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Desktops at university?

Author:  x30Jx [ Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:18 pm ]
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I am currently pondering my computation future, and right now I can go two ways:
Buy a mountain mods U2 UFO, get some killer components, and build a nice, fast rig with LOTS of storage space (I plan to run Mac OS X on it, but don't tell anyone....)
Buy a laptop (more than likely a Macbook Pro, sometime after Snow Leopard is released, either this fall, or next fall when I am about to leave for university.)

Now, the only thing I am worried about is the logic of having a desktop at university. If I build the desktop, I will be buying a notebook to bring with me to classes.

So let me know what you think, interwebz.

Author:  x30Jx [ Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:27 pm ]
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anybody?

Author:  jbking [ Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:44 pm ]
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The question I'd have is what uses do you have for this desktop, which can be any of the folowing:

1) Gaming - Crysis, Oblivion and other games can require some big graphics horsepower so going with a desktop may make sense in terms of handling upgrades over time if you want to keep a high-end gaming system up to leading edge components.

2) Home Theatre - Do you plan on watching a lot of videos and want a good video and audio experience here?

3) Development a.k.a. programming - Will it need to run an IDE or two? How about database and web server software? Would numerical analysis or symbolic computation programs like Matlab or Maple be of interest to you?

4) Graphics design / Video editing - Does it need loads of memory for things like Photoshop?

5) AutoCAD - Maybe you want something to handle drawing blueprints.

6) Office Productivity - E-mail, excel spreadsheets and word documents.

7) Digital Photography - Kind of falls into 4 but I thought I'd make it something else.

8) Web browsing - Kind of like 6 in some ways if one goes for all the big browser versions on one box with varying resolutions.

Those are the big ones to my mind and some do have potentially conflicting capabilities as a graphics workstation may not make for a good gaming rig I believe though if I'm wrong someone please correct me.

Author:  x30Jx [ Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:57 pm ]
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jbking @ Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:44 pm wrote:
The question I'd have is what uses do you have for this desktop, which can be any of the folowing:

1) Gaming - Crysis, Oblivion and other games can require some big graphics horsepower so going with a desktop may make sense in terms of handling upgrades over time if you want to keep a high-end gaming system up to leading edge components.

I dont do much gaming, and when I do, it is almost always on consoles.

2) Home Theatre - Do you plan on watching a lot of videos and want a good video and audio experience here?

I would love to, but I dont nessecarily need a 'bolted into the ground' setup. Could I get away with using a large external hard drive with a laptop, and just connected to an HDTV?

3) Development a.k.a. programming - Will it need to run an IDE or two? How about database and web server software? Would numerical analysis or symbolic computation programs like Matlab or Maple be of interest to you?

Well, I am going into Soft Eng (hopefully), so I will have do to some programming work, but again, could I not get away with a laptop hooked up to a larger monitor?

4) Graphics design / Video editing - Does it need loads of memory for things like Photoshop?

Nope.

5) AutoCAD - Maybe you want something to handle drawing blueprints.

Nope. Possible, occasional use of like Google sketchUP.

6) Office Productivity - E-mail, excel spreadsheets and word documents.

Gmail. Thats about it. Spreadshets and Word Documents: Do I really need a desktop?

7) Digital Photography - Kind of falls into 4 but I thought I'd make it something else.

Nope.

8) Web browsing - Kind of like 6 in some ways if one goes for all the big browser versions on one box with varying resolutions.

Nothing that needs more than one window, but I often have 6+ FF tabs open

Those are the big ones to my mind and some do have potentially conflicting capabilities as a graphics workstation may not make for a good gaming rig I believe though if I'm wrong someone please correct me.


Wow. Thank you for this rather comprehensive response. This has definitely triggered some thoughts that a laptop would likely be wiser than a desktop.

Author:  jbking [ Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:05 pm ]
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I'd have a few questions about your laptop idea then:

1) Are the laptop speakers going to be OK for whatever sound you need to come out of the laptop,e.g. video clips, movies or music?

2) While an HDTV is an option, are you prepared to be swapping monitor sizes as that likely won't match what the computer labs have in terms of monitor resolutions probably?

3) Would you want a folding desktop in terms of power, e.g. quad-core with many GBs of RAM and not care about battery life, or something small where there may be keyboard size changes between a regular USB keyboard and the laptop's built-in keyboard to handle?

Just as a parting thought here, when I was in university I had a 486/33Mhz computer that had to have its RAM upgraded so it could handle Matlab, but that is a story from those olden days that are almost 14 years ago now.

Author:  ecookman [ Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:20 pm ]
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laptop choice-solved

http://www1.ca.dell.com/ca/en/home/Laptops/laptop-studio-1555/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-studio-1555&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&~oid=ca~en~70702~studnb_1555_en_feat_2~~

Author:  implosion [ Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:24 pm ]
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it seems to me everyone is going for the Dell Studio 15... i was talking to a few friends and that's what they're getting, and i'm probably going to get it too. haha my mom was like spend as much as you need on a laptop so that it will last you for university =P but i'm not going to go ridiculously over board. =)

Author:  x30Jx [ Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:34 pm ]
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1) More than likely, yes, but if I absolutely detest the quality, then hey, there are always some Harmon/Kardon SoundStix to be had.

2) Absolutely. I am a flexible guy like that.

3) Very Likely not. I think my optimal setup would be like a desk with a big monitor / the HDTV on the wall with a pair of speakers, a keyboard, and a mouse (wireless), and just like power, video and audio cords for my laptop, and I just have to plug those three in to get a full desk setup.

Like this but neater and symmetrical and I MUST HAVE THIS but with a nicer screen and the SoundSticks. A nice mashup of these two would be gold.

That's my idea.


WOW. Hang on, lemme see if that computer still contains like liquid mercury from before it was banned in like the 60's. Goodness. Goes to show you how lightweight (read: O L D) OSs and software were back then.

Author:  x30Jx [ Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:47 pm ]
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ecookman @ Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:20 pm wrote:


See, I don't think I can force myself to buy another Dell; I want a Macbook Pro.
Besides, looks are a big factor for me, and that thing is all wedgy and perforated and black and grey. It's too cookie cutter for me.

Author:  ecookman [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:02 pm ]
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implosion @ Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:24 pm wrote:
it seems to me everyone is going for the Dell Studio 15... i was talking to a few friends and that's what they're getting, and i'm probably going to get it too. haha my mom was like spend as much as you need on a laptop so that it will last you for university =P but i'm not going to go ridiculously over board. =)



psssh, whats wrong with spending 8K on a fully loaded alienware m17X

Author:  ecookman [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:04 pm ]
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Dell studio 17 review

I have the same laptop (except 1gb less RAM and 256 ded gpu, and the 17" screen) I added a blacklit keyboard and bluetoth.

Personally, i have no complaints about the laptop, it can play crysis at high spec no AA, (whit the better ram and gpu you could go a lot higher)

+'s
good speakers
good touchpad
manages heat well
touchpad buttons are a good size
keyboard is one of the best i have ever used (i prefer it over my G15)
media touch controls

-
screen is a little close to the keyboard, you will want to put a papertowel in between the screen so the keyboard doesn't become imprinted onto the screen.
fans are a little noisy (arent all of them tho)
battery life sucks unless yo turn off bluetooth, lower the brightness, and put a gigantic hold on the GPU (i set mine to like 20%)
i have the 6 cell battery and on powersaver i get upto 3.5 hrs of battery running IE, word, and listening to stuff through itunes.
touch controols can't be reconfigured
very....extremely BIOS...no tweeking here



all in all 3.8/5 only minor complaints.

p.s
get rid of vista as fast as you can!!!!

Author:  ecookman [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:21 pm ]
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some pics of my laptop...pardon the messy desk, last minuite cramming= mess

Author:  x30Jx [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:22 pm ]
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ecookman @ Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:04 pm wrote:
Dell studio 17 review

I have the same laptop (except 1gb less RAM and 256 ded gpu, and the 17" screen) I added a blacklit keyboard and bluetoth.

Personally, i have no complaints about the laptop, it can play crysis at high spec no AA, (whit the better ram and gpu you could go a lot higher)

+'s
good speakers
good touchpad
manages heat well
touchpad buttons are a good size
keyboard is one of the best i have ever used (i prefer it over my G15)
media touch controls

-
screen is a little close to the keyboard, you will want to put a papertowel in between the screen so the keyboard doesn't become imprinted onto the screen.
fans are a little noisy (arent all of them tho)
battery life sucks unless yo turn off bluetooth, lower the brightness, and put a gigantic hold on the GPU (i set mine to like 20%)
i have the 6 cell battery and on powersaver i get upto 3.5 hrs of battery running IE, word, and listening to stuff through itunes.
touch controols can't be reconfigured
very....extremely BIOS...no tweeking here



all in all 3.8/5 only minor complaints.

p.s
get rid of vista as fast as you can!!!!


Kay well that, versus a MacBook Pro with no complaints of keyboard-glass contact (because the keyboard is recessed into the body)
Every review calling it 'next to silent' until you activate the second graphics card (W00t at having two!) and start boosting the fan speeds manually.
Battery Life: 7 hours. WIN
Inline, logical media, brightness, and app keys. Also, the Mac 'chicklet' keyboard is my favorite keyboard to use, hands down.
No BIOS to worry about at all
Oh, and the best part of all: NO VISTA. Like EVER. Very Happy

So Yeah, apparently MacBook Pro OM NOM NOM NOM NOMs the Studio 17.

Author:  ecookman [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:24 pm ]
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the keyboard has about about half a cm of clearence, but when things start pushing down on the screen, then contact happens

Author:  endless [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:31 pm ]
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x30Jx @ Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:22 pm wrote:

Kay well that, versus a MacBook Pro with no complaints of keyboard-glass contact (because the keyboard is recessed into the body)
Every review calling it 'next to silent' until you activate the second graphics card (W00t at having two!) and start boosting the fan speeds manually.
Battery Life: 7 hours. WIN
Inline, logical media, brightness, and app keys. Also, the Mac 'chicklet' keyboard is my favorite keyboard to use, hands down.
No BIOS to worry about at all
Oh, and the best part of all: NO VISTA. Like EVER. Very Happy

So Yeah, apparently MacBook Pro OM NOM NOM NOM NOMs the Studio 17.


totally agree with you, but keep in mind, you wont actually get 7 hours battery life unless you basically have the screen dark and doing minimal work.
gizmodo has the 15'' MBP playing a H.264 movie for almost 3:50h.

heres the giz review: http://gizmodo.com/5287179/macbook-pro-2009-review

i'd definitely recommend the MBP since you are already thinking about it.

Author:  implosion [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:12 pm ]
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ecookman wrote:

Dell studio 17 review

I have the same laptop (except 1gb less RAM and 256 ded gpu, and the 17" screen) I added a blacklit keyboard and bluetoth.

Personally, i have no complaints about the laptop, it can play crysis at high spec no AA, (whit the better ram and gpu you could go a lot higher)

+'s
good speakers
good touchpad
manages heat well
touchpad buttons are a good size
keyboard is one of the best i have ever used (i prefer it over my G15)
media touch controls

-
screen is a little close to the keyboard, you will want to put a papertowel in between the screen so the keyboard doesn't become imprinted onto the screen.
fans are a little noisy (arent all of them tho)
battery life sucks unless yo turn off bluetooth, lower the brightness, and put a gigantic hold on the GPU (i set mine to like 20%)
i have the 6 cell battery and on powersaver i get upto 3.5 hrs of battery running IE, word, and listening to stuff through itunes.
touch controols can't be reconfigured
very....extremely BIOS...no tweeking here



all in all 3.8/5 only minor complaints.

p.s
get rid of vista as fast as you can!!!!


does it really make a big difference whether to get the 15 or 17 ?... i'm going to be living at home and pretty much using it as a main computer... but second year i'm going to try and trasfer somewhere else where i'dbe living in rez or off campus, away from home.. though i'd still paper and pencil my lectures... i don't do a ton of gaming (thats what my ps3 is for FTW =D)... if i were to play games it'd be halo or COD and i was thinking of getting a 9 cell battery... how long would my battery life be then ?... and on Dell's site if you get a 9 cell.. do you get both 6 AND 9 ?... and also on there site.. does that include taxes etc. ?

Author:  x30Jx [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:13 pm ]
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Thinking about it? I am SALIVATING about it.

See, that's why I love giz.
[quote=GIZMODO]
medium brightness, Wi-Fi on, keyboard backlight on low, H.264 movie
[/quote]

versus stupid reviewers, who do lame stuff like "Screen brightness : ultra low, wifi off, backlight off, displaying 5555 in text edit"

It's like WTF? Who does that, EVER?

Anyway, Just curious if anyone knows if today's Macbook Pro (15inch, 2.8 or 2.66, 500GB, 4GB RAM) will last from now, THROUGH my Grade 12 year, and THROUGH four years of university, or if I should wait until just before university.

Thoughts?


Also, thank you to everyone who is weighing in on this this, so much. It's nice to hear others thoughts on things.

Author:  endless [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:30 pm ]
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i think you would be safe buying a MBP whenever you want since they just came out last week, it will be a while until their next release of MBP's. although with only one laptop in the "MacBook" section now, it is expected that a new line of MB's will be released, possibly before the Snow Leopard release and probably at a lower price point than ever before.

but if you still have a year of high school left, its possible that there might be another release of MBP's before Sept. 2010, but i dont think it will really matter (i bought the 13'' unibody MB around october last year with no regrets even though it was cut short on the market)

in terms of longevity, it hasn't been long with the unibody macs, but if the macs carry on with their reputation for reliability, then it should last uni.

Author:  Horus [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:06 pm ]
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I might buy a laptop too.

from this post it seems MBP is the best.

but I'm a window user, I haven't used any mac computer since gr 8 in school. and those mac computers were a pain in the ass for me cause I just can't get used to the close button on the top left side, and it's so hard to navigate though. I never knew how to open another window of netscape properly, I usually have to go on a website that gives pops ad or something to get another window. Basically it took me at least 3 times longer to do a task on mac than windows.

I heard it's better now that you can have a setting that moves the close button to the top right side. but not sure about other stuff. Just wondering if mac can adjust to have those basic functions that I use everyday such as: alt-F4, alt-tab, window-D and etc.

Also some programs cannot run in Mac. (in fact a game I play can't run in Mac, though i should probably quit now that I'm going to university) just wondering if there's any program that I'll be using in university that cannot run in Mac.

Author:  endless [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:19 pm ]
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yes there is a download to move the buttons to the right side. i think you will find the switch to mac quite intuitive, i know i did. things like alt-tab are built into the trackpad by using a four finger swipe sideways.

there are programs you can get that you can use windows only software. though im not sure if you can rig something up to play wow on (if thats the game you're talking about lol).

if i recall correctly, you are going to UW for CS too? i remember reading somewhere (maybe here) that some CS profs recommend MacBooks for the program. definitely wont run into serious compatibility issues at uni, i think half of the computer labs at UW are mac.

Author:  Euphoracle [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:22 pm ]
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I have a small netbook and a desktop. Dunno if that matters at all.

Author:  ssy [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:41 am ]
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What about the Dell Studio 14z? Is it a good laptop? Is it the same as Studio 15 but with a smaller screen?

Author:  Prabhakar Ragde [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:29 am ]
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Horus @ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:06 pm wrote:

but I'm a window user, I haven't used any mac computer since gr 8 in school. and those mac computers were a pain in the ass for me cause I just can't get used to the close button on the top left side, and it's so hard to navigate though. I never knew how to open another window of netscape properly, I usually have to go on a website that gives pops ad or something to get another window. Basically it took me at least 3 times longer to do a task on mac than windows.


It will only take you a few days to adapt, and if you can't adapt, you have bigger problems than your choice of computer.

Author:  x30Jx [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:45 am ]
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Horus @ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:06 pm wrote:
I might buy a laptop too.

from this post it seems MBP is the best.

but I'm a window user, I haven't used any mac computer since gr 8 in school. and those mac computers were a pain in the ass for me cause I just can't get used to the close button on the top left side, and it's so hard to navigate though. I never knew how to open another window of netscape properly, I usually have to go on a website that gives pops ad or something to get another window. Basically it took me at least 3 times longer to do a task on mac than windows.

I heard it's better now that you can have a setting that moves the close button to the top right side. but not sure about other stuff. Just wondering if mac can adjust to have those basic functions that I use everyday such as: alt-F4, alt-tab, window-D and etc.

Also some programs cannot run in Mac. (in fact a game I play can't run in Mac, though i should probably quit now that I'm going to university) just wondering if there's any program that I'll be using in university that cannot run in Mac.


A few thoughts:
If people can expect an Eighth Grader to be able to use one, then surely an undergrad at university can operate it Very Happy. And yes, you should eventually get used to the close buttons being where they are, but in the end, it does not really matter.

There is a difference between 'basic functions' and 'Windows shortcuts'. Yes, Mac does have those very same shortcuts, but they are a little different: alt-F4 = Command + Q, alt-tab = Expose or Command + Tab (scroll through applications backward) or Shift + Command + tab (same, but forward), and Windows + D = Expose, Option + Command + M (Minimizes all windows, so exact same), or three- or four-finger swipe up (depending on mac model and user setup) Furthermore, the mouse can be setup to do all of these functions without keyboard funtions at all (word for the trackpads). And yes, even I occasionally fumble up ant try to Control-V instead of Command-V, but I am getting better.

Programs in Mac: I am shocked that none of us Mac|Nerds have shoved this down your throat yet. Virtualize using VMWare Fusion. Virtualize using Parallels. Reboot into Windows via BootCamp. Emulate using CrossOver (only some programs). So to answer the question, no, there is no program built for Windows or Mac that cannot run on a Mac.

So now I am set on a MacBook Pro. Final two issues: Which size and when? I think I will be forced to wait until at least next summer to buy a laptop by my Mom, so possibly the new MacBooks will launch by then (I still think I will stick to the MacBook Pros).

But what size? 13 has no 9600M, and only one audio jack that you must manually switch twixt mic and headphones. 13 has but one fan, and 15 has a pair. Both are laid out extremely well on the interior (points to iFixit Teardown), not to mention the exterior.

Looks like the 15 inch MacBook Pro is for me.

Author:  Milamber [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:00 am ]
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There are actually some good deals right now on "last-gen" unibody 15's with the 9600. If I remember correctly the only difference between the two is a slightly faster processor in the new ones and a bit more ram, a non-removable battery and an sd slot instead of expresscard. However, for the price difference these changes are negligible. I think you can get a "refurbished" (clearing out old stock) 15 inch for around $1500.

I'm actually trying to decide between a refurb 15 and a Thinkpad T400 right now.

For those of you that have lived in University how much effort is moving around a monitor with you if you bring one?

Author:  jernst [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:34 am ]
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Milamber @ Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:00 am wrote:
For those of you that have lived in University how much effort is moving around a monitor with you if you bring one?


It depends on what type of monitor you have an how much care you want to give it. if you have a really nice lcd, then you will need lots of care to prevent it from getting scratched or broken. If its a junker old crt then you can pretty much throw them around and not worry about them

Author:  wtd [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:08 am ]
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x30Jx @ Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:13 am wrote:
Anyway, Just curious if anyone knows if today's Macbook Pro (15inch, 2.8 or 2.66, 500GB, 4GB RAM) will last from now, THROUGH my Grade 12 year, and THROUGH four years of university, or if I should wait until just before university.


Speaking as an Apple technician (though not directly employed by Apple but rather a third party service center), any Mac will be viable as long as AppleCare coverage lasts.

Aside from things like RAM and hard drive, replacing any part on a Mac will cost significantly more than the AppleCare price. If it fails out of warranty, even in a small way, you're probably going to be thinking about buying a new one instead of fixing it.

Author:  DemonWasp [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:16 am ]
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wtd @ Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:08 am wrote:
Aside from things like RAM and hard drive, replacing any part on a Mac will cost significantly more than the AppleCare price. If it fails out of warranty, even in a small way, you're probably going to be thinking about buying a new one instead of fixing it.


...or, fixing it yourself. My girlfriend's MacBook (1,1 revision) lost its hard drive a while ago. It made a wonderful scraping and not-spinning-up sound, then displayed a flashing folder icon on the screen - I guess that's the equivalent of "hal.dll not found" in Windows. We replaced the disk and installed Ubuntu (while the new hard disk was in the mail, she ran entirely off the LiveCD). There are some lingering issues - webcam needs some sort of proprietary driver, I haven't had time to make mouseemu do right-click and middle-click correctly - but overall it's working out well for her.

Author:  delparnel [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:32 am ]
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Definitely go with the Macbook Pro.

I've had my Macbook Pro for over 3 years, and have had very few issues with it.

It managed to get dust behind the LCD somehow... but this is a very rare issue, and Apple fixed it without question.

I can't stress enough how important it is to get AppleCare though.

-dkl

Author:  wtd [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:59 pm ]
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DemonWasp @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:16 am wrote:
wtd @ Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:08 am wrote:
Aside from things like RAM and hard drive, replacing any part on a Mac will cost significantly more than the AppleCare price. If it fails out of warranty, even in a small way, you're probably going to be thinking about buying a new one instead of fixing it.


...or, fixing it yourself. My girlfriend's MacBook (1,1 revision) lost its hard drive a while ago. It made a wonderful scraping and not-spinning-up sound, then displayed a flashing folder icon on the screen - I guess that's the equivalent of "hal.dll not found" in Windows. We replaced the disk and installed Ubuntu (while the new hard disk was in the mail, she ran entirely off the LiveCD). There are some lingering issues - webcam needs some sort of proprietary driver, I haven't had time to make mouseemu do right-click and middle-click correctly - but overall it's working out well for her.


Yes, hard drives can be quite inexpensively and easily replaced. Now, imagine something borks up on the motherboard? Even if you're comfortable doing the repair yourself, getting the part is going to be probably in the realm of $900.

Author:  x30Jx [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:30 pm ]
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Sadly, he is bang on.
http://www.ifixit.com/MacBook-Parts/MacBook-Pro-15-Inch-Unibody-2-4-GHz-Logic-Board/IF161-005

Author:  x30Jx [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:33 pm ]
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Quote:
...or, fixing it yourself. My girlfriend's MacBook (1,1 revision) lost its hard drive a while ago. It made a wonderful scraping and not-spinning-up sound, then displayed a flashing folder icon on the screen - I guess that's the equivalent of "hal.dll not found" in Windows. We replaced the disk and installed Ubuntu (while the new hard disk was in the mail, she ran entirely off the LiveCD). There are some lingering issues - webcam needs some sort of proprietary driver, I haven't had time to make mouseemu do right-click and middle-click correctly - but overall it's working out well for her.


Wouldn't you just reinstall Mac OS X?

Author:  ecookman [ Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:02 am ]
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or windows

Author:  wtd [ Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:20 pm ]
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x30Jx @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:30 am wrote:


For what it's worth, this is fairly consistent with the rest of the industry. Cheap $800 Toshiba laptop has a motherboard that'll probably run $500 or so. If I were doing that repair out of warranty, with labour, shipping and handling and all other costs factored in, I'd probably charge at least $800 before sales tax.

Author:  x30Jx [ Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:18 pm ]
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I think I have come to my conclusion:
I am going to sell my PC, this summer, and but a 2009 Mac Mini with the cash. Meanwhile, I will be saving up for the Macbook Pro I will be buying just before University. This will allow a few things:

Me to have a backup computer in case anything goes wrong
me to get a mac ASAP
me to have a computer that can be used as an almost dedicated entertainment system, but also torrent downloader, video converter, and will enable me to multitask more efficiently.

Cult of Apple, here I come!

Author:  endless [ Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:40 pm ]
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Welcome to the dark side, you will discover powers you never thought possible.

Author:  x30Jx [ Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:57 pm ]
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can I stop those I love from dying?

Oh my god I am such a nerd. Someone get em out of the basement and drunk RIGHT NOW.

Very Happy


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