author: | TheGuardian001 [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
DtY @ Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:00 pm wrote: Are you sure it's not in the recycling bin? Put the thumb drive in, and then check the recycling bin?
Stuff from flash drives does not go to the recycling bin. Ever. That would mean that deleting files from a flash drive would put information that was never on your hard drive in the first place on to your hard drive. |
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| Author: | Cezna [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
Checked the recycle like 30 times because I was so horrified when I realized it was gone. I also did a test to see if I could use undelete, aka, control + z, or the button up at the top of a window (which would mean it was in the recycle). Note that I did this like half an hour after I deleted the file, a half hour during which I tried everything else I could think of to get the file back. I created a new folder, did not rename it, deleted it, and then tried control + z and the undelete button in the tab at the top of the window (I think it is in Edit). I did the same test with a Turing file. I could restore it if I was doing this test on one of the drives permanently installed on my computer, such as the C: drive, but I could not restore the file if it was coming off the F: drive. Also, whenever I delete anything off my flash drive, it doesn't show the little animation of the file going into the recycle, but instead shows the little papers coming out of the file on the left and "exploding" on the right. Just so everyone knows, I have rewritten the program now (better, stronger and faster), so I no longer need to get it back, but I would still like to know why I couldn't... |
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| Author: | andrew. [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
By default, the recycling bin is disabled for removable flash drives. Unless you turned this feature on, the file should not have been moved to the recycle bin. If you did turn it on however, there should be a hidden folder called $RECYCLED or something like that. Inside of there would have stuff that you placed in the recycle bin. |
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| Author: | Cezna [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
How do I turn this feature on? Is it a setting for the flash drive, or a setting for the computer? Also, where should this hidden $RECYLCED folder be, on the desktop? |
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| Author: | TheGuardian001 [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
It's possible that your flash drive simply handles deletion as permanent by actually resetting the data, as opposed to marking the space as empty while not actually modifying the data (although that seems unlikely.) Did you run recuva with admin privileges? Because it can't correctly access usb devices without them for some reason. |
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| Author: | Cezna [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
TheGuardian001 @ Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:16 pm wrote: Did you run recuva with admin privileges? Because it can't correctly access usb devices without them for some reason.
Yes. When I tried to run it without, it said it needed administrator privileges to run properly, as it needed to scan drives, so I logged in as admin to run the scan. Also note that I used the deep scan option and ran it several times in all possible locations, yet none of the Turing files or images in question came up. Also, as an aside, for some reason there were files that came up in Recuva that were listed as last modified in 2000 and 2002, even though I have only had the drive since 2009 (and I am pretty sure it was new, since the place where I bought it sells some good quality used stuff, being a surplus store, but there were like 20 of the same flash drive in the box, so I doubt they were used). Were these possible files from manufacture? |
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| Author: | copthesaint [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
@TheGuardian001 my windows Xp does copy from the flash and moves to recycling bin :p lol. however it doesnt for my vista. + i never delete anything off it, i just reformat my whole computer XD, Is your flash drive one of the ones that automatically install updates to update the driver? Cause I was thinking, maybe you can restore a previous state and save the file :p that would be a miracle coincidence though lol I suggest you forget about this, and stop waisting your time trying to restore your file XD, when you should be working on making a new one lol. Murphy`s Law wins! What can happen will! its happened to me losts! hence why I have issues working a long period of time on one project! lol |
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| Author: | Cezna [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
As posted above (well not really above, since this is another page, so I will say previously), I have already rewritten the file, but at this point I was just curious and wanting to be prepared for future problems. |
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| Author: | andrew. [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
Cezna @ Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:12 pm wrote: Also, where should this hidden $RECYLCED folder be, on the desktop?
It should be in the root of the drive. Although, I believe that anything in this folder would show up in the recycling bin once you plug the USB in. |
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| Author: | DtY [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
TheGuardian001 @ Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:04 pm wrote: DtY @ Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:00 pm wrote: Are you sure it's not in the recycling bin? Put the thumb drive in, and then check the recycling bin?
Stuff from flash drives does not go to the recycling bin. Ever. That would mean that deleting files from a flash drive would put information that was never on your hard drive in the first place on to your hard drive. |
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| Author: | Euphoracle [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
Nothing deleted from a usb drive goes to the recycling bin on windows... that's only on mac and maybe linux. |
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| Author: | andrew. [ Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
Like DtY said, on Linux and Mac systems, it makes a folder in the root. On Mac, I believe it's called ".trashes" and various Linux distros may call it something else. Anyway, this behaviour is different from Windows because Windows doesn't create a folder unless you tell it to make a recycle bin for that drive. |
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| Author: | Cezna [ Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Accidentally Deleted a File Off Flash Drive |
Alright, thank you all for the help. As I said, I have rewritten the program, but I will remember to be more careful next time I am doing anything on my falsh drive on Win XP. |
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