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Believe it? Or not? TIOBE List

Author:  btiffin [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:29 am ]
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TIOBE List of Languages Popularity Contest

I think they are close; if you only count "open" (as in not-secret) source. In the grand scheme of running banks, pipelines, hospitals, armies, bob loblaw; ... Java is not the number one, imho. Smile

Author:  Mackie [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:47 am ]
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Awww... Ruby went from 9 to 10. Sad

Author:  [Gandalf] [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:17 am ]
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Mackie @ 2008-04-18, 12:47 am wrote:
Awww... Ruby went from 9 to 10. Sad

Err... Other way around. Smile

I was surprised mostly by the apparent popularity of D as well as the increase in the use of Visual Basic.

Author:  Mackie [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:18 am ]
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Oh man, how did I read that wrong. Well... I'm happy now. Very Happy

Author:  Vermette [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:27 am ]
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I would have thought Ada would be a little higher on the list...

Interesting also seeing Scheme ahead of COBOL... All those students and academicians must talk more than all those maintenance programmers out there Razz

Author:  md [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:31 pm ]
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Most of the COBOL code in existence is running in closed-source environments that are so far from public view that many people forget that they exist (if people knew it'd be replaced Wink ). Same with FORTRAN and possibly Ada.

I'm shocked that Pascal appears nowhere on the list.

Author:  wtd [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:46 pm ]
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Pascal as far as most are concerned is synonymous with Delphi, and that's by and large closed source. Sad.

Author:  btiffin [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:37 pm ]
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What caught my eye; D, Ch, REBOL (woohoo 51 to 100, woohoo!), well, and that Java was top. Disagree. Disbelieve.

BUT; I will say that this is probably a really good list for picking a path with pay.

Cheers

Author:  r691175002 [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:00 pm ]
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Judging from how they claim they rank languages, I would put little weight on their findings.

That being said, Java is my favorite language followed by C++ so I have little reason to complain. I will probably pick up D some time once its code base matures a bit.

Author:  McKenzie [ Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:41 am ]
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md @ Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:31 pm wrote:
I'm shocked that Pascal appears nowhere on the list.

It's there, you just missed it. It jumped from 21 to 15. The amount of the jump surprised me.

Author:  wtd [ Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:37 am ]
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r691175002 @ Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:00 am wrote:
Judging from how they claim they rank languages, I would put little weight on their findings.

That being said, Java is my favorite language followed by C++ so I have little reason to complain. I will probably pick up D some time once its code base matures a bit.


D is quite mature at this point.

Author:  btiffin [ Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:13 pm ]
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wtd @ Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:37 am wrote:
D is quite mature at this point.


I'm just adding a mee too. I like D, and when you can be involved in talking to the designer, just adds sweet.

Anyone that wants to, check out the digitalmars.com site and follow the newsgroup threads. Walter chats quite a bit, and seems to care about user input. And this from a fairly large scale user base. Walter Bright. Good guy. Good programming environment.

Cheers

Author:  michaelp [ Tue May 20, 2008 8:03 pm ]
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I'm surprised that Visual Basic is so high, considering it only runs on Windows and that support is going to get dropped for it very soon. It's 3rd!

Author:  rdrake [ Tue May 20, 2008 8:32 pm ]
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michaelp @ Tue May 20, 2008 8:03 pm wrote:
I'm surprised that Visual Basic is so high, considering it only runs on Windows and that support is going to get dropped for it very soon. It's 3rd!
Visual Basic made it so quick and easy to write applications that a ton of them were developed. The fact that it runs on Windows only doesn't matter, as it's mostly used for enterprise applications -- nobody really cares about OSX or Linux there.

Are you sure support is going to get dropped for it very soon? Do you mean VB6? I see VB.NET living on for a long time still despite the fact that it's stupified C# syntax now with a better platform.

Disclaimer: I am in no way encouraging the use of VB6 by anybody. If you suddenly feel the urge to write anything in VB6, please visit your nearest therapist as they will be able to assist you more than I can.

Author:  apomb [ Wed May 21, 2008 12:43 am ]
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rdrake @ Tue May 20, 2008 8:32 pm wrote:
michaelp @ Tue May 20, 2008 8:03 pm wrote:
I'm surprised that Visual Basic is so high, considering it only runs on Windows and that support is going to get dropped for it very soon. It's 3rd!
Visual Basic made it so quick and easy to write applications that a ton of them were developed. The fact that it runs on Windows only doesn't matter, as it's mostly used for enterprise applications -- nobody really cares about OSX or Linux there.

Are you sure support is going to get dropped for it very soon? Do you mean VB6? I see VB.NET living on for a long time still despite the fact that it's stupified C# syntax now with a better platform.

Disclaimer: I am in no way encouraging the use of VB6 by anybody. If you suddenly feel the urge to write anything in VB6, please visit your nearest therapist as they will be able to assist you more than I can.


Did you just say that no one in the enterprise world cares about linux/OSX???

I will await your reply, because im in disbelief.

Author:  rdrake [ Wed May 21, 2008 11:58 am ]
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apomb @ Wed May 21, 2008 12:43 am wrote:
Did you just say that no one in the enterprise world cares about linux/OSX???

I will await your reply, because im in disbelief.
In terms of the desktop, yes. The server side is usually a whole different story, however.

Author:  michaelp [ Wed May 21, 2008 3:46 pm ]
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rdrake @ Tue May 20, 2008 8:32 pm wrote:
michaelp @ Tue May 20, 2008 8:03 pm wrote:
I'm surprised that Visual Basic is so high, considering it only runs on Windows and that support is going to get dropped for it very soon. It's 3rd!
Visual Basic made it so quick and easy to write applications that a ton of them were developed. The fact that it runs on Windows only doesn't matter, as it's mostly used for enterprise applications -- nobody really cares about OSX or Linux there.

Are you sure support is going to get dropped for it very soon? Do you mean VB6? I see VB.NET living on for a long time still despite the fact that it's stupified C# syntax now with a better platform.

Disclaimer: I am in no way encouraging the use of VB6 by anybody. If you suddenly feel the urge to write anything in VB6, please visit your nearest therapist as they will be able to assist you more than I can.


Yeah, I mean VB 6.

Author:  Sean [ Wed May 21, 2008 3:57 pm ]
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REX language is not even listed there?

Odd.

I know for a fact that major companies still use REX, my fathers work does.


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