Seems not bad, but right now, my new language desire is D.
Computer Science Canada Up and coming programming language? Falcon |
| Author: | btiffin [ Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Up and coming programming language? Falcon |
Has anyone here checked out the Falcon Programming language? Giancarlo seems to be doing some excellent work. More gentle coaxing by the old guy: If you want to get in on a programming language while it is still in the active design and development stages, not quite ground floor but still close, this might be a good opportunity. http://www.falconpl.org/ Cheers |
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| Author: | Insectoid [ Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Up and coming programming language? Falcon |
Sounds interesting, procedural, object oriented, functional, and message-oriented? Cool. |
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| Author: | michaelp [ Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Up and coming programming language? Falcon |
Seems not bad, but right now, my new language desire is D. |
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| Author: | btiffin [ Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RE:Up and coming programming language? Falcon |
michaelp @ Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:32 pm wrote: Seems not bad, but right now, my new language desire is D.
Excellent choice. Don't be afraid to post to the D newsgroups. Walter is very open to suggestions, complaints, comments (and well deserved praise). And just so ya know, Walter (thru Zortech) published one of the (if not thee) first fully native C++ compilers. He knows his stuff. Cheers |
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| Author: | michaelp [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Up and coming programming language? Falcon |
Yeah, I've read about his C++ compilers. He made some of the first available ones. (As you said  ) He was like a god!
And I got the D environment set up, was much easier than I thought. I thought command line stuff would be hell, but it's easy. Just took a bit (couple of minutes of searching through the .txt docs I had) to figure out what the PATH thing was. And it compiles much faster than C++. Anyways, Falcon's homepage is snazzy! >P (My face  ) |
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| Author: | btiffin [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Up and coming programming language? Falcon |
This may end up a split thread. I don't care. 
D is a far better C++ than C++ imho. Ddoc, unit tests, RAII that plays nice with the GC, contracts, macros that aren't hidden by a preproc layer, a much cleaner object model, etc etc and on and on. Just better. And it's at a stage of development where the good citizens of compsci.ca can play a part and influence its future. How cool is that. And Falcon looks like it could compete with LUA for the embedded market. Hmm, D with Falcon. Now that could well be a killer development env. But then perhaps D doesn't really need an embedded scripting language as Walter may have that covered with Dscript and the innate ability of D code to act like shell scripts. Anyway, to all readers; imho these are both animals to watch grow. And get your name up in the lights and take part in the development. You are all smart enough. Between Falcon and D, I'd guess that Giancarlo would appreciate any help more than the Digitalmars community, but both are open to input. Plus I'd opine, both are worthy of the time spent to build expertise. D being a more solid bet today. And then you can run rings around the C++ teams. 
Cheers |
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| Author: | michaelp [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Up and coming programming language? Falcon |
We can influence its future? Snapples! Quick, make a D category. Now!!!!!! And I like how D is updated often. |
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| Author: | Tony [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RE:Up and coming programming language? Falcon |
michaelp @ Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:41 pm wrote: Quick, make a D category. Now!!!!!!
You know what to do... start writing about D in the General Programming section  |
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| Author: | btiffin [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RE:Up and coming programming language? Falcon |
michaelp @ Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:41 pm wrote: We can influence its future? Snapples!
I'm a little bit surprised. I just checked the D forum, the head to head battle on how best to implement const has been raging on for a few months now. Longest debate on an issue I've seen them go through so far. Might be a sign that the potential for influence is decreasing as the fundamentals of the 2.0 release of the language are becoming cemented. Act fast! Or you might be limited to run time library influence.
Cheers |
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| Author: | michaelp [ Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RE:Up and coming programming language? Falcon |
btiffin @ Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:52 pm wrote: michaelp @ Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:41 pm wrote: We can influence its future? Snapples!
I'm a little bit surprised. I just checked the D forum, the head to head battle on how best to implement const has been raging on for a few months now. Longest debate on an issue I've seen them go through so far. Might be a sign that the potential for influence is decreasing as the fundamentals of the 2.0 release of the language are becoming cemented. Act fast! Or you might be limited to run time library influence.
Cheers NO! Not run time library influence! 
Tony wrote: michaelp @ Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:41 pm wrote: Quick, make a D category. Now!!!!!!
You know what to do... start writing about D in the General Programming section
Fine... 
BTW, some guy managed to get D working (not fully yet though) on the PSP! Check it out here. |
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| Author: | wtd [ Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Up and coming programming language? Falcon |
Blast from the past (3 years ago). Or, "wtd's way ahead of the curve... again." |
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| Author: | michaelp [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:Up and coming programming language? Falcon |
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That's the tutorial I've been using to learn D. |
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