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why ask why

Author:  ecookman [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:49 am ]
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why do you think this world is so convoluted



explaine why

Author:  Dan [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:08 am ]
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The world is not convoluted just the peoleop on it.

Author:  md [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:22 am ]
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ecookman @ 2008-11-04, 8:49 am wrote:
why do you think this world is so convoluted



explaine why


This poll is worthless. As is your sig. You have no idea who my host is... though you might know my ISP.

Author:  Zeroth [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:27 am ]
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Now, now, no need to be mean MD. However, it is a silly question. Theres no explanation of what he means by convoluted. What may be convoluted to ecookman may make sense to others that see more of the big picture. In addition, it is presuming there is a cause or a reason behind reality. That is a question that belongs to philosophy and religion, not science.

Author:  ecookman [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:03 am ]
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see this was my whole plan



this has become a convoluted discussion with no end or meaning this happens all the time in the real world


and MD

that is for your vewing pleasure it just displays that stuff i have no access to it

when you enter a site you need to send out your ip that just displays it

Author:  Dan [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:43 am ]
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ecookman @ 6th November 2008, 11:03 am wrote:

when you enter a site you need to send out your ip that just displays it


The problem with that is the ip it gets might be no where near where i live and might not even be from my ISP or my host (in case of proxeis, tunnels, and other common methods of routing around packets) also it depends on a look up of the ip address witch might not have truthfull or up to date information (or any at all) for examples see the attached screen shots i took of your sig :p

Author:  ecookman [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:52 am ]
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omg did you get all of those andwers of where you live...HEAY did you use an annomiser

Author:  S_Grimm [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:54 pm ]
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no, i'm willing to bet that he used a proxy, or tunnel. Am i right Dan?

Author:  Dan [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:01 pm ]
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I used tor so all of the above + encryption.

Personally i am not a big fan of such sigs as it is advertising for danasoft and for all we know danasoft could be collecting data on users browsing habits. Also it's only cool if you make it your self.

Author:  Zeroth [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:44 pm ]
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Of course the easiest solution is just use adblock plus to block the image permanently /everywhere/ mwahahahahaha

Author:  [Gandalf] [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:04 pm ]
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I live near Ottawa, eh? Nice! I guess if I were using a proxy I'd live near Siberia...

Author:  S_Grimm [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:46 pm ]
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I could live in Florida all year if I wanted......

Author:  rdrake [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:39 pm ]
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I remember those types of dynamic images that regurgitated information about where you live and such were banned a while back.

Author:  [Gandalf] [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:46 pm ]
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Indeed, it was from the same site too. It seems they've gotten even less accurate over time, great!

Author:  Clayton [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:51 pm ]
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At home, my IP resolves to somewhere north of Waterloo... around a 3 hour drive from my house... yeah, real close.

Author:  S_Grimm [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:52 am ]
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Probably because that is where the switching station for your ISP is. I know mine says London, about an hour from me.

Author:  ecookman [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:08 am ]
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lol ya that could be it

Author:  S_Grimm [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:49 am ]
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Now, i am in strathroy, at school, and it says I am near St. Thomas. Now i sorta never did pay attention in geograhpy, but i know that London is a hell of a lot closer than St. Thomas. So I just proved that the signs are wrong. By the way, It says that i live near St. Thomas. I live in Glencoe, so..........

Author:  ecookman [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:12 am ]
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it trys to get the next biggest city

and it kinda guesses betewwn your ip and the isp

Author:  ecookman [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:13 am ]
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for example i live in a small town and there is a big one only 25 mins away, Newmarket

but it says i live closest to Toronto so ya it is a litte off but p[eople who don't know much about this get freeked out


they are like ZOMGWTFBBQ

how?

Author:  Dan [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:07 am ]
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ecookman @ 7th November 2008, 9:12 am wrote:
it trys to get the next biggest city

and it kinda guesses betewwn your ip and the isp


No, it is much simpler then that. My bet is there app just uses a Geolocation database like http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm or http://www.ip2location.com/.

For more info on ip geolocation and how/if it works see: http://compnetworking.about.com/od/traceipaddresses/f/ip_location.htm

Author:  S_Grimm [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:53 am ]
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I really think this thread has lost it's point. I say that stopping posting in it would be a good idea.

Author:  Clayton [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:09 pm ]
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Kind of ironic don't you think? Wink

Author:  Zeroth [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:48 pm ]
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It was pointless from the very /start/.

Author:  [Gandalf] [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:06 pm ]
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Uh, see, the thing is, I live west of Toronto, 500km away from Ottawa. Both the links Dan suggested at least point me to Toronto...

Author:  Dan [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:35 pm ]
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Gandalf @ 7th November 2008, 4:06 pm wrote:
Uh, see, the thing is, I live west of Toronto, 500km away from Ottawa. Both the links Dan suggested at least point me to Toronto...


IPs and IP ranges are constaly being reassigned by ISPs and to diffrent ISPs so geolocating databases are bound to be out of date as there is no officel database of where a IP is phsyical located. (tho there is one of who owns an ip but they might not be close to who is using it).

As such each database can be diffrent and each will have many errors in them witch is why ip geolocating should not be used for anything imporentent at all. (Tho the RIAA seems to think diffrently).

Author:  andrew. [ Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:22 am ]
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It always says I live in Brampton. I live in Scarborough. That's almost an hour drive away.

Author:  StealthArcher [ Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:14 pm ]
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My internet used to relay to Sudbury on those things, 8+ hours ftw. >.>


Edmonton is a little too big to avoid though, soi it tends to be correct now.


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