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How can I tell if the TV is HD?

Author:  isaiahk9 [ Fri May 08, 2009 5:34 pm ]
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Call me stupid, but I don't know if this TV I have is High Definition, or capable of it.
The story goes, that my brother who is at an Ivy-league University was roommates with a ridiculously rich Greek (his family owns its own island). When the Greek left for Summer holidays, he left behind some of his stuff, to either be taken by his roommates or thrown out. Besides a PS2, some video games and a sound-system, a pretty small flat-screen TV was found. Now I have the TV.
So I have the choice of two TVs to use (mostly for gaming). There is a larger, definitely not-HD TV. Or, there is the slightly smaller screen, with brighter colors and higher resolution. They're at about a stalemate, so I was wondering if the flat-screen was HD.
The TV has no manual, and probably can't pick up any TV channels (so I can't just turn to a HD channel to test it). Is there something on the hardware, or some way to test it to find out if the TV is HD?

ty

Author:  md [ Fri May 08, 2009 7:20 pm ]
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What is the make and model?

Author:  Clayton [ Fri May 08, 2009 7:21 pm ]
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Surely you can find the model number on one of the stickers on the back somewhere, google that number, and you should have your answer.

Author:  Tony [ Fri May 08, 2009 7:54 pm ]
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A good clue is to take a look at its input ports. After all, you would need to hook it up to an HD source, if you want to play HD content.

Author:  isaiahk9 [ Fri May 08, 2009 8:25 pm ]
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The model number was gtw-l17m103. I google-ed it, and got results, but did not find any information verifying or casting doubt on whether the TV is HD.

Question : This may seem really stupid, but on the back of the TV are a couple white icons stamped with information on the TV. One says its power supply. Two others say Analog-In and Digital-In, and one says that a computer can connect to it. Does this mean anything?

Author:  wtd [ Fri May 08, 2009 8:46 pm ]
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If it has a VGA input then there's a good chance it's at least 720p (1366x768).

How big is it in inches (diagonal) and is it widescreen, or 4:3?

Author:  rdrake [ Fri May 08, 2009 9:11 pm ]
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I'm guessing 17", 16:9.

Author:  isaiahk9 [ Sat May 09, 2009 6:55 am ]
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The screen is roughly 16.5", with dimensions of roughly 8.5" by 14.5". It definitely looks widescreen.

There are two ports on the back : RGB and DVI. RGB looks like this :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/SVGA_port.jpg/300px-SVGA_port.jpg

and DVI looks like this :
http://www.atmarkit.co.jp/fsys/cableconnect/05disp_video/03dvi_d-box-l.jpg

Author:  Ultrahex [ Sat May 09, 2009 9:26 am ]
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Well according to that model number it is a Gateway LCD17TV so this would mean,

720p (HDTV) ? 480p (EDTV) ? 480i (SDTV) are allowed. http://www.shopping.com/xPF-Gateway-17-in-LCD-TV

Given that is what the TV looks like obviously.

Author:  andrew. [ Sat May 09, 2009 9:45 am ]
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Does it have Component, HDMI, or DVI inputs? If it has any of the three, it most likely is 720p or higher.

Author:  isaiahk9 [ Sat May 09, 2009 10:16 am ]
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@Ultrahex : that is what the TV looks like, but why the question marks?

@andrew. : it has a single DVI port.

Author:  md [ Sat May 09, 2009 12:27 pm ]
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720p is higher resolution then standard TVs (480p) but not quite HDTV (1080p).

Author:  andrew. [ Sat May 09, 2009 3:40 pm ]
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isaiahk9 @ Sat May 09, 2009 10:16 am wrote:
@Ultrahex : that is what the TV looks like, but why the question marks?

@andrew. : it has a single DVI port.

1. The questions marks showed up instead of bullets when he copied and pasted.
2. Then it is probably 720p which, as md said, is not fully HDTV, but it's a higher resolution than SDTV (I think it's 1280x720).

Author:  isaiahk9 [ Sat May 09, 2009 5:19 pm ]
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OK, ty everybody (andrew. especially).

Author:  gianni [ Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:54 pm ]
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Referring to an individual by their nationality (i.e. the Greek) is considered racial/ethnic discrimination. I'm sure you meant no harm by it, but you might want to watch out for that one in the future.

Author:  isaiahk9 [ Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:29 am ]
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Although I would never want to sound racist, I'm going to have to save that, no, it's not racial or ethnic discrimination.

Racial or ethnic discrimination is using a person's race or ethnic group as a factor when making a decision that could negatively affect that race or ethnic group.

Me using the word "Greek" is just a description: it's like somebody saying I'm tall, have brown eyes or brown hair. There's no harm.

In a perfect world people wouldn't pull the alarm and yell things like "racism!" every time two races get together and aren't completely sober-minded. It would be best to treat everybody equally, and I'm not treating anybody unequally: I call people by what they are, whether there Caucasian, Asian, or, yes, Greek.

This would be more of a racial or ethnic discrimination issue if I called a guy . . . say . . . a "colored person" when he's African American. Using the proper name isn't bad. Or if I called said person an insulting name. As long as the word is just describing them, it means no harm.

Oh! And if anybody is planning on replying and debating this, and has the argument that "in a perfect world, people shouldn't even notice race", allow me to address that now. Each culture has its own unique and individual needs: you can not treat a Sikh like a Muslim. If that's the way a "perfect world" works, we would just be destroying everybody's cultures and making one mono-culture. And the argument is flawed: why shouldn't we notice race? If it doesn't matter in our descriptions, it's just like me noticing your height or hair color.

@gianna : You tried to stop something you saw as racist. Good on you.

Author:  [Gandalf] [ Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:34 am ]
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gianni @ 2009-06-13, 11:54 pm wrote:
Referring to an individual by their nationality (i.e. the Greek) is considered racial/ethnic discrimination.

I consider this stance as one which supports censorship of the worst kind; that which is done under the guise of legitimacy.

Author:  Euphoracle [ Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:20 am ]
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gianni @ Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:54 pm wrote:
Referring to an individual by their nationality (i.e. the Greek) is considered racial/ethnic discrimination. I'm sure you meant no harm by it, but you might want to watch out for that one in the future.


I disagree. That's like calling it racism to call someone who is in fact black, a black person. It's not racism unless you're discriminating against them or using the word in a condescending manner (such as "that stupid yellow person" or something), or something more serious. Society as a whole needs to lose this overused idea that it is racism to point out the obvious. Any black person who is offended when you call them black, or a Greek person when you call them Greek, has identity issues.

Author:  gianni [ Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:22 am ]
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The fact that this person was singled out and referred to solely by their ethnicity is discrimination. Regardless if it is harmful or intentional. He is, essentially, being set aside from everyone else in the story solely for being Greek.

Anyway, I'm not calling anyone racist here, as I said, I'm sure it was inadvertent.

(Also, I'm a guy, my name is gianni not gianna.)

Author:  gianni [ Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:34 am ]
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Euphoracle @ Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:20 am wrote:
I disagree. That's like calling it racism to call someone who is in fact black, a black person. It's not racism unless you're discriminating against them or using the word in a condescending manner (such as "that stupid yellow person" or something), or something more serious. Society as a whole needs to lose this overused idea that it is racism to point out the obvious. Any black person who is offended when you call them black, or a Greek person when you call them Greek, has identity issues.


Euphoracle, normally I would agree with you, if race was somehow part of the discussion at hand. I believe there is a difference between being racial and racist. However, I don't think that applies in this case, because he could have left out the ethnicity of his brother's roommate and the story would have been the exact same. It is seemingly irrelevant.

Author:  apomb [ Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:00 pm ]
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Agreed, because it makes the reader take the "rich greek" 's ethnicity into consideration, putting a negative connotation on being rich and greek, possibly.

Author:  DtY [ Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:41 pm ]
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I'd say it's not way out there calling that racist. (Also it just annoys me when people are given names by their race)

"...When the Greek left for Summer holidays..."

Author:  rdrake [ Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:15 pm ]
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Blah blah blah blah blah...

I can split this debate into a separate topic if anybody wants, but the question posted in the OP of this thread has been answered.

Oh, forgot to mention that I locked this.


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