One of the reasons I like PC's are its features

Administrative tools that can be difficult if not awkward to change in a Mac the first few times.

I'm a gamer, 'nuff said.

I use a PC. If you use a mac you use a PC. Especially now that Apple has gone to intel - there is no substantial difference between a Lenovo laptop and an Apple laptop.

A PC (despite those horrid adds) is a Personal Computer. As in, your own computer.

I vote PC but where's the Linux?

...64gb of RAM...[/b]

Then create a Dual Boot Partition on the HDD and Install OSX.

Why buy a Mac?

Because a Hackintosh is not production stable for the projects of the magnitude that require that much hardware power.

Imagen the outrage if microsoft made it so windows only ran on microsoft hardware, only made MS office for windows and then made the claim that there hardware was the best for business becues office only runs on there hardware.

Linux won't grow it's user base until it is marketed pre-installed on popular PC brands, which won't happen because they make more money selling windows.

@Dan: It will be running linux, with a windows virtual computer along with a virtual Mac.

Also @ Dan: The MB supports 64 gb of RAM. I will only be using 30gb or so.

Also Also @ Dan: It will be in a full ATX tower, with liquid cooled power supply and a ****wack of fans.

You would be better off aucatly buying 2 or 3 normal computers to run as game servers and run windows xp directly on them (assuming the game server software is windows only). This would also mean better uptime in case of a failure on one computer.

Exactly. People would buy the computers, because they're $150 cheaper or whatever windows costs, they get exposed to Linux, they like it, Linux gets popular, Windows dies. (I'm talking about brands like MDG, Dell, etc. Popular, yet still crap).

Already do have 2 running windows XP. This one is for compiling large files and video editing. Thats why I'm putting 30gb in it.

Not going to vote. Prefer both. Depends on what is in front of me, and either beats neither.

Cheers

I think the main reason for picking PC is like this :
1. Because majority of computer users uses PC, and Mac/PC compatability is akward in the least, if one wants to be able to interact with majority of the world, they'll get a windows.

2. Programs are made for PC before Mac.

3. Mac commercials are terrible. rant - Honestly, the raw appeal to youth and commercialism . . . makes me not want to get a Mac.

1. Things such as file types. It's not too bad, but there is a reason why windows is the number one operating system in the world.

1. Things such as file types. It's not too bad, but there is a reason why windows is the number one operating system in the world.

Name a type of file I wouldn't be able to open on a Mac that I can under Windows.

The fact that macs show no technological aspects at all means that they probably are appealing to the "simpleton" - as such computers are dumbed down so that point

As well, the MacbookAir is an ultralight/ultraportable, it makes perfect sense to advertise and put emphasis on it's slender profile.

I could of put the "both" option, but I wanted to see what you people really like... I agree that sometimes its hard to judge whether one type is better than the other. In reality, there will always be one that is potentially "preferable" than another one.

@gianni : Okay, if you really wanted to bring this to a real argument :
First of all, I never actually made claims of differentiating technology. I made claims based off the ideas of awkward (not incompatible, but awkward) file types (which is compatibility).
For an example : the top ten computer games of 2008, only two of them could be accessed by macs (originally). What more are you asking as proof for compatible? Sure, its not incompatible. But the file transfer it takes is an extra step. Some programs can't even be transferred (which is why on gaming sites, there are separate sections for PC and Mac, as they are nearly (but not completely) exclusive).
What else are you looking for as something as proof for the compatibility claims?

True, you can run windows on a Mac. But, had you read my post above, you would've said that I had agreed with Dan, and had just gotten side-tracked. As well, this would not negate my points :
Lets say we have person A and B. I say person A is healthy, and Person B has a fatal heart condition. Right?
What you're saying (where patient A represents windows, patient B represents mac) is that Person B is perfectly healthy because we can rip out the heart from Person A and perform a transplant.
Just because a thing can be fixed does not mean it isn't broken.
And, had you read above, I'd already covered this.

I know there are Mac download sites. But had you looked carefully, you would've noticed that because there are fewer Mac users than PC (notice the poll in this thread), there are fewer downloads. As such, many programs available for PC originally are not available for Mac.
And, if they all were, this would relate to my patient/doctor metaphor above.

You claim of me having unsupported claims - yet you airily say "The mac community is known for its indie dev houses that create some of the best and most popular software titles available". Care to name some?

On a side-note, the Macbook air is ultra-light/ultra portable, but I personally believe it has been brought to a point of foolishness. So what if the Macbook air can fit in an envelope, if I can't access USB ports (which is almost all computer add-ons nowadays), or CDs?

Market

In 2001 125 million personal computers were shipped in comparison to 48 thousand in 1977. More than 500 million PCs were in use in 2002 and one billion personal computers had been sold worldwide since mid-1970s till this time. Of the latter figure, 75 percent were professional or work related, while the rest sold for personal or home use. About 81.5 percent of PCs shipped had been desktop computers, 16.4 percent laptops and 2.1 percent servers. United States had received 38.8 percent (394 million) of the computers shipped, Europe 25 percent and 11.7 percent had gone to Asia-Pacific region, the fastest-growing market as of 2002. The second billion was expected to be sold by 2008.[2] Almost half of all the households in Western Europe had a personal computer and a computer could be found in 40 percent of homes in United Kingdom, compared with only 13 percent in 1985.[3]

As of June 2008, the number of personal computers in use worldwide hit one billion, while another billion is expected to be reached by 2014. Mature markets like the United States, Western Europe and Japan accounted for 58 percent of the worldwide installed PCs. The emerging markets were expected to double their installed PCs by 2013 and to take 70 percent of the second billion PCs. About 180 million PCs (16 percent of the existing installed base) were expected to be replaced and 35 million to be dumped into landfill in 2008. The whole installed base grew 12 percent annually.

This is probably another reason why people voted for Pc's instead of Mac's, based on their marketing, reliability and stability

And no, I won't buy an xbox (or playstation or Wii). I paid a lot of money for this 24-inch 1920x1200 screen, and I will NOT have it sullied by software rendering at 640i - only 1080p is acceptable.

... built-in accelerometers, or perhaps the built-in webcam, or would it be the dual-GPUs, or possibly you meant the illuminated keyboard, actually it must be the optical audio in/out?

1. I see no use for an accelerometer in any of my machines, with the possible exception of the laptop. Even then, I think it's probably easier to right-click -> rotate display than have some specialised piece of hardware do it for me (really, what else am I going to do with an accelerometer?).
2. Built-in webcam is pretty standard. I only wanted one on my laptop, so I saved the $25 or whatever per machine for that. Why would I have one on my server, or my gaming computer?
3. Illuminated keyboards sound alright, though I've never found myself wanting one. If I'm having a hard time typing by touch, it's my own fault. What might actually be useful is illuminated ports on the back of computers (how often have you plugged the green audio cable into the blue port by accident?)
4. I have no idea what the modern standards for display/audio connectors are. I know I'm using DVI for my screen and standard computer audio plugs, but not what you mean by optical connectors. Either way, I'm fairly certain that one of the plugs on the back of the computer corresponds to what you mean.
5. By "hardware DRM", I was referring to some vague claims I've heard; please fill me in on the various DRM transgressions of each platform. Certainly, I know it's difficult to install their OS on non-Apple hardware, which I don't like (maybe if I could try it out on one of my computers, I'd be more inclined to buy their hardware already).

1. I see no use for an accelerometer in any of my machines, with the possible exception of the laptop. Even then, I think it's probably easier to right-click -> rotate display than have some specialised piece of hardware do it for me (really, what else am I going to do with an accelerometer?).

3. Illuminated keyboards sound alright, though I've never found myself wanting one. If I'm having a hard time typing by touch, it's my own fault. What might actually be useful is illuminated ports on the back of computers (how often have you plugged the green audio cable into the blue port by accident?)

4. I have no idea what the modern standards for display/audio connectors are. I know I'm using DVI for my screen and standard computer audio plugs, but not what you mean by optical connectors. Either way, I'm fairly certain that one of the plugs on the back of the computer corresponds to what you mean.

You drop your laptop. The hard drive is still spinning. The head is right over the platter, less than a human hair width above the platter. The system hits the ground and the head crashes. Your hard drive is toast.

Apple's laptops have accelerometers that tell the hard drive to safely "park" the head when a fall is detected.

It's notable that the backlight is not the tacky type that lights up everything, with translucent keys. Instead the characters on the keys glow.

Additionally, the sensor that controls this automatically dims the screen in dark rooms. This makes for better battery life, but the primary benefit is that the screen is at an ideal comfort level all the time without any human intervention.

...royalty-free and openly specced, support VGA adapters...

You can run Windows on a Mac you know. So Macs get all the PC games too.

Why run Windows on something so expensive, when you can run it on something so much cheaper?