maybe have some way of spending the bits, because right now they seem kind of useless to me...
Computer Science Canada v4: What would you like to see? |
| Author: | rdrake [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | v4: What would you like to see? |
Planning has begun on v4 of the site. We need your input to determine which features the community will use. Is there anything in particular you enjoy using on this site? Are there any features in v3 that you like but don't use simply because you don't like how they work? Are there any features you find useless or that you just don't bother using? Is there a feature missing that you'd like to have? Any input is appreciated. |
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| Author: | lordroba [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: v4: What would you like to see? |
maybe have some way of spending the bits, because right now they seem kind of useless to me... |
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| Author: | michaelp [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
Yeah, there is no real reason to actually use the bits right now, you just... get them. |
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| Author: | Dan [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
I would like to see some logic for auto code taging. If the system detects a post with code in it, it should try to guses the langue and code tag it. Also i want to see it be as modualr as posible so new plugins, featuers, etc can be added by editing as few existing files as posible. |
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| Author: | StealthArcher [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
Can I say : "Front Page" or would that be too redundant? |
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| Author: | cavetroll [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
Just a small thing but it annoys me every time it happens. When it shows you the posts on the left, it shouldn't show posts you can't visit. i.e. when there is a post in the members lounge. It shows up, but when I click it, I can't see it. Just a minor annoyance I would like to see fixed. |
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| Author: | Dan [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
Just a note, the v4 will be 100% form sractch (or at least all new software) so rdicale and big changes are posible and featuers can be removed that v3 has. So some input for things like what do you want bits to do, what you want to see in a front page or what is the best way in your option to display new posts whould be realy helpfull. Edit: Also if any one is intrested you can join the "fTeam" witch will be planing and devloping the software and not just for this site. My hope is to realses the software as open source software (tho this is still pending discusion about it) and have it generliazed so any site can use it. Just PM me about it. Right now it looks like it might be python based with a web framework but that also is still up for disscusion. |
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| Author: | Clayton [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
Thank God. Down with PHPBB! EDIT: Get rid of all the shit down the left hand side. It's too distracting. Also, there needs to be some major thought into the re-organization of the forums and sub-forums. |
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| Author: | Tony [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
an autoban feature! You know... "if the user's postcount is under whatever and the caps per lower-case letters ratio is too high" type of heuristic. |
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| Author: | StealthArcher [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
I cant tell if the above is sarcasm or not, but who cares. It should be put in anyway! I would like to help with all that dan said, but I'm afraid my python is sorely lacking, I cant even fly yet. >_> |
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| Author: | [Gandalf] [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
It would be nice if when you checked a users posts they were ordered by date instead of forum posted in. Though with it being completely new software and all I doubt that'll be an issue. Is this thread going to try to beat the V3 suggestions thread?  |
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| Author: | btiffin [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
I'd disagree with dropping the avatar info panel, maybe a text-only condensed option and/or a no-motion option along with Always show. Keep sigs, they too add flavour and a chance to get to know the personalities. Tony's autoban; Forum Executable Management BOTs Cheers |
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| Author: | Aziz [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
I think Dan meant "dTeam". Python web programming, I'm in. Edit: Nope, he meant "fTeam". Forum team rather than dev team. My bad I like all that 'crap' down the side of the page on the front, I use it all the time. What I would like to see is a better search page. I always click google search because it's at the bottom rather than the normal search button =/ And some a new bits shop would be nice. Mostly just effects probably. I also used to visit a site that was about anime, comics and graphics and they had a built in rpg-esque game. I guess sort of like GaiaOnline, but not so furry or weeabo. Perhaps a fun geeky little forum-game. You could then spend bits for something. Since it's being built from the ground up, there's a lot of potential here. I agree to keep it modular and make an underlying framework, and release it. There's a lack of good forum software out there. Compsci's forums are so great because as Dan's mentioned, they're heavily customized from the stock phpbb. And python just rocks. |
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| Author: | rizzix [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
Ajax'd from the ground up. 
Forget those text-based users. |
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| Author: | Steven Toews [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
Ajax it for sure, that would be compiling a new software with the newest coding technology, and might I add, the smoothest. |
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| Author: | Aziz [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
The site isn't very text-browser friendly as it is. Believe me, I tried =/ |
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| Author: | Zeroth [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: v4: What would you like to see? |
Hmm, I have to vote a nay for the Ajax suggestions. As cool as it is, I'm a believer in the old school, where you need to ask, "How does Ajax help the user experience?" I for one, can only see a few subtle places ajax would be useful, such as posting, seeing updates to a thread while your posting to said thread(can be very annoying on busier blogs/forums, where you post something as a response to what someone else said... only to see your response be about two pages down, lol.) Python would work pretty well for enabling a quick, and easily maintainable forum. As well, theres just so much more safety, in using urllib.quote to escape dangerous characters in user input... I'd much rather rely on a well-built library like Python's than on any function I myself would code... |
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| Author: | Tony [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
As it was said, there is little user experience benefit from AJEX~ifying a forum. Besides, we would have to code all the "disabled javascript" fall-through behaviour anyway, so now we'd have to support two parallel versions of the UI and relevant backend. |
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| Author: | Aziz [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
Ew |
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| Author: | rizzix [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
Tony @ Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:35 pm wrote: As it was said, there is little user experience benefit from AJEX~ifying a forum. I dunno, I haven't thought enough about a new innovative forum design. However I believe Ajax would be the path to explore, since not many have done it.
Tony @ Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:35 pm wrote: Besides, we would have to code all the "disabled javascript" fall-through behaviour anyway, so now we'd have to support two parallel versions of the UI and relevant backend. There might be ways of generalizing this behavior to automatically generate the javascript-disabled fallthrough. |
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| Author: | Zeroth [ Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: v4: What would you like to see? |
On a current project of mine, we have a nice pretty javascript interface. The beauty however, is that we've built into the system basic fall through behaviour. The way we did it is to have the default html look be taken care of by css, including links to go back, or forward or whatever(its an illustrated comic hosting project). Images are in a simple unordered list. If Javascript is working, it modifies the html to move them, adding new css properties and such. The links are still there. They are just... hidden. It works pretty well. That said, the reason it has not been done is because what we have works very very well. Unlike other software, forum software has the longest pedigree of design behind it. Remember BBSes? They first came about in 1972. Thats 36 years of design, of trying what works, and what doesn't. As a piece of social software, most forums have every feature needed. Good social software allows for the Small World pattern to occur, with small tightly connected groups, and looser connections to other small groups. We have PMs, we have the forums. In general, its mostly loose connections, with only a few tightly connected small groups, like the admins, moderators, etc. The purpose of a forum is to support and encourage group formation and action. Whether that action is talking about a new version of software, providing support(ala AA), or whatever a group of people can do, forums do it very very well. The most important feature of social software, is that it lowers the costs of group formation to such a point that new(compared to the past 10000 years of civilization) types of groups and actions can form. If you have ideas that encourage social features, that have never been done in a forum before, never been tried, and can only be done by AJAX, then go ahead and suggest it. But my personal view is that forums, as they exist, are quite refined, and most of the major changes of recent time are wrought only by the most brilliant of designers or are technical attempts to stop a social problem, like spam. One feature that is excellent for a forum, which was never done before, until google bought usenet and turned it into google groups, is the duplicate post feature. That is simply brilliant, cutting down the noise of a forum to a greatly more manageable form. I don't mean to browbeat or berate anyone, but, I just want people to think about what any proposed features or additions to a forum should do. How will it improve the substance and purpose of the forum? Think about that, and if you have an idea, lets hear it. Just think first, and don't go for the shiny cool stuff.
So, uh, how about a duplicate post feature?[/i] |
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| Author: | Epic Tissue [ Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
How about a nice statistics section? I like looking at statistics 
Also.. a thread suggestions (either .. like when you submit an article at digg.com or at the bottom of many forums (such as boards.ie)) |
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| Author: | Tony [ Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
Epic Tissue @ Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:58 am wrote: a thread suggestions
I'm liking this idea. All too often new users keep on asking same basic questions, when it has already been discussed multiple times, including dedicated tutorials. |
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| Author: | Reality Check [ Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: v4: What would you like to see? |
Would an embedded flash player in the posts be too much? I'd love to be able to directly view youtube videos from this site. |
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| Author: | Dan [ Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: v4: What would you like to see? |
Reality Check @ 14th June 2008, 8:24 am wrote: Would an embedded flash player in the posts be too much? I'd love to be able to directly view youtube videos from this site.
We could call it the video tag 
Maybe like theses guys have: http://compsci.ca/v3/viewtopic.php?t=16253 |
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| Author: | Reality Check [ Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: v4: What would you like to see? |
Wow...I didn't know that lol. I guess I'm still pretty new to the site. Well not exactly new but I'm posting more now |
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| Author: | apomb [ Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
Epic Tissue @ Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:58 am wrote: How about a nice statistics section? I like looking at statistics
you mean something like these statistics? |
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| Author: | nastynika [ Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: v4: What would you like to see? |
maybe a specific section foe people to post there birthdays or other personal events |
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| Author: | Aziz [ Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | RE:v4: What would you like to see? |
I think there's an event calendar, too. And there's a Tutorials section. They're just not used/promoted very well. I'm sure if people seem interested, v4 could include and better implement and integrate these features. |
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