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Math problem

Author:  tjmoore1993 [ Mon May 11, 2009 3:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Math problem

I am not sure what this is classified under but my friend didn't quite comprehend this as well and needs to figure it out.

Scenario:
Bobby and his friend went the the carnival. Children pay $1.50 and adults pay $4.00 to gain admission. On certain days, they had 200 guests and made a total of
$550. How many adults went and how many children went.


Given
C = Children
A = Adult

I am not sure on how to set up the equation. If someone could help then thanks Smile

Author:  DemonWasp [ Mon May 11, 2009 3:24 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Math problem

Let C be the number of children. Let A be the number of adults. You should be able to figure out an equation for profit, P, in the form:

P = some function of A and C, as well as the prices 1.50 and 4.00.

Your other equation is that C+A = 200. You know this because the total number of guests is C+A, and the number of guests on that day is 200.

Author:  tjmoore1993 [ Mon May 11, 2009 3:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RE:Math problem

DemonWasp @ Mon May 11, 2009 3:24 pm wrote:
Let C be the number of children. Let A be the number of adults. You should be able to figure out an equation for profit, P, in the form:

P = some function of A and C, as well as the prices 1.50 and 4.00.

Your other equation is that C+A = 200. You know this because the total number of guests is C+A, and the number of guests on that day is 200.


Well what we are trying to do is something like

1x + 2y = 2000
2x + 3y = 2000

It can't be done so we must do this

(1x + 2y = 2000 ) * (2)

2x + 4y = 4000
-2x + 3y = 2000
--------------------
1y = 2000
y = 2000


2x + 4(2000) = 4000
2x + 8000 = 4000
2x = 4000 - 8000
2x = -4000
x = -2000

X = -2000
Y = 2000

Author:  DanielG [ Mon May 11, 2009 5:03 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Math problem

that's one way of doing it, but not the only way, for your example of:
1x+2y=2000
2x+3y=2000

you can also solve it by doing folliwing
move y to other side for first equation so
x = 2000-2y
substitute that back into the x of the second equation so
2(2000-2y) + 3y = 2000
solving for y gives you the y value, then it is easy to solve for x.

Author:  jeffgreco13 [ Mon May 11, 2009 5:56 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Math problem

550 = 1.5C + 4A
200 = C + A
------------------
A = 200 - C
550 = 1.5C + 4(200 - C)
550 = 1.5C + 800 - 4C
-250 = -2.5C
C = 100
550 = 150 + 4A
A = 100

Author:  jbking [ Mon May 11, 2009 6:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Math problem

There are a couple of other ways to solve this, to my mind if one wanted to circumvent equations:

1) Note that $1.50+$4.00 = $5.50 or 1% of what was made. Thus there were 100 of each for an initial guess that would total $550 taken in and also passes the other required condition of there being 200 guests.

2) Note that there is a difference of $2.50 as part of changing the admission. If all 200 guests were either children or adults we would have incorrect totals of $300 or $800 depending on which way one wanted to assume. The difference between those and the $550 take in is $250 which means that 100 adults or 100 children had to be in there, respectively.

Granted these are sort of "tricks" to get those values of 100 for each the number of children and adults but sometimes problems are set up this way.

Author:  tjmoore1993 [ Tue May 12, 2009 2:59 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Math problem

I solved the problem! The actual equation is

1.50c + 4.00a = 5050
c + a = 2200
--------------------------

(c+a = 2200) * 4.00


1.50c + 4.00a = 5050
- 4.00c + 4.00a = 8800
----------------------------
-2.50c + 0.00a = -3750
-2.50c = -3750
c = -3750 / -2.50
c = 1500

1.50c + 4.00a = 5050
1.50(1500) + 4.00a = 5050
2250 + 4.00a = 5050
4.00a = 5050 - 2250
4.00a = 2800
a = 2800 / 4.00
a = 700

.: There were a total of 1500 children and 700 adults attending the carnival.

Author:  andrew. [ Tue May 12, 2009 8:48 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Math problem

I did it like this:

Let C represent the number of children and A represent the number of adults.

1.50C + 4.00A = 550
C + A = 200

A = 200 - C
1.50C + 4.00(200 - C) = 550
1.50C + 800 - 4.00C = 550
1.50C - 4.00C = 550 - 800
-2.50C = -250
C = 250/2.50
C = 100

A = 200 - C
A = 200 - 100
= 100

Therefore there were 100 children and 100 adults.

Edit: Just wanted to add, this is the way they teach you in grade 10. I figured it would be more helpful to your friend to see it the way they teach it in school.

Author:  matt271 [ Tue May 12, 2009 11:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Math problem

1.50C + 4A = 550
C + A = 200

[C + A = 200] * 4
4C + 4A = 800

[4C + 4A = 800]
-[1.50C + 4A = 550]
2.5C = 250
C = 250/2.5 = 2500/25 = 100

there C = 100
C + A = 200
A = 200 - C = 200 - 100 = 100
therefore A = 100

Author:  Clayton [ Wed May 13, 2009 7:54 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Math problem

When I'm solving a problem like this, I like to have as few variables as possible (makes for neater/easier modelling). So we get:

Let A be the number of adults attending the carnival.
Let (200 - A) be the number of children attending the carnival.

4A + 1.5(200 - A) = 550
2.5A + 300 = 550
2.5A = 250
A = 250/2.5
A = 100

.: there was 100 adults and (200 - 100) = 100 children at the carnival.

Author:  jeffgreco13 [ Thu May 14, 2009 12:02 am ]
Post subject:  RE:Math problem

i wonder how many more ppl will post the same answer to this question?

Author:  [Gandalf] [ Thu May 14, 2009 12:07 am ]
Post subject:  RE:Math problem

Haha I was thinking the same thing... Why is everyone posting their version of the solution? Isn't 5 answers enough? Confused Smile

Author:  jernst [ Thu May 14, 2009 8:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RE:Math problem

[quote="[Gandalf] @ Thu May 14, 2009 12:07 am"]Haha I was thinking the same thing... Why is everyone posting their version of the solution? Isn't 5 answers enough? Confused Smile[/quote]

everyone wants to feel smart sometimes Razz

Author:  Clayton [ Thu May 14, 2009 9:27 am ]
Post subject:  RE:Math problem

My point was there is more than one way to solve any given problem. My method had not been posted, so I did.

Author:  matt271 [ Thu May 14, 2009 8:29 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Math problem

most ppl prob read the question and none of the replies Razz


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