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Warhammer; completely off topic.
Author:  btiffin [ Thu May 22, 2008 7:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Warhammer; completely off topic.
I've been noticing a few of the avatars. How many people here are Warhammer players?

I've sunk way too many hours into the hobby. Dark Elves, Empire, Orcs and Goblins; Dark Eldar. Mordheim or Skirmish are probably my faves now. I own just about every book GW has ever produced. Oh and WFRP, old and new, and now the new 40K RP has me jonesin' to go buy a book.

And just so everyone knows, WFRP beats the pants off D&D ... simple hit points ... come on; someone hits you with a sword, you lose an arm. Smile

Cheers
Author:  Mackie [ Thu May 22, 2008 7:37 pm ]
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I tried to get into it when I was younger. Didn't work.
Author:  rizzix [ Thu May 22, 2008 9:17 pm ]
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The gameplay is just too long. I gave up.
Author:  Sean [ Thu May 22, 2008 9:47 pm ]
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I too tried to get into it. Never clicked.
Author:  r691175002 [ Fri May 23, 2008 12:13 am ]
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I was into it for a while, but the game mechanics leave something to be desired and it is incredibly expensive. We normally end up playing with tables printed off microsoft word.

I have been meaning to resin cast some copies of their sprues as well (For personal use of course), but haven't gotten around to it.
Author:  btiffin [ Fri May 23, 2008 1:37 am ]
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Yeah; being a high paid computer programmer is one of the few fields that can afford a full army of Warhammer. That and a forgiving wife that gives you Saturday afternoons to play. Smile

I still try and snag time, but I sorely miss the Club. I suck at painting, and one day during a busy Saturday afternoon some jerk ripped off an army case. Little did they know I only had a few figs inside as they were all out on the tables (I share with whoever needs) - but the rest of the room felt so bad for me that I ended up with nearly 4 full fantastically painted armies of gifts over the next few weeks. I ended up with over 30 Cold One knights, hordes of Spear, hordes of Xbow, hordes... It was awesome. Not needing 12,000 points all to myself, I just gave armies to those that cared to play but couldn't really afford to. I think the current club still has a 3,000 point Orc army of mine and a ton of duplicate books I had accumulated. Love the game.

Oh, and after, lets say a life time of 2 or 300 games, I've won maybe 3. Smile I play to play and, well, suck (famously). I was showing a 40K player how Fantasy worked; 3000 point game, my Dark Elves against the Club's Chaos. I got skunked. He didn't lose a fig, and I was wiped off the face of the board. Mind you it was mostly due to a cascade of failed panic, and super crappy flee rolls, but it was actually fun to watch. For a while I had a Blue's Lose weekly post on the Warhammer Players Society forum. I'm proud to own a Possessed Mordheim warband that remains victoryless after some 30 or 40 matches.

Cheers
Author:  nastynika [ Fri May 23, 2008 8:24 am ]
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i play it alot i have a huge space marines army with a lancer tank and everything mine r done up as blood angels
Author:  Insectoid [ Fri May 23, 2008 9:06 am ]
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MY absolute favourite game! Used to play lotr, got about 6000 points of that, went to 3 tourneys last year, score 9 overall in canada!(very good, considering the first tourney I only one 1 game and only 2 games of four in the second tourney, and there were about 10 tourneys throughout the year). Now I'm into 40k
(brand new rulebook out, good thing I didn't buy the last one) Just so you know, black industries closed, so no more WFRP. I really like the new vampire counts, might start up fantasy some day.

Anyone get the new 'Harry the Hammer'? I got it, and it's so friggin awesome! One of the most fun models to paint!
Author:  btiffin [ Fri May 23, 2008 9:19 am ]
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insectoid; Well done!

?? No more WFRP ... I heard rumours but I haven't been down to Fandom in a few months; sad days indeed.
Author:  Insectoid [ Fri May 23, 2008 9:24 am ]
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They were going to produce an expansion to...what was it, Dark Herey? They had advertisements and everything, plenty of pre-orders, and then they go and cancel the project and close down. The 5th edition 40k is funny though, there are some codices still unupdated from 3rd edition. I believe this is the first time in the history of GW that a rulebook has been released before the previous edition codices!(poor imperial guard, so many rules flaws with their 15-year-old codex...) well, not that old...
Author:  nastynika [ Tue May 27, 2008 7:54 am ]
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wel thats no good
Author:  Insectoid [ Tue May 27, 2008 9:25 am ]
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No, I suppose it isn't.
Author:  apomb [ Tue May 27, 2008 9:35 am ]
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My good friend plays warhammer40k

loves it.

i couldnt imagine playing something of that magnitude for very long
Author:  Insectoid [ Tue May 27, 2008 9:44 am ]
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What's so magnitudy about it? I collect because I am nearly as atracted to miniatures as I am to girls! The fact that it's a game is a bonus.
Author:  nastynika [ Wed May 28, 2008 7:58 am ]
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insectoid @ Tue May 27, 2008 9:44 am wrote:
What's so magnitudy about it? I collect because I am nearly as atracted to miniatures as I am to girls! The fact that it's a game is a bonus.


interesting

is anyone particapating n any upcoming tournaments?
Author:  Insectoid [ Wed May 28, 2008 8:19 am ]
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I'm going to an LOTR tourney at Oakville in June. My 40k army FAR to small to game with yet.

Did I mentoin I scored 9th overall in canada last year?

..yeah, I did, didn't I...
Author:  nastynika [ Wed May 28, 2008 8:25 am ]
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yea u did lol but wutever the only thing i dont like about warhammer is how expensive it is
Author:  Insectoid [ Wed May 28, 2008 10:22 am ]
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Yes, Espcially when your hooby is being funded by your grandma's randomly given 20 dollar bills. LOTR is much cheeper than fantasy or 40k, though they are coming down in price
(new starter set for 40k is rumored to have neerly 100 minis + scenery + rulebook, including a space marine dreadnaught, for $75-ish)
Author:  nastynika [ Thu May 29, 2008 7:59 am ]
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hmm interesting i know the last time i checked a dreadnaught was like a $100
Author:  Insectoid [ Thu May 29, 2008 8:02 am ]
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That's back when they were metal. They're all plastic now. There's actually a new tank, the baneblade, which is the largest plastic model ever produced by GW, is only $90 CA! I was shocked when I first saw the price, I expected it to be in the range of $150! This thing's as big as 3 land raiders ($75 each) for only 15 dollars more! Possitively shocking.
Author:  nastynika [ Fri May 30, 2008 7:57 am ]
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is it as big as the monilith (i believe thats how u spell it it is that huge pyramid thing lol)
Author:  Insectoid [ Fri May 30, 2008 11:31 am ]
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Er, a monolith might be able to fit inside it.

Huge, look on the website, it's there somewhere

ca.games-workshop.com (url doesn't work for this link)
Author:  nastynika [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:00 am ]
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wow me thinks i am going to have to get one of those
Author:  MrAndrews [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:23 pm ]
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I havn't actually ever played warhammer, for a few reasons. First, it is too expensive . . . and i am semi-permanently broke. Secondly, i suck at painting. Thirdly, i could never find anyone to play against, so there was no point. I did play Mechwarrior for a while though . . .
Author:  Insectoid [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:06 pm ]
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I'd like a baneblade as well, but I need money for:

-Gamesday (GW event) (unknown amount)
-Tau army box ($250 CAN, $130-ish US)
-5th edition rulebook ($70 CAN)
Author:  btiffin [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:37 pm ]
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I may get a chance to play next Sunday. Now that I've posted that info, I've probably jinxed it. Missed CanGames on the May 24 weekend. Suckage.

Cheers
Author:  Insectoid [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:53 pm ]
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Ah! welcome back to your thread, btiffin!
Sunday? Where? Oh hey, someone gave me karma! and...negative karma...oh, that's too bad...
Author:  nastynika [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:58 am ]
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thank god i have a job so i can afford it
Author:  Insectoid [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:10 am ]
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You lucky son of a...

I could have a job, but a combination of laziness and not having a job results in me not having a job!

lol (really, laughing out loud). It happens to be 'healthy active living day' at my school, at pathetic attempt by the board to make money by forcing kids to go on hugely expensive trips under cover of saying it's 'to help combat child obesity'. I didn't sign up for anything, so me and my friend sort of...started typing things on this website called 'compsci' (computer science canada) and the teacher sort of...forgot about us...and turned off the light and locked the door...and...didn't see the glaring light of the computer monitors...

I just farted...
Author:  nastynika [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:05 am ]
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.......ok
so wut school do u go to?
Author:  Insectoid [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:00 am ]
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Me? Centre Wellington High, in fergus (north of guelph). lamest school ever. Well, not really. We did get 3-4 days off due to bomb/gun threats.
Author:  nastynika [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:59 am ]
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wow my school has had so many they dont take them serious anymore
Author:  Insectoid [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:21 am ]
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Well, good job, you've just taken away the one thing that made my school special. Well, not really...I guess the one special thing is that the building's brand-new (4 years-ish old?) and has a super high-tech lan of...well lets see...

-library
-compsci room
-media room
-fish bowl (our name for one of the labs)
-communications tech room
-another room somewhere...

so that's...6 rooms, each with 26+ computers, plus 5-6 computers per office (don't know how many of those there are...) as well as 1-2 computers in every other room.

That adds up to...a lot..

wow, that was off-topic...
Author:  nastynika [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:50 am ]
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hmm well my cousins seems to have taken a liking to Necromancers and Tau
Author:  Insectoid [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:57 am ]
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The new undead (or necromancers, though they are only a single unit in the army) are freakin sweet, I can't argue that, and as tau are my 40k army, well, I have to like them as well!
Author:  nastynika [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:59 am ]
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yea they r both pretty cool
Author:  Insectoid [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:01 am ]
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Seems I'm chasing you all over the forum today! Now, just to keep this 'I'm going to post less than 5 minutes after your last post' going, lizardmen are cool too!
Author:  nastynika [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:21 am ]
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i think i like Necreomancers better
Author:  Insectoid [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:25 am ]
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Wow...that was a long 5 minutes...and there is no 'necromancer' army, it's undead, led by vampires with necromancer leutenants.
Author:  nastynika [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:38 am ]
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right right sorry when me and my cuz play we just say necros so its stuck in my head
Author:  Insectoid [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:50 am ]
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Right. Necro's are actually a 40k army (actually, the're necrons, but who cares?). They are undead...robots, really.
Author:  nastynika [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:02 am ]
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yea we play 40k quit often
Author:  Aziz [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:03 am ]
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insectoid, your story either makes me distguisted or makes me want to be your friend, I can't decide which yet.

I got into some 40K a while ago, back before 'nids were popular (3rd edition). Then I stopped - no time or money - and I had a bunch of free time at school between classes and waiting for my girlfriend at the begining of the year that I decided I'd take it up again. So I went out and bought another 'nids box set (I already had a 3rd edition one, plus a biovore and zoanthrope). This one came with some more warriors and frikken sweet plastic Carnifex. Then i bought a new hive Tyrant and some paint.

Gave him wings by buying a pack of gargoyles and combining their wings together to give him measly but acceptable ones.

I've played a couple of games, and I was going to GW 2-3 times a week to paint, but I ended up getting a tutoring job and that took up all my free daytime hours. I have my tyrant half painted and haven't touched it since October.

Anyone in the Windsor/Chatham area up for some 40K action? I'd be willing to do some travel if it means some gaming. I've got nearly 2000 points, all fully built (but none painted) and a (printed) rulebook, and tiny ass dice, so I've got all the supplies.

Anyways, I've got a page posted with some new models I've done:

http://www.geocities.com/greaterhivemind/nidconversions.html

The one thing about these hobbies is you need time and money, which I am tight on. I've got a summer job making $380 a week, which may seem pretty damn sick to you guys. But I have to pay nearly $100 in gas each week, I had a $275 coop fee, >$300 anniversary present, $40/mo phone bill, $3000 I owe my grandma for paying my car insurance, and $250 car repairs. That's so far. I spend about $40 a week on food and entertainment stuff, and camping this summer is going to cost me at least $100. And father's day...$40....etc etc

Thanks for listening to my rant. Basically, if you have a good job, and no girlfriend, time and money are at your disposal. But don't get me wrong, 40K miniatures don't buy you GPS systems on your anniversary Smile
Author:  Insectoid [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:14 am ]
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My story? What?
Author:  btiffin [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:21 am ]
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Dark Elves rule; and Malekith will take over the Old World soon. Smile
Umm, assuming he can keep his hands of his mother. (creepy sub plot that one) Embarassed

I'm a fan of the 40K stormtroopers and IG Cadians. Don't have an army of any size to speak of, but the look really tickled my fancy. My Dark Eldar force was donated to the Club in the basement of Fandom II in Ottawa (and now years later, are pretty much back to being bits and pieces - sharp and pointy bits and pieces, in the Dark Eldar tradition).

Anyone in Ottawa; the club I started a long time ago has re-emerged and is run by some very competent gamers. Every Sunday in the basement of Fandom. Once you get to know Randy and Chris, there are very open to having games played just about anytime in their basement space. We have built up quite a nice terrain set (but you'll need to know one the the club members with keys to the cabinets to access a lot of the nicer set pieces and onsite club armies). Fandom is not a Warhammer only place, but it is well represented. Back in the day, I tried to make it a club that allowed people to play without having their own armies. I think that tradition is being continued; many members bring extra figs on game days and there are many tables worth of terrain at hand; plus I and then others, donated a fair whackload of rule books.

Cheers, err, I mean Waaagh!
Author:  Aziz [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:21 am ]
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insectoid @ Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:10 am wrote:
You lucky son of a...

I could have a job, but a combination of laziness and not having a job results in me not having a job!

lol (really, laughing out loud). It happens to be 'healthy active living day' at my school, at pathetic attempt by the board to make money by forcing kids to go on hugely expensive trips under cover of saying it's 'to help combat child obesity'. I didn't sign up for anything, so me and my friend sort of...started typing things on this website called 'compsci' (computer science canada) and the teacher sort of...forgot about us...and turned off the light and locked the door...and...didn't see the glaring light of the computer monitors...

I just farted...
Author:  Insectoid [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:25 am ]
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Ah, that...Right...I was pretty gassy that day. It made me laugh...

Oh, I dearly hope you want to be my friend instead of being disgusted! Yeah right...
Author:  btiffin [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:33 am ]
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For those players in Ottawa; I just tracked down the club website. (Not hard; google fandom II warhammer club)

http://www.centretown.ca/ Great bunch of guys with a great mix of friendly and competitive play.

Cheers
Author:  Insectoid [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:12 am ]
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Actually, you can get a list of all registered clubs from the community section of the website.
Author:  Aziz [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:45 pm ]
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No. I'm not against it, I just don't have time to commit myself to a tournament with scheduled dates etc. That and my army is fully painted, let alone flocked/based.

Doesn't mean I don't like to play though =/ I think a good home tourny would do me good. Too bad its hard to find folks around here.
Author:  Aziz [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:48 pm ]
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We're tipping compsci's ads XD. I just had a google ad for "Minature war game figuries" which is understandable, but "Sexy car models" and a link to www.tuninglinx.com just doesn't make sense ._.
Author:  Insectoid [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:38 am ]
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Who doesn't base their minis? Mine never go on display until they're standing on proper (looking) grass. Or mud.

Anyway, I just found out that the box I was going to buy in the states, thereby saving $100, is no longer sold over there. So I'm confined to canadian prices now... You know, I was going to buy some forge world stuff with the money I saved buying that box in the states? But now I can't.
Author:  Aziz [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:46 am ]
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People who haven't yet painted their models Smile
Author:  Insectoid [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:03 am ]
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But you did say that your army is fully painted, though I now assume that was a typo.
Author:  nastynika [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:14 am ]
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its too bad u guys r not around here my cousin had a huge tourny at his house this weekend soo much fun i came in 3rd out of 22 but i tell u some of these guys they live and breathe 40k and invest alot of money into dear god they had alot of stuff
Author:  Aziz [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:34 am ]
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I imagine so. Some people are so badass hardcore about it.

Where's "around here" anyways?
Author:  nastynika [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:41 am ]
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London ontario
Author:  Aziz [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:10 am ]
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Closer to me than anyone else (Leamigton/Windsor)
Author:  Insectoid [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:10 am ]
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22 people? Sounds SO much better than the GW ones (and they charge money for it). Was food and drink included in your tourney?
Author:  nastynika [ Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:28 am ]
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yea there was pop and snacks it was pretty fun
Author:  Insectoid [ Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:02 pm ]
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*sigh* It's too bad I'm the only serious gamer in my area...

Anyone near fergus, ontario?
Author:  btiffin [ Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:18 pm ]
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insectoid @ Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:02 pm wrote:
*sigh* It's too bad I'm the only serious gamer in my area...

Anyone near fergus, ontario?


I'd bet you'd be surprised. I was in a small town outside of Ottawa for a while (Richmond - population 1 or 2 thousand). About a week before I moved back to the city I bumped into a neighbour from 4 or 5 houses down the street at a game - why we could have been playing at night the whole time (and both getting in trouble with our spouses - it would have been sweet). Smile

Keep your eyes open, maybe post a note at your local/closest hobby shop.

Cheers
Edit; typo
Author:  Insectoid [ Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:20 pm ]
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Er, the closest hobby store is 45 minutes away, in oakville. The next closest is in mississauga. There are people who play, but they have mostly unpainted armies
Author:  btiffin [ Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:23 pm ]
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I'd still risk putting up an ad, or asking at the stores just in case. In my case, the neighbour was 4 houses away, and a good player to boot.

Cheers
Author:  Insectoid [ Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:44 pm ]
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I did try to run a club at my school; there was 1 person who showed regularly. he had a necron army, which was quite useless because at the time I was LOTR-restricted. There was one guy with like, 4 large cases of tau, but he only showed up once.
Author:  nastynika [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:07 am ]
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i feel sorry for u insectoid i am blessed with alot of people around this area that play it
Author:  Insectoid [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:26 pm ]
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I guess I'm lucky that I live only a hour away from every annual event GW does in canada, so I can attend them all! I guess I'm also lucky that my dad is willing to drive me every year...Until next year when I have my licence!
Author:  Aziz [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:32 am ]
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I wish I had some more time to get my Tyrant painted. I should post some pictures of what he looks like now.
Author:  Insectoid [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:47 am ]
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I feel the same way...sort of...

I spend so much time on this website/turing now that I rarely put time away for my minis. I've got half a fir warrior squad, some limited edition minis, some random LOTR guys and most of the Battle of Five Armies box.
Author:  Aziz [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:58 am ]
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I'm up at 6:30 to go to work for 8:00, work until 4:45. I get home (my girlfriends, actually) at about 5:30 and we eat and usually either drive into town to do some stuff, or play on the computers untill about 8ish. Then we watch some TV (every night it's 2 episodes of One Tree Hill - and once that's done it'll be Desperate Housewives *sigh* it could be worse). I usually leave about 9:45 and get to bed by 10:30 (more likely 11 =/ I need my sleep and I'm not happy).

Spare time is filled with video games Razz That's about an hour a night, and some hours on the weekends. I also do some other things like install Linux, break and fix my computer, etc. Too bad warhammer and life aren't compatible.
Author:  nastynika [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:02 am ]
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i have weekends off Very Happy so i have plenty of time
Author:  Aziz [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:43 am ]
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So do I have the weekends off - and so does my girlfriend (read: wife without the wedding) usually.
Author:  nastynika [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:46 am ]
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ic ic my girlfriend falls under the catogory of weekend to but she knows i need some time for my minis
Author:  Aziz [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:08 am ]
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I have too many hobbies. That's the problem. Video games (and about 5 of those), 40K, Linux, programming, etc etc.
Author:  Insectoid [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:08 am ]
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Quote:

my girlfriends, actually


You have more than one?!?!

Typo, right?

I, uh, I have every day off...I don't exactly have a job...I think I mentioned that...
Author:  Aziz [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:12 am ]
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Yeah, I missed the apostrophe. While I would love having everyday off, I get paid $400 a week nearly this summer, and I'm still broke =/ so that wouldn't work.
Author:  Insectoid [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:17 am ]
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Wow, your girlfirend's expensive!
Author:  Aziz [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:40 am ]
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As I said before, I've got car/gas bills to pay and I owe my grandma money. There's also food, etc.

But yes. She is expensive.
Author:  Insectoid [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:26 am ]
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You owe money to your grandma?
please excue me while I laugh.

...



Laughing done.

Now, how did you happen to owe money to your grandma?


sorry about the laughing...
Author:  Aziz [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:36 pm ]
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My mom paid $1600 of my insurance but needed the other $3000 and didn't have it at the time so got it from my grandma, which I have to pay her back now =/ Don't laugh my grandma's great.
Author:  nastynika [ Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:04 am ]
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see wuts happens when i leave it goes from 40k to grandmas......... weird anyway in two weeks my cuzin is planing on having another tourny by the sounds of it
Author:  btiffin [ Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:25 pm ]
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Anyone care about 4th ed D&D?
Author:  Insectoid [ Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:01 pm ]
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Nope. Completely against every form of D&D. I heard one of the co-founders died though.
Author:  Zeroth [ Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:01 pm ]
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I care. I just started playing D&D for the first time. I'm having a lot of fun. I got into the numbers and stuff, and take a look at what I found: A formula for multiple dice probabilities!

I've used it to make a few snippets of python code for calculating the odds vs specific ACs, DCs, etc. I'm pondering making a web-based dice rolling app using that formula... should I do it?

Insectoid, why are you against D&D?
Author:  Insectoid [ Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:56 am ]
Post subject:  RE:Warhammer; completely off topic.
It is the epitome of evil. In other words, I think it's lame and...lame.

We have dice formulas for Warhammer as well, we call it 'Mathhammer'.
Author:  Aziz [ Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:56 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Warhammer; completely off topic.
Why is D&D so evil?

Oh, and I did make a dice-roller program in Java last summer. When Hormagaunts come in broods of 32, who get 3 attacks on the charge, thats 96 dice you have to roll Wink
Author:  Vermette [ Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RE:Warhammer; completely off topic.
btiffin @ July 12th 2008, 14:25 wrote:
Anyone care about 4th ed D&D?


I just got invited into a 4e playtest group so.... yes? Don't know how I feel about new casting system.
Author:  DemonWasp [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:36 am ]
Post subject:  RE:Warhammer; completely off topic.
I play, but only in the theoretical sense. My pitiful collection of Tau isn't up to any kind of tournament, so I mostly just play with my friends, and even that's gotten rare with busier schedules.

At this point, it's mostly my girlfriend and I painting models because they look cool, not because they're going to see much use.

To be honest, the rules system for 40k is mostly garbage. Anything based on exception-handling to emulate a real rules system is broken, IMO. It also has some problems dealing with the (Chaos) Space Marines - specifically that they are mostly invincible; anyone not playing (C)SM is on a one-way train to DefeatTown.

edit re DnD: I play DnD, and I'd care more about 4th edition if a quick perusal of the rules hadn't led me to believe it's been dumbed down. The rules system is starting to look a lot more like a ripoff of the games that were ripping off DnD (WoW and its ilk). Spellcasters can now cast their attacks as an actions so...they're exactly like fighters...hmm. There are only five alignments (LG, G, Unaligned = neutral, E, CE), since apparently having two axes was too hard *snicker*...practical upshot here is that you can't have Robin Hood (CG), Hitler (LE), a selfish rogue (CN) or guards (LN) in the system. I didn't even get into looking at the class / multiclass / races, though I'd heard that the selection there had been chopped down, too.

For reference, I'm currently running two 3.5e DnD games; one is face-to-face with my family, while the other is play-by-forum with my friends.
Author:  Aziz [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:23 am ]
Post subject:  RE:Warhammer; completely off topic.
You can have small scrimages in 40k with 500pt armies even. It gets a lot funner around 1k points, though, where you can include tanks etc.
Author:  Insectoid [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:53 am ]
Post subject:  RE:Warhammer; completely off topic.
@Demonwasp: Tau Forever! Like you, my Tau army is in its infancy, comprising of a battleforce, extra fire warrior unit, and ethereal.

@Aziz- No, it gets fun at around 5000 points, where you can include flyers/superheavies/Titans/Superheavy Flying Titans etc.

Note: 5th edition came out last saturday (July 12)
Author:  Zeroth [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Warhammer; completely off topic.
@DemonWasp. They removed most of the alignments, not because they're too hard, but because the players misapplied them. And except in only a few situations, alignment has no bearing on gameplay, only on roleplay. One of the designer's wants to move to a system with NO alignments... merely perception of your actions by others, and the character's own beliefs. This leads to less "Munchkin" like characters, justifying their actions with Chaotic Neutral. Neutral now means you don't neccessarily hurt someone unless you need to, but you have to have a good reason/justification. A player cannot play Neutral and kill all the npcs, with that as a justification. In short, players were abusing the alignment system.

And in addition about the spellcasters... from a limited gameplay standpoint, they are actions... and how are spells any different from a fighter swinging a sword? They are both techniques, refined by skill and learning, one just requires an arcane connection and memory, instead of body memory and a martial connection? From a wider gameplay standpoint, they are very different. No non-magically enhanced warrior of the sword could turn a section of air into solid ice, could they? They made the casting same as the fighters and others, for standardization and an easier learning curve. Imagine in a video game, if using a mage class required a totally different, limited interface than any of the other characters. Yet, thats what 3.5e was like.
Author:  Aziz [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:19 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Warhammer; completely off topic.
Of course, you can make any house rules you want in your own little group, right?

D&D sounds like it would be fun - however I'm afraid I can only push my girlfriends geek tolerance so far Razz. And like I said, you need a good group of friends.

Also, you know how long a 5000pt battle would take? Each turn would be like an hour XD
Author:  DemonWasp [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:09 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Warhammer; completely off topic.
@Zeroth: If players are abusing the alignment system, then the DM should step in and change it on them. Your chaotic neutral character is killing all the NPCs? Well, that's not CN, that CE...so your character is CE now. As far as I'm concerned, alignment isn't a statistic, it's a descriptor - it's supposed to reflect the character, not define them.

I'm imagining it more along these lines: consider Starcraft for a second. The Terran require a much different strategy than the Zerg, and use much different units and tactics...that's what 3.5e is like. In 4e, you're all Terran. Makes for a faster learning curve (what WoC was aiming for), but fails at having an interesting system. Clearly the system wasn't built to appease fans of the previous editions; I like having a rules system that treats magic as being different from non-magic. Biggest gripe here would be that magic is no longer limited at all - there's limited strategy to playing a caster, no need to conserve your spells - just use the best one each round until the enemy is dead, just as there's limited strategy required to play a fighter.

I'll take another look at the rules set, but my hopes aren't too high. Both of my games will be sticking with mostly 3.5e, though I may cut in something out of 4e (some of the HP/death mechanics sounded interesting).

@Aziz: You could, of course, just join an online group. There are existing groups (though the only one I kept a pointer to seems to have vanished), or you can just use a service like http://www.forumer.com/ to make your own forum and host a game. To recruit players / DMs you could try on rec.games.frp.dnd.
Author:  Zeroth [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Warhammer; completely off topic.
@DemonWasp: Have you actually played any 4e? I have now officially played the same number of sessions of 3.5e and 4e, and I have found 4e to be way more tactical, at just the first level. You can't run in swinging away. Your character will die if they do it. Now, a party of characters have to work as a TEAM. Which is great in my view. The paladins, clerics, and warlords have fun and useful roles, instead of having the cleric heal, heal, heal... can I hit an enemy, "NO!", heal heal... and so on. I'm all for differing opinions. I, myself, find it a lot easier to work with, use, and have fun with, than 3.5e ever did for me.

As well, your analogy doesn't work. You have similar build progressions in Starcraft(that fits the ideas of powers, and levelling up), however, each class/race plays very differently. There are similarities, relations, etc, just as there is in Starcraft. However, those similarities work to make it easier to use a different faction/class. Read the rules, and look at them in the context of a team effort. Pairing a warlord and a rogue is extremely deadly, because the warlord can push his allies around, and the rogue uses this to get Sneak Attack damage.

[apologies for the off-topic discussion. I'll continue to post D&D stuff on the proper thread from now on]

Hmm, I do have to admit a lot of the warhammer ideas do intrigue me. What do you guys most enjoy about it?
Author:  Aziz [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:43 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Warhammer; completely off topic.
I prefer the gaming aspect of it, rather than painting. Building is pretty fun, but I'm no good at painting at it seems so tedious to me =\
Author:  Zeroth [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Warhammer; completely off topic.
Yeah, the painting's not my thing, either. Just tedious, and well, pointless to me.
Author:  btiffin [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Warhammer; completely off topic.
@Zeroth
Quote:
Hmm, I do have to admit a lot of the warhammer ideas do intrigue me. What do you guys most enjoy about it?

Everything.

The cheesy renaming of fantasy staples; the sense of doom; the figs; the art; the painting; the stories, everything. Sure there are holes in the rules, GW's target audience being the 12-18 year old male. WFRP was not written with that target audience in mind. More adult without being "adult" if you know what I mean. WFB lets you pick up entire fists full of dice as ranks of troopers go at it. And with a huge range of "6", well the odds and game theory are wayyy scientific.

I'll admit to being a huge fan of running WFRP games and also the fun of set-piecing an army of figs, just to look at. Diorama's built to be looked at and then taken down to be build again.

If you really really want to DM and awesome D&D experience, look into buying some Empire figurines and the new line of fantasy terrain. The figs in medieval dress, the medieval houses, huts and castles. Really does add to the immersive suspension of disbelief. Of course your play table can cost you into the 1'000s but hey it's a game. What's more important than game? Rent? Food? Programming? bah! Smile

Cheers
Brian
Author:  DemonWasp [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:04 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Warhammer; completely off topic.
@btiffin: Clearly you approach DnD differently than I do, and you prefer WFB...enjoy! I'm just noting that it doesn't have to always be played the way you've seen it played.

I did have a friend who wanted to start up a game of WFB, but his attention span / interest / misunderstanding of the work required ended up killing that before it ever got anywhere.

Also, I do have miniatures, and I do build settings, though generally I don't spend much money on it. Instead, my general MO is to build a 3d computer model of the scene, then ray-trace it. For example:

A cog the players started off with, and a hand-drawn-in-Photoshop wide-area map. I'm still working on my render skills, since I'm clearly not a terribly great hand at it. I may try to post some images of my painted minis.

@Aziz, Zeroth: The painting can be tedious (especially if you get stuck painting stupid basic troops...the only ones that look awesome and require a reasonable amount of painting are the Daemonettes), but it can also be really awesome, particularly when your cool idea actually works out. Most of my Tau look horrid because I'm a lousy painter, but every so often something comes out well...the XV25s are looking decent, as is the Crysis Suit; the Hammerhead needs some help, but should turn out alright.
Author:  Aziz [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:43 am ]
Post subject:  RE:Warhammer; completely off topic.
I'm liking the way my Hive Tyrant is turing out, and although you can't see the current paintjob on it, the modelling is sweet (for my work, at least): http://geocities.com/greaterhivemind/nidconversions.html.

I've got one "arm" fully completed on him, with a blackprimer, a red basecoat, 3 mixed layers, and a wash. Tough but looks seet.
Author:  btiffin [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:32 am ]
Post subject:  RE:Warhammer; completely off topic.
@DemomWasp

I would have loved playing with a DM with some artistic abilities. Great stuff.

Cheers

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